Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki Upkeep - Orphaned Pages

2009-04-28 Thread Lorenzo Becchi



Alex Mandel wrote:

So looking around there a few things that could use some work on the
wiki and are easy enough for any community member to help with.

1. We have 327 Orphaned Pages, these are pages that exist but that no
other page links to. Which means no one is likely to ever find them or
their useful content.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Special:LonelyPages&limit=500&offset=0

  


many seems to be user pages that did not made a redirect to their 
User:page...

trying to be clear:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Lorenzo_Becchi
redirect to:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Ominiverdi

the code to do it is pretty simple:
#redirect[[User:Ominiverdi]]
and has to be put in your:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Lorenzo_Becchi

ciao
lorenzo


2. We have 455 Wanted Pages, these are pages that someone has put a link
in the text for but that don't link to an existing page. In some cases
it's due to spelling, in other's it's because no one's made a page on
that topic, and for some of those it's unlikely that anyone ever will
since it's not really relevant. Quite a few should probably external
link to project homepages.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Special:WantedPages&limit=500&offset=0

Cleaning up these to aspects will yield a more usable and navigable
wiki. Please if you have 5 minutes cleanup a couple of links.

If we all do a few we should be able to clean up rather quickly.

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki Upkeep - Orphaned Pages

2009-04-23 Thread Arnulf Christl
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Jason Birch schrieb:
> Alex Mandel wrote:
> 
>> There should be 0 pages removed from this process, and when in 
>> doubt about a link, just leave it for someone else who knows that
>> topic.
> 
> There are a bunch of old MapGuide links there that were migrated to
> our Trac, and could be deleted.  I can either mark these as deleted,
> or if someone gives me appropriate rights on the wiki, delete them
> myself.
> 
> Jason

Jason,
I added you to the Sysop group. Take care.

Best regards,
Arnulf.
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki Upkeep - Orphaned Pages

2009-04-21 Thread Jason Birch
Alex Mandel wrote:

> There should be 0 pages removed from this process, and when in
> doubt about a link, just leave it for someone else who knows
> that topic.

There are a bunch of old MapGuide links there that were migrated to our Trac, 
and could be deleted.  I can either mark these as deleted, or if someone gives 
me appropriate rights on the wiki, delete them myself.

Jason
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki Upkeep - Orphaned Pages

2009-04-21 Thread Stephen Woodbridge

Markus Neteler wrote:

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Alex Mandel
 wrote:

So looking around there a few things that could use some work on the
wiki and are easy enough for any community member to help with.

1. We have 327 Orphaned Pages, these are pages that exist but that no
other page links to. Which means no one is likely to ever find them or
their useful content.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Special:LonelyPages&limit=500&offset=0


Alex, not sure how this works, e.g.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Cascadoss_Symposium_2008
is indexed like that but that's a legal page about a past
event (where we participated).
I consider it a bug if a valid category isn't sufficient to get
a page not be marked as orphaned. Making artificial links
elsewhere doesn't make sense to me - any opinion how to
deal with this phenomenon?


Markus,

I think the point is that there is no way to navigate to that page. It's 
fine if an external site links to it because it is a valid page. I think 
the point is that maybe we should have a page like "OSGeo Events" off 
the front page that then links to say a past events page and collects 
all the pages about past events.


This has the benefit that:

1) if I don't know the URL, but I'm searching for events I might find it
2) search engines that start at the front page will index it
etc

-Steve W
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki Upkeep - Orphaned Pages

2009-04-21 Thread Alex Mandel
Markus Neteler wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Alex Mandel
>  wrote:
>> So looking around there a few things that could use some work on the
>> wiki and are easy enough for any community member to help with.
>>
>> 1. We have 327 Orphaned Pages, these are pages that exist but that no
>> other page links to. Which means no one is likely to ever find them or
>> their useful content.
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Special:LonelyPages&limit=500&offset=0
> 
> Alex, not sure how this works, e.g.
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Cascadoss_Symposium_2008
> is indexed like that but that's a legal page about a past
> event (where we participated).
> I consider it a bug if a valid category isn't sufficient to get
> a page not be marked as orphaned. Making artificial links
> elsewhere doesn't make sense to me - any opinion how to
> deal with this phenomenon?
> 
> ...
>> Cleaning up these to aspects will yield a more usable and navigable
>> wiki. Please if you have 5 minutes cleanup a couple of links.
> 
> With care :) please don't remove good content!
> 
> Markus

I agree a category should suffice to not have it be an orphan, in the
case of California Chapter events, we have a list of everything we've
gone to and Marketing is talking about making a table of all events
OSGeo attends, both of these methods could eliminate the orphan issue
for events.

There should be 0 pages removed from this process, and when in doubt
about a link, just leave it for someone else who knows that topic.

Thanks,
Alex
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki Upkeep - Orphaned Pages

2009-04-21 Thread Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses
Shall I remember that there is a category "to delete" to sugests to
the sysop the deletion of a page

just add

[[Category:To delete]]

to facilitate the sysop work


-- 
Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses
Ingeniero en Geodesia y Cartografía
Valencia (España)
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki Upkeep - Orphaned Pages

2009-04-21 Thread Markus Neteler
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Alex Mandel
 wrote:
> So looking around there a few things that could use some work on the
> wiki and are easy enough for any community member to help with.
>
> 1. We have 327 Orphaned Pages, these are pages that exist but that no
> other page links to. Which means no one is likely to ever find them or
> their useful content.
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Special:LonelyPages&limit=500&offset=0

Alex, not sure how this works, e.g.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Cascadoss_Symposium_2008
is indexed like that but that's a legal page about a past
event (where we participated).
I consider it a bug if a valid category isn't sufficient to get
a page not be marked as orphaned. Making artificial links
elsewhere doesn't make sense to me - any opinion how to
deal with this phenomenon?

...
> Cleaning up these to aspects will yield a more usable and navigable
> wiki. Please if you have 5 minutes cleanup a couple of links.

With care :) please don't remove good content!

Markus
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki Upkeep - Orphaned Pages

2009-04-21 Thread Alex Mandel
So looking around there a few things that could use some work on the
wiki and are easy enough for any community member to help with.

1. We have 327 Orphaned Pages, these are pages that exist but that no
other page links to. Which means no one is likely to ever find them or
their useful content.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Special:LonelyPages&limit=500&offset=0

2. We have 455 Wanted Pages, these are pages that someone has put a link
in the text for but that don't link to an existing page. In some cases
it's due to spelling, in other's it's because no one's made a page on
that topic, and for some of those it's unlikely that anyone ever will
since it's not really relevant. Quite a few should probably external
link to project homepages.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Special:WantedPages&limit=500&offset=0

Cleaning up these to aspects will yield a more usable and navigable
wiki. Please if you have 5 minutes cleanup a couple of links.

If we all do a few we should be able to clean up rather quickly.

Thanks,
Alex
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