Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Public money, public code

[Angelos Tzotsos via Discuss]

Hi Stefan,

OSGeo has now signed the open letter.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Best regards,
Angelos

On 10/4/21 10:51 PM, Stefan Blumentrath via Discuss wrote:

Hi,

Not sure how well known the "Public money, public code" campaign of the Free 
Software Foundation Europe (fsfe) is within the circles of OSGeo:
https://publiccode.eu/

FOSSGIS e.V. and GFOSS signed it and I have probably overlooked other OSGeo 
related organizations. But maybe it is relevant for OSGeo itself as well?
Though it has a European focus, the information material there is very good can 
be useful also in other parts of the world, when arguments for using Free and 
Open Source Software in or for public authorities are needed...

Check it out.

Cheers
Stefan



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[OSGeo-Discuss] Public money, public code

[Stefan Blumentrath via Discuss]

Hi,

Not sure how well known the "Public money, public code" campaign of the Free 
Software Foundation Europe (fsfe) is within the circles of OSGeo:
https://publiccode.eu/

FOSSGIS e.V. and GFOSS signed it and I have probably overlooked other OSGeo 
related organizations. But maybe it is relevant for OSGeo itself as well?
Though it has a European focus, the information material there is very good can 
be useful also in other parts of the world, when arguments for using Free and 
Open Source Software in or for public authorities are needed...

Check it out.

Cheers
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Public money, public code campaign

[Cameron Shorter]

I believe the test should be:

Is this a local issue? If so, it should be handled at a local level, by the
local chapter.

Is this a global issue? Something that is applicable to all local chapters,
and that most local chapters are likely to believe in?  If so, then the
glocal OSGeo should make a statement. A statement from a large global
organisation hold greater weight and has the potential for greater impact.
This will make lobbying at the local level more effective as it will help
locals can say "this is a global issue, you should be thinking about it in
our region too".

Based on that logic, I think OSGeo should sign.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 01:11, Jo Cook  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Do we think this is something OSGeo should sign globally, or that
> individual chapters should decide to sign or not, as appropriate? I'm
> all for OSGeo signing it, as it's bigger (obviously) and would
> hopefully have more of an impact, but I guess others may have a
> different opinion...
>
> Jo
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 2:43 PM Margherita Di Leo 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jody,
> >
> > thank you, just added to the agenda. Indeed I think this aims at being a
> global initiative rather than limited to Europe only. I have seen
> signatures from countries all over the world, as well as support from
> international organizations based outside Europe. I  think that OSGeo
> should support this campaign to remark that supports the principle, as in
> this phase no political action is entailed. Local chapters as well should
> sign and, if any, take further political actions when the times come. In
> fact I have forwarded this also to the Italian local chapter and I invite
> all the community to do the same to your own local chapters.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:01 PM Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> You are welcome to add it to the agenda to the the next board meeting
> (edit wiki page Board_Meeting_2019-07-29) , however we try and leave
> political influencing to local chapters - as it is more effective to have a
> local voice when talking to politicians. This looks like exactly the kind
> of initiative OSGeo Europe was formed to support :)
> >>
> >> Note despite the "eu" in the domain name the web page does not appear
> be limited to Europe. When signing it immediately asks which country you
> are from (no doubt to direct the support to the appropriate region).
> >> --
> >> Jody Garnett
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 05:21, Margherita Di Leo 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear members of the OSGeo community,
> >>>
> >>> I haven't seen this circulating already in our mailing list, if I just
> missed it, apologies.
> >>> This is to draw your attention to the following campaign:
> https://publiccode.eu/
> >>> I really would like to see OSGeo among the supporters of the open
> letter. Like-minded organizations like FOSSGIS, OpenStreetMap, etc have
> already signed it.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> --
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Public money, public code campaign

[Jo Cook]

Hi Maria et al,

That sounds eminently sensible to me. I guess it's already an agenda
item for the next board meeting so the rest of us can wait to see what
comes out of that.

