Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

2010-08-13 Thread Nikos Alexandris
Nikos:
...
  How about examining the potential to adapt Open Source Bussiness
  models in
  (e-)books bussinesses? I do not mean necessarily cost-free, but
  accessible e-
  books (=reader-friendly pricing policy).

Helena M:
 you can always publish with  lulu.com (I bought the MapWindows
 hardcopy book there)
 and you preserve your copyright and set your price and people can get
 your book as e-book and hardcopy.
 You just need to do your own marketing. Thousands of books have been
 published
 through them - lot of textbooks,

Thank you Helena. Looks like a good alternative.
Kind regards, Nikos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

2010-08-12 Thread Nikos Alexandris
Ian:

  don't sell many copies because they are expensive. :-( This is
  especially annoying as the authors give them the text for free.

The problem is more or less known (I have experiences about (local) bookstores 
and their struggle with book in general and technical/specialised books 
specifically). But things change rapidly.

G. Allegri:
 
  So why should we continue to fill this vicious circle? I hope one day
  a more ethical and fair circuit will be set up by the scientific
  community

Ian:
 
 When my boss scores my performance based on open texts instead of books :-)
 
:-)

How about examining the potential to adapt Open Source Bussiness models in 
(e-)books bussinesses? I do not mean necessarily cost-free, but accessible e-
books (=reader-friendly pricing policy).

Cheers, Nikos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

2010-08-12 Thread Helena Mitasova



On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Nikos Alexandris wrote:


Ian:


don't sell many copies because they are expensive. :-( This is
especially annoying as the authors give them the text for free.


The problem is more or less known (I have experiences about (local)  
bookstores
and their struggle with book in general and technical/specialised  
books

specifically). But things change rapidly.

G. Allegri:

So why should we continue to fill this vicious circle? I hope one  
day

a more ethical and fair circuit will be set up by the scientific
community


Ian:

When my boss scores my performance based on open texts instead of  
books :-)


:-)

How about examining the potential to adapt Open Source Bussiness  
models in
(e-)books bussinesses? I do not mean necessarily cost-free, but  
accessible e-

books (=reader-friendly pricing policy).


you can always publish with  lulu.com (I bought the MapWindows  
hardcopy book there)
and you preserve your copyright and set your price and people can get  
your book as e-book and hardcopy.
You just need to do your own marketing. Thousands of books have been  
published

through them - lot of textbooks,

Helena





Cheers, Nikos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

2010-08-09 Thread Nikos Alexandris
G. Allegri wrote:
 Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in
 GIS series
 http://www.springer.com/series/7712?cm_mmc=other-_-Enews-_-PSE12813_V1-_-77
 12

Hi!

I have bought last year the (me thinks it is) 1st book of the series [1]. I 
liked the book and I would recommend it. Yet, one thing I want to note: in my 
humble opinion, it was/is very expensive [for my (still-)student pocket!]: 
100.-EU for 300 pages.

It seems (to me) the book is targeting (only) open source advocates, people 
who don't have problem spending such amounts and/or libraries.

Regards, Nikos
---

[1] Hall, B and Leahy, MJ, Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling 
(Advances in Geographic Information Science), Springer, 2008. 
[ISBN:978-3-540-74830-4]
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

2010-08-09 Thread Ian Turton
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Nikos Alexandris
nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de wrote:
 G. Allegri wrote:
 Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in
 GIS series
 http://www.springer.com/series/7712?cm_mmc=other-_-Enews-_-PSE12813_V1-_-77
 12

 Hi!

 I have bought last year the (me thinks it is) 1st book of the series [1]. I
 liked the book and I would recommend it. Yet, one thing I want to note: in my
 humble opinion, it was/is very expensive [for my (still-)student pocket!]:
100.-EU for 300 pages.

 It seems (to me) the book is targeting (only) open source advocates, people
 who don't have problem spending such amounts and/or libraries.


It is the perennial problem of academic publications, the publisher
makes them expensive because they won't sell many copies and they
don't sell many copies because they are expensive. :-( This is
especially annoying as the authors give them the text for free.

Ian
-- 
Ian Turton
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

2010-08-09 Thread G. Allegri
 don't sell many copies because they are expensive. :-( This is
 especially annoying as the authors give them the text for free.

So why should we continue to fill this vicious circle? I hope one day
a more ethical and fair circuit will be set up by the scientific
community
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

2010-08-09 Thread Ian Turton
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:09 AM, G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com wrote:
 don't sell many copies because they are expensive. :-( This is
 especially annoying as the authors give them the text for free.

 So why should we continue to fill this vicious circle? I hope one day
 a more ethical and fair circuit will be set up by the scientific
 community

When my boss scores my performance based on open texts instead of books :-)

Ian
-- 
Ian Turton
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

2010-07-29 Thread G. Allegri
Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in
GIS series
http://www.springer.com/series/7712?cm_mmc=other-_-Enews-_-PSE12813_V1-_-7712

giovanni
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