Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA WorldWind

2017-08-22 Thread Jody Garnett
Thanks Patrick - look like Jeffrey stepped up and added the page for you.

My invitation to join the incubation program is just that - an invitation.
World Wind is welcome to join OSGeo when you have time and resources to
apply.

Almost all the projects entering incubation are in a mature state when they
apply (sometimes 10+ years mature) so world wind would be in good company.
Even for projects that are well established joining a software foundation
is a big step, offering an opportunity to clearly communicate the state of
your project and how contributors can take part.

All the best and thanks for taking part in our new website.



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On 21 August 2017 at 20:03, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov>
wrote:

> Jody,
>
> Not sure how to interpret your guidance. We’ve had our sleeves rolled up
> and been pitching in without stop for as long as open source virtual globes
> have existed. And I think ESA-NASA WorldWind is a bit beyond incubation, we
> are more of a breeder farm for geospatial apps. I am very sure there is a
> lot I need to better appreciate about open source geospatial criteria. But
> please know that we, ESA and NASA, are sincerely doing everything we can to
> deeply support the principles of OSGEO.
>
> -Patrick
>
>
>
> *From:* Jody Garnett [mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 21, 2017 7:45 PM
> *To:* Jeffrey Johnson; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> *Cc:* OSGeo Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site:
> NASA WorldWind
>
>
>
> We also made a call for projects on this discussion list.
>
> Patrick it would be great if you can list world wind on the website. You
> are of course welcome to apply as an community project or to enter the
> incubation program.
>
> As a volunteer driven organization we do not have the idea of
> grandfathering in. We expect grandfathers to roll up their sleeves and
> pitch in.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:29 PM Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Patrick, you are welcome to include it. I can send you a login if you like.
>
> We made an open call on the projects list, but it seems many people
> are not on this list.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
> > It appears that one of the original open source geospatial projects,
> well preceding OSGeo, and a project dedicated from its inception 15 years
> ago to the principles and mission of OSGeo, does not seem to qualify as an
> OSGeo project, as much as we would care to be. Couldn't find it on the
> website.
> >
> > Would have been nice to have been included, maybe as one 'grandfathered'
> in.
> >
> > NASA WorldWind (Java, Android and Web) is here for no less, and remains
> so for the OSGeo world community.
> >
> > -Patrick
> > patrick.ho...@nasa.gov
> > Project Manager
> > https://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/
> > ___
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA WorldWind

2017-08-21 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
We can work on the content from here and cut & paste from the public
site. At least the listing is there now.

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
<patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Jeffrey,
> I'm sure it needs work, this is not my bailiwick.
> Thanks for your concern and your help.
> Open source is the only way this world can come together.
> With plenty of room for value-added being well paid for.
> Without the ^commons^ of open source for core technology,
> we will never know the wonders of mutual benefit,
> via the proverbial wheel that need not be re-created.
> -Patrick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeffrey Johnson [mailto:ortel...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 8:42 PM
> To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> Cc: Jody Garnett; OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA 
> WorldWind
>
> http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/esa-nasa-worldwind/ is up now.
> Thanks Patrick!
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>> Jody,
>>
>> Not sure how to interpret your guidance. We’ve had our sleeves rolled
>> up and been pitching in without stop for as long as open source
>> virtual globes have existed. And I think ESA-NASA WorldWind is a bit
>> beyond incubation, we are more of a breeder farm for geospatial apps.
>> I am very sure there is a lot I need to better appreciate about open
>> source geospatial criteria. But please know that we, ESA and NASA, are
>> sincerely doing everything we can to deeply support the principles of OSGEO.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Jody Garnett [mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 7:45 PM
>> To: Jeffrey Johnson; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
>> Cc: OSGeo Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site:
>> NASA WorldWind
>>
>>
>>
>> We also made a call for projects on this discussion list.
>>
>>
>> Patrick it would be great if you can list world wind on the website.
>> You are of course welcome to apply as an community project or to enter
>> the incubation program.
>>
>> As a volunteer driven organization we do not have the idea of
>> grandfathering in. We expect grandfathers to roll up their sleeves and pitch 
>> in.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:29 PM Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Patrick, you are welcome to include it. I can send you a login if you like.
>>
>> We made an open call on the projects list, but it seems many people
>> are not on this list.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
>> <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> It appears that one of the original open source geospatial projects,
>>> well preceding OSGeo, and a project dedicated from its inception 15
>>> years ago to the principles and mission of OSGeo, does not seem to
>>> qualify as an OSGeo project, as much as we would care to be. Couldn't find 
>>> it on the website.
>>>
>>> Would have been nice to have been included, maybe as one 'grandfathered'
>>> in.
>>>
>>> NASA WorldWind (Java, Android and Web) is here for no less, and
>>> remains so for the OSGeo world community.
>>>
>>> -Patrick
>>> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov
>>> Project Manager
>>> https://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/
>>> ___
>>> Discuss mailing list
>>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>> ___
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA WorldWind