All the best

Jo

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:14 PM María Arias de Reyna  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I think we can do both.
>
> I mean: OSGeo should sign it (from my perspective) because it is
> saying the same thing we say all the time: FLOSS is better :)
>
> And at the same time, we can use the European Chapter to talk to the
> FSF(E) if this is an european initiative to lobby and if we can join
> forces. Or what is the purpose of this (I guess they are not going to
> collect signatures and just wait for something to happen). Whatever
> the FSFE has in mind, we are probably interested in it.
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:11 PM Jo Cook  wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Do we think this is something OSGeo should sign globally, or that
> > individual chapters should decide to sign or not, as appropriate? I'm
> > all for OSGeo signing it, as it's bigger (obviously) and would
> > hopefully have more of an impact, but I guess others may have a
> > different opinion...
> >
> > Jo
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 2:43 PM Margherita Di Leo  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jody,
> > >
> > > thank you, just added to the agenda. Indeed I think this aims at being a 
> > > global initiative rather than limited to Europe only. I have seen 
> > > signatures from countries all over the world, as well as support from 
> > > international organizations based outside Europe. I  think that OSGeo 
> > > should support this campaign to remark that supports the principle, as in 
> > > this phase no political action is entailed. Local chapters as well should 
> > > sign and, if any, take further political actions when the times come. In 
> > > fact I have forwarded this also to the Italian local chapter and I invite 
> > > all the community to do the same to your own local chapters.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:01 PM Jody Garnett  
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> You are welcome to add it to the agenda to the the next board meeting 
> > >> (edit wiki page Board_Meeting_2019-07-29) , however we try and leave 
> > >> political influencing to local chapters - as it is more effective to 
> > >> have a local voice when talking to politicians. This looks like exactly 
> > >> the kind of initiative OSGeo Europe was formed to support :)
> > >>
> > >> Note despite the "eu" in the domain name the web page does not appear be 
> > >> limited to Europe. When signing it immediately asks which country you 
> > >> are from (no doubt to direct the support to the appropriate region).
> > >> --
> > >> Jody Garnett
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 05:21, Margherita Di Leo  
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear members of the OSGeo community,
> > >>>
> > >>> I haven't seen this circulating already in our mailing list, if I just 
> > >>> missed it, apologies.
> > >>> This is to draw your attention to the following campaign: 
> > >>> https://publiccode.eu/
> > >>> I really would like to see OSGeo among the supporters of the open 
> > >>> letter. Like-minded organizations like FOSSGIS, OpenStreetMap, etc have 
> > >>> already signed it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> Kind regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Margherita Di Leo
> > >>> ___
> > >>> Discuss mailing list
> > >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> > >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Public money, public code campaign

[María Arias de Reyna]

Hi,

I think we can do both.

I mean: OSGeo should sign it (from my perspective) because it is
saying the same thing we say all the time: FLOSS is better :)

And at the same time, we can use the European Chapter to talk to the
FSF(E) if this is an european initiative to lobby and if we can join
forces. Or what is the purpose of this (I guess they are not going to
collect signatures and just wait for something to happen). Whatever
the FSFE has in mind, we are probably interested in it.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:11 PM Jo Cook  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Do we think this is something OSGeo should sign globally, or that
> individual chapters should decide to sign or not, as appropriate? I'm
> all for OSGeo signing it, as it's bigger (obviously) and would
> hopefully have more of an impact, but I guess others may have a
> different opinion...
>
> Jo
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 2:43 PM Margherita Di Leo  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jody,
> >
> > thank you, just added to the agenda. Indeed I think this aims at being a 
> > global initiative rather than limited to Europe only. I have seen 
> > signatures from countries all over the world, as well as support from 
> > international organizations based outside Europe. I  think that OSGeo 
> > should support this campaign to remark that supports the principle, as in 
> > this phase no political action is entailed. Local chapters as well should 
> > sign and, if any, take further political actions when the times come. In 
> > fact I have forwarded this also to the Italian local chapter and I invite 
> > all the community to do the same to your own local chapters.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:01 PM Jody Garnett  wrote:
> >>
> >> You are welcome to add it to the agenda to the the next board meeting 
> >> (edit wiki page Board_Meeting_2019-07-29) , however we try and leave 
> >> political influencing to local chapters - as it is more effective to have 
> >> a local voice when talking to politicians. This looks like exactly the 
> >> kind of initiative OSGeo Europe was formed to support :)
> >>
> >> Note despite the "eu" in the domain name the web page does not appear be 
> >> limited to Europe. When signing it immediately asks which country you are 
> >> from (no doubt to direct the support to the appropriate region).
> >> --
> >> Jody Garnett
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 05:21, Margherita Di Leo  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear members of the OSGeo community,
> >>>
> >>> I haven't seen this circulating already in our mailing list, if I just 
> >>> missed it, apologies.
> >>> This is to draw your attention to the following campaign: 
> >>> https://publiccode.eu/
> >>> I really would like to see OSGeo among the supporters of the open letter. 
> >>> Like-minded organizations like FOSSGIS, OpenStreetMap, etc have already 
> >>> signed it.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Margherita Di Leo
> >>> ___
> >>> Discuss mailing list
> >>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Margherita Di Leo
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> > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Public money, public code campaign

[Jo Cook]

Hi All,

Do we think this is something OSGeo should sign globally, or that
individual chapters should decide to sign or not, as appropriate? I'm
all for OSGeo signing it, as it's bigger (obviously) and would
hopefully have more of an impact, but I guess others may have a
different opinion...

