[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Gilberto Camara

Dear all

[EMAIL PROTECTED] stated:
(...)
 In the past i've heard it suggested that really successful open source
 projects now need serious organisational backing. They can't be built
 by a network of partly-funded enthusiast contributors alone.
(...)
 If this is inevitable, why? Is innovation less possible outside the
 enterprise? Is this even a FOSS problem or a computing-in-the-broad 
 one?


As one of the list members who argued in favour of serious
organizational backing for OSS, let me throw my ideas on the issue:

(a) True innovation is extremely hard in any field. Companies and
governments worldwide aim at promoting and producing innovation,
but breakthroughs come slowly and the winners are always a
happy few.
(b) To have a software development that is at the same time
innovative and cooperative is even more difficult. Cooperation
requires shared conceptualizations. This is much easier to
achieve when the aim is to reproduce an existing design.
This is the case of OSGEO projects that aim to have an
open source version of OGC specifications.
(c) Many innovations are produced at academic institutions.
Most of those institutions have no incentive nor mission
to support open-source development projects. Taking these
innovations out of academia and giving them institutional
support (private or public) is a way to ensuring these
innovations are exposed to the market. Those with real value
will survive.
(d) For better or worse, the GIS arena is currently
OGC-driven. OGC has levelled the market, by producing a set
of common specifications, that both OS and proprietary systems
must adhere to. By nature, standards bodies tend to
stifle innovation. OGC has helped us make a lot of progress
on vector-based GIS and web services. By contrast, OGC has
reduced the motivation for innovation in issues such as
spatial analysis, raster-based GIS, semantics,
visualization, interfaces, and spatio-temporal models.
(e) Our current dilemma is that almost all FOSS4G products are
focused on OGC-compliance. This reduces the potential for
innovation and generates very similar products.

Thus, innovation in GIS is likely to come from outside
the OGC-compliance focus that pervades our community.
We need new interface paradigms, new ways of interacting
in with mobile devices, new ways of modelling environmental
change. Someone, somewhere, might be working on these innovations.
I hope that it evolves it an open source product.

Best Regards
Gilberto

P.S. For those who are interested, may I immodestly
suggest some readings on the topic:

G. Camara, F. Fonseca, Information Policies and Open Source Software
in Developing Countries. JASIST, vol 58(1):121-132, January 2007.
http://www.dpi.inpe.br/gilberto/papers/camara_fonseca_jasist.pdf

G.Camara, H. Onsrud,
Open Source GIS Software: Myths and Realities.
In: Julie M. Esanu and Paul F. Uhlir, Eds, Open Access and the Public 
Domain in Digital Data and Information for Science: Proceedings of an 
International Symposium. Washington, The National Academies Press, 2004.

http://www.dpi.inpe.br/gilberto/papers/camara_open_source_myths.pdf

G. Câmara et al., “TerraLib: An open-source GIS library for large-scale 
environmental and socio-economic applications”. In: Brent Hall (ed), 
“Open Source Approaches to Spatial Data Handling”.

Berlin, Springer, 2008.
http://www.terralib.org/docs/papers/TerraLib-OSBook-versionJanuary2008.pdf

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Dave Patton

Gilberto Camara wrote:


(c) Many innovations are produced at academic institutions.
Most of those institutions have no incentive nor mission
to support open-source development projects. Taking these
innovations out of academia and giving them institutional
support (private or public) is a way to ensuring these
innovations are exposed to the market. Those with real value
will survive.


Some academic institutions have programs that help
develop support for innovations, such as the
University-Industry Liaison Office at the University
of British Columbia:
http://www.uilo.ubc.ca/about_mission.asp

To help evangelize OS, one of the useful elements
is 'use cases', to show prospective users of OS
software why/how they can make use of the various
OS software relevant to their needs. Perhaps people
can also develop 'use cases' to show academic
institutions the value of assisting innovation
to flourish in an OS environment, without necessarily
focusing on patents and building wealth.

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Dave Patton
CIS Canadian Information Systems
Victoria, B.C.

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Canadian Coordinator
Technical Coordinator
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OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference:
Workshop Committee Chair
Conference Committee member
http://www.foss4g2007.org/

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http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/
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