2017-08-21 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Jeffrey,
I'm sure it needs work, this is not my bailiwick. 
Thanks for your concern and your help.
Open source is the only way this world can come together.
With plenty of room for value-added being well paid for.
Without the ^commons^ of open source for core technology,
we will never know the wonders of mutual benefit,
via the proverbial wheel that need not be re-created.
-Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Johnson [mailto:ortel...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 8:42 PM
To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: Jody Garnett; OSGeo Discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA 
WorldWind

http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/esa-nasa-worldwind/ is up now.
Thanks Patrick!

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
<patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Jody,
>
> Not sure how to interpret your guidance. We’ve had our sleeves rolled 
> up and been pitching in without stop for as long as open source 
> virtual globes have existed. And I think ESA-NASA WorldWind is a bit 
> beyond incubation, we are more of a breeder farm for geospatial apps. 
> I am very sure there is a lot I need to better appreciate about open 
> source geospatial criteria. But please know that we, ESA and NASA, are 
> sincerely doing everything we can to deeply support the principles of OSGEO.
>
> -Patrick
>
>
>
> From: Jody Garnett [mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 7:45 PM
> To: Jeffrey Johnson; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: 
> NASA WorldWind
>
>
>
> We also made a call for projects on this discussion list.
>
>
> Patrick it would be great if you can list world wind on the website. 
> You are of course welcome to apply as an community project or to enter 
> the incubation program.
>
> As a volunteer driven organization we do not have the idea of 
> grandfathering in. We expect grandfathers to roll up their sleeves and pitch 
> in.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:29 PM Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Patrick, you are welcome to include it. I can send you a login if you like.
>
> We made an open call on the projects list, but it seems many people 
> are not on this list.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>> It appears that one of the original open source geospatial projects, 
>> well preceding OSGeo, and a project dedicated from its inception 15 
>> years ago to the principles and mission of OSGeo, does not seem to 
>> qualify as an OSGeo project, as much as we would care to be. Couldn't find 
>> it on the website.
>>
>> Would have been nice to have been included, maybe as one 'grandfathered'
>> in.
>>
>> NASA WorldWind (Java, Android and Web) is here for no less, and 
>> remains so for the OSGeo world community.
>>
>> -Patrick
>> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov
>> Project Manager
>> https://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/
>> ___
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> ___
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA WorldWind

2017-08-21 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/esa-nasa-worldwind/ is up now.
Thanks Patrick!

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
<patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Jody,
>
> Not sure how to interpret your guidance. We’ve had our sleeves rolled up and
> been pitching in without stop for as long as open source virtual globes have
> existed. And I think ESA-NASA WorldWind is a bit beyond incubation, we are
> more of a breeder farm for geospatial apps. I am very sure there is a lot I
> need to better appreciate about open source geospatial criteria. But please
> know that we, ESA and NASA, are sincerely doing everything we can to deeply
> support the principles of OSGEO.
>
> -Patrick
>
>
>
> From: Jody Garnett [mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 7:45 PM
> To: Jeffrey Johnson; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA
> WorldWind
>
>
>
> We also made a call for projects on this discussion list.
>
>
> Patrick it would be great if you can list world wind on the website. You are
> of course welcome to apply as an community project or to enter the
> incubation program.
>
> As a volunteer driven organization we do not have the idea of grandfathering
> in. We expect grandfathers to roll up their sleeves and pitch in.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:29 PM Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Patrick, you are welcome to include it. I can send you a login if you like.
>
> We made an open call on the projects list, but it seems many people
> are not on this list.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>> It appears that one of the original open source geospatial projects, well
>> preceding OSGeo, and a project dedicated from its inception 15 years ago to
>> the principles and mission of OSGeo, does not seem to qualify as an OSGeo
>> project, as much as we would care to be. Couldn't find it on the website.
>>
>> Would have been nice to have been included, maybe as one 'grandfathered'
>> in.
>>
>> NASA WorldWind (Java, Android and Web) is here for no less, and remains so
>> for the OSGeo world community.
>>
>> -Patrick
>> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov
>> Project Manager
>> https://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/
>> ___
>> Discuss mailing list
>> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
> ___
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA WorldWind