Jo

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 2:43 PM Margherita Di Leo  wrote:
>
> Hi Jody,
>
> thank you, just added to the agenda. Indeed I think this aims at being a 
> global initiative rather than limited to Europe only. I have seen signatures 
> from countries all over the world, as well as support from international 
> organizations based outside Europe. I  think that OSGeo should support this 
> campaign to remark that supports the principle, as in this phase no political 
> action is entailed. Local chapters as well should sign and, if any, take 
> further political actions when the times come. In fact I have forwarded this 
> also to the Italian local chapter and I invite all the community to do the 
> same to your own local chapters.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:01 PM Jody Garnett  wrote:
>>
>> You are welcome to add it to the agenda to the the next board meeting (edit 
>> wiki page Board_Meeting_2019-07-29) , however we try and leave political 
>> influencing to local chapters - as it is more effective to have a local 
>> voice when talking to politicians. This looks like exactly the kind of 
>> initiative OSGeo Europe was formed to support :)
>>
>> Note despite the "eu" in the domain name the web page does not appear be 
>> limited to Europe. When signing it immediately asks which country you are 
>> from (no doubt to direct the support to the appropriate region).
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 05:21, Margherita Di Leo  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear members of the OSGeo community,
>>>
>>> I haven't seen this circulating already in our mailing list, if I just 
>>> missed it, apologies.
>>> This is to draw your attention to the following campaign: 
>>> https://publiccode.eu/
>>> I really would like to see OSGeo among the supporters of the open letter. 
>>> Like-minded organizations like FOSSGIS, OpenStreetMap, etc have already 
>>> signed it.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Margherita Di Leo
>>> ___
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
>
>
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> Margherita Di Leo
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Public money, public code campaign

[Margherita Di Leo]

Hi Jody,

thank you, just added to the agenda. Indeed I think this aims at being a
global initiative rather than limited to Europe only. I have seen
signatures from countries all over the world, as well as support from
international organizations based outside Europe. I  think that OSGeo
should support this campaign to remark that supports the principle, as in
this phase no political action is entailed. Local chapters as well should
sign and, if any, take further political actions when the times come. In
fact I have forwarded this also to the Italian local chapter and I invite
all the community to do the same to your own local chapters.

Thanks

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:01 PM Jody Garnett  wrote:

> You are welcome to add it to the agenda to the the next board meeting
> (edit wiki page Board_Meeting_2019-07-29
> ) , however we try
> and leave political influencing to local chapters - as it is more effective
> to have a local voice when talking to politicians. This looks like exactly
> the kind of initiative OSGeo Europe was formed to support :)
>
> Note despite the "eu" in the domain name the web page does not appear be
> limited to Europe. When signing it immediately asks which country you are
> from (no doubt to direct the support to the appropriate region).
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 05:21, Margherita Di Leo 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear members of the OSGeo community,
>>
>> I haven't seen this circulating already in our mailing list, if I just
>> missed it, apologies.
>> This is to draw your attention to the following campaign:
>> https://publiccode.eu/
>> I really would like to see OSGeo among the supporters of the open letter.
>> Like-minded organizations like FOSSGIS, OpenStreetMap, etc have already
>> signed it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> --
>> Margherita Di Leo
>> ___
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>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Public money, public code campaign

[Jody Garnett]

You are welcome to add it to the agenda to the the next board meeting (edit
wiki page Board_Meeting_2019-07-29
) , however we try
and leave political influencing to local chapters - as it is more effective
to have a local voice when talking to politicians. This looks like exactly
the kind of initiative OSGeo Europe was formed to support :)

Note despite the "eu" in the domain name the web page does not appear be
limited to Europe. When signing it immediately asks which country you are
from (no doubt to direct the support to the appropriate region).
--
Jody Garnett


On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 05:21, Margherita Di Leo  wrote:

> Dear members of the OSGeo community,
>
> I haven't seen this circulating already in our mailing list, if I just
> missed it, apologies.
> This is to draw your attention to the following campaign:
> https://publiccode.eu/
> I really would like to see OSGeo among the supporters of the open letter.
> Like-minded organizations like FOSSGIS, OpenStreetMap, etc have already
> signed it.
>
> Thanks
> Kind regards,
>
> --
> Margherita Di Leo
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Public money, public code campaign

[Margherita Di Leo]

Dear members of the OSGeo community,

I haven't seen this circulating already in our mailing list, if I just
missed it, apologies.
This is to draw your attention to the following campaign:
https://publiccode.eu/
I really would like to see OSGeo among the supporters of the open letter.
Like-minded organizations like FOSSGIS, OpenStreetMap, etc have already
signed it.

Thanks
Kind regards,

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