RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] a SOAP bubble

[Miguel Montesinos]

Hi,

I agree the comments about SOAP problems. Nevertheless the most known
problems are related to XML more than SOAP specifically, and that's what
OGC standards use: XML, as a matter of fact that's the reason why some
standards like WFS are quite improvable.

So, I think we won't face a new technical disaster, but a
standardization challenge.

Ragards

-
Miguel Montesinos
Technical Manager
PRODEVELOP
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http://www.prodevelop.es

> -Mensaje original-
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Sean Gillies
> Enviado el: jueves, 12 de julio de 2007 23:36
> Para: OSGeo Discussions
> Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] a SOAP bubble
> 
> Jo Walsh wrote:
> > dear all,
> >
> > The Draft Implementing Rules for Network Services for geodata
> > as part of the European Spatial Data Infrastructure (INSPIRE)
> > are going to be published before too long, and when they are,
> > they will mandate SOAP for interfacing with all OGC web services.
> >
> > 'What?' one cries. 'SOAP [...]'. And the poor European Commission
> > are going to have to listen to a lot of opinions about what a good
> > and what a bad thing this is for people writing geographic
information
> > software and trying to get public authorities in Europe to use it.
> >
> > It would be so great to collect some kind of real numbers looking
> > outside the GI domain even. Like back when there was a SOAP bubble
> > a few years ago and Google, Amazon et al ran parallel SOAP and REST
> > style services. Google dropped SOAP for GMaps. Could we get those
> > kinds of numbers? Is anyone in GIS really supporting SOAP enough
that
> > one could get comparative realworld numbers?
> >
> > I would also be really interested in getting impact assessment from
> > client software of an change like this - like SOAP support would be
a
> > big deal for an intentionally light-footprint package like
OpenLayers.
> >
> > Any thoughts at all welcome here:
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/SOAP
> >
> >
> > jo
> 
> http://www.somebits.com/weblog/tech/bad/whySoapSucks.html
> 
>  From Nelson Minar, who worked on several SOAP services for Google.
> 
> Sean
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] a SOAP bubble

[Sean Gillies]

Jo Walsh wrote:

dear all,

The Draft Implementing Rules for Network Services for geodata 
as part of the European Spatial Data Infrastructure (INSPIRE)
are going to be published before too long, and when they are, 
they will mandate SOAP for interfacing with all OGC web services.


'What?' one cries. 'SOAP [...]'. And the poor European Commission
are going to have to listen to a lot of opinions about what a good
and what a bad thing this is for people writing geographic information
software and trying to get public authorities in Europe to use it. 


It would be so great to collect some kind of real numbers looking
outside the GI domain even. Like back when there was a SOAP bubble
a few years ago and Google, Amazon et al ran parallel SOAP and REST
style services. Google dropped SOAP for GMaps. Could we get those
kinds of numbers? Is anyone in GIS really supporting SOAP enough that
one could get comparative realworld numbers? 

I would also be really interested in getting impact assessment from 
client software of an change like this - like SOAP support would be a

big deal for an intentionally light-footprint package like OpenLayers.

Any thoughts at all welcome here:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/SOAP


jo


http://www.somebits.com/weblog/tech/bad/whySoapSucks.html

From Nelson Minar, who worked on several SOAP services for Google.

Sean

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