2017-08-21 Thread Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Jody,
Not sure how to interpret your guidance. We’ve had our sleeves rolled up and 
been pitching in without stop for as long as open source virtual globes have 
existed. And I think ESA-NASA WorldWind is a bit beyond incubation, we are more 
of a breeder farm for geospatial apps. I am very sure there is a lot I need to 
better appreciate about open source geospatial criteria. But please know that 
we, ESA and NASA, are sincerely doing everything we can to deeply support the 
principles of OSGEO.
-Patrick

From: Jody Garnett [mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 7:45 PM
To: Jeffrey Johnson; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
Cc: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA 
WorldWind

We also made a call for projects on this discussion list.

Patrick it would be great if you can list world wind on the website. You are of 
course welcome to apply as an community project or to enter the incubation 
program.

As a volunteer driven organization we do not have the idea of grandfathering 
in. We expect grandfathers to roll up their sleeves and pitch in.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:29 PM Jeffrey Johnson 
<ortel...@gmail.com<mailto:ortel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Patrick, you are welcome to include it. I can send you a login if you like.

We made an open call on the projects list, but it seems many people
are not on this list.

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
<patrick.ho...@nasa.gov<mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov>> wrote:
> It appears that one of the original open source geospatial projects, well 
> preceding OSGeo, and a project dedicated from its inception 15 years ago to 
> the principles and mission of OSGeo, does not seem to qualify as an OSGeo 
> project, as much as we would care to be. Couldn't find it on the website.
>
> Would have been nice to have been included, maybe as one 'grandfathered' in.
>
> NASA WorldWind (Java, Android and Web) is here for no less, and remains so 
> for the OSGeo world community.
>
> -Patrick
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov<mailto:patrick.ho...@nasa.gov>
> Project Manager
> https://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA WorldWind

2017-08-21 Thread Jody Garnett
We also made a call for projects on this discussion list.

Patrick it would be great if you can list world wind on the website. You
are of course welcome to apply as an community project or to enter the
incubation program.

As a volunteer driven organization we do not have the idea of
grandfathering in. We expect grandfathers to roll up their sleeves and
pitch in.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:29 PM Jeffrey Johnson  wrote:

> Patrick, you are welcome to include it. I can send you a login if you like.
>
> We made an open call on the projects list, but it seems many people
> are not on this list.
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
>  wrote:
> > It appears that one of the original open source geospatial projects,
> well preceding OSGeo, and a project dedicated from its inception 15 years
> ago to the principles and mission of OSGeo, does not seem to qualify as an
> OSGeo project, as much as we would care to be. Couldn't find it on the
> website.
> >
> > Would have been nice to have been included, maybe as one 'grandfathered'
> in.
> >
> > NASA WorldWind (Java, Android and Web) is here for no less, and remains
> so for the OSGeo world community.
> >
> > -Patrick
> > patrick.ho...@nasa.gov
> > Project Manager
> > https://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/
> > ___
> > Discuss mailing list
> > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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> Discuss mailing list
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Listing of projects at OSGeo web site: NASA WorldWind

2017-08-21 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
Patrick, you are welcome to include it. I can send you a login if you like.

We made an open call on the projects list, but it seems many people
are not on this list.

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
 wrote:
> It appears that one of the original open source geospatial projects, well 
> preceding OSGeo, and a project dedicated from its inception 15 years ago to 
> the principles and mission of OSGeo, does not seem to qualify as an OSGeo 
> project, as much as we would care to be. Couldn't find it on the website.
>
> Would have been nice to have been included, maybe as one 'grandfathered' in.
>
> NASA WorldWind (Java, Android and Web) is here for no less, and remains so 
> for the OSGeo world community.
>
> -Patrick
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov
> Project Manager
> https://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/
> ___
> Discuss mailing list
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