Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Summary: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-08 Thread Raj Singh
I've loved YQL in demos. But Yahoo doesn't seem to get any buzz around their 
geo stuff. They have a lot of cool stuff, but it's so fragmented and I can 
never tell if it will grow, mature and/or play nice with other apps. Does 
anyone have a better feeling about Yahoo's services and strategy?
---
Raj



On Oct 7, at 3:46 PM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote:

 On 6 October 2010 18:02, Raj Singh r...@rajsingh.org wrote:
 I think that's the most sensible idea. Geonames seems to be the gold 
 standard right now.
 ---
 Raj
 
 
 
 
 sorry to be late to this geowanking but what about the geoplanet
 database from yahoo? It's a hierarchical database of place names with
 aliases. Taking your example, and using a GUI for this database, take
 a look on [1] to see a nice representation of the graph neighbours of
 your Stockton town (witch has the unique WOEID #2500105).
 
 And using Yahoo Query Language you can create a sentence and get
 parents on the geoplanet database for Stockton in XML or JSON[2].
 
 Thanks to YQL you can do some work on geoplanet without needing an AppId.
 
 Best
 
 [1] http://isithackday.com/geoplanet-explorer/index.php?woeid=2500105
 [2] http://y.ahoo.it/YGCu+wNR
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Summary: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-07 Thread Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
On 6 October 2010 18:02, Raj Singh r...@rajsingh.org wrote:
 I think that's the most sensible idea. Geonames seems to be the gold standard 
 right now.
 ---
 Raj




sorry to be late to this geowanking but what about the geoplanet
database from yahoo? It's a hierarchical database of place names with
aliases. Taking your example, and using a GUI for this database, take
a look on [1] to see a nice representation of the graph neighbours of
your Stockton town (witch has the unique WOEID #2500105).

And using Yahoo Query Language you can create a sentence and get
parents on the geoplanet database for Stockton in XML or JSON[2].

Thanks to YQL you can do some work on geoplanet without needing an AppId.

Best

[1] http://isithackday.com/geoplanet-explorer/index.php?woeid=2500105
[2] http://y.ahoo.it/YGCu+wNR

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Summary: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

2010-10-06 Thread Landon Blake
Thanks for all of the responses.

After some careful consideration of the responses I received I realize
the challenges of trying to get real world features into the type of
hierarchy I derive.

I'm going to check out the system Geonames is using with RDFa. I think I
might be able to use their technique for uniquely identifying places.

Thank you again for your help.

Landon
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On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Bob Basques wrote:

  All,
 
 I'm a long time address database creation/maintenance/re-creation
fiend myself.
 
 I've also been working with the USNG (MGRS) gridding system the last
few years, and need to at least suggest the idea of 
 using a Gridding system to locate things.  This idea is not nbew, but
USNG usage has gained quite a bit of ground the 
 last couple of years across all level of government, with a large
emphasis placed on using it for disaster response.
 
 Tying a placeName to a grid location that can describe things down to
the centimeter if needed and still stay unique as 
 a location is a very good thing.

Don't be too sure at the centimeter level.

The average rate of motion across the San Andreas Fault Zone during the
past 3 million years is 56 mm/yr (2 in/yr).  --
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/facts.php

I like Chris Schmidt's quote: The world is fuzzier than you realize.

Allan


 
 bobb
 
 
 
 On 10/5/2010 8:52 PM, Landon Blake wrote:
 The geonames ontology looks like it might work for me. I'll read it
over tomorrow.
 
 Thanks for the suggestion.
 
 Landon
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Ian Turtonijtur...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Christopher Schmidt
 crschm...@crschmidt.net  wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 05:18:47PM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
 All attempts to construct simple ontologies end up reinventing
RDF . ?
 That was actually my first thought when I saw this: Hey look,
 someone else reinventing RDFa! :)
 
 Seriously, I say this with a bit of knowledge; I mean, after all,
 I sort of work on making places searchable on maps. For a company
 with a pretty big set of data about the hierarchy of the world.
 It's a lot fuzzier than you think :)
 
 Also, Landon, I do highly recommend looking into RDF --
specifically,
 RDFa -- because I think it's heading in a very similar direction to
 what you're describing, without the need for some
all-world-hierarchy
 to tie it to, which might actually help you get a bit further.
 
 You might want to look at http://www.geonames.org/ontology/ which
RDFs
 the GeoNames database.
 
 Ian
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