Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Pat Farrell
MrSinatra wrote:
> did u read the article?  it talks about both, and the L version isn't
> looked upon much more glowingly.

Yes, and I think you misread it. Its also an old article.

The L version, with stock firmware, passes more tests.
The jest of the article is that the firmware in the non-L version is
terribly buggy.

There is a chance that more recent firmware is better. But if you plan
to use DD-WRT or Tomato or other open source firmware, the stock stuff
makes zero difference.

No one has said that the WRT54GL is a perfect, high performance router,
its just cheap and flexible. And with alternative firmware, lots of
folks swear by it.

The WRT54GL is not the solution if you are driving the network hard, but
very few homes do that. Most homes in the US have broadband connections
that can't load a network hard. I have a fast, and expensive cable modem
connection, and it does only 15mbs on a good day. That's hardly a load.

If you are doing mission critical stuff that drives the network to its
knees, get a real router. For the rest of us, its fine. IMHO

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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Club1820

MrSinatra;411253 Wrote: 
> Pat,
> 
> did u read the article?  it talks about both, and the L version isn't
> looked upon much more glowingly.
> 
> in my limited exp, linksys isn't very good.  my dlink is a champ
> however.  but this stuff is overall pretty cheap...  mistakes aren't
> big deals really.

Yep, I read the article and it does talk about both. Although it gives
a little bit better review of the "L" version than the Non-"L"
version.

After reading this - I began to feel a little bit of buyer remorse. 
But what the heck, like you said - its cheap.

Went back to Amazon to look a little bit deeper at all the reviews. 
Its rated 4.5 out of 5 and there we're glowing comments on this router.
Several mentioned using Tomato or other 3rd party firmware.  One
glowing review about a month ago was from a Squeezebox owner!

So, I guess I will wait till I receive the router and hook it up. 
Hopefully It will prove Tom "whatshisname" wrong! :)


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread MrSinatra

pfarrell;411257 Wrote: 
> MrSinatra wrote:
> > did u read the article?  it talks about both, and the L version
> isn't
> > looked upon much more glowingly.
> 
> Yes, and I think you misread it. Its also an old article.

you think -*i* "misread it"?-  now THATS funny, considering you said it
wasn't even talked about in the article!

and its "old?"  i think the more important question is, is it
accurate?

as someone who does a bit of P2P i would say its accurate, even today.

pfarrell;411257 Wrote: 
> 
> The L version, with stock firmware, passes more tests.
> The jest of the article is that the firmware in the non-L version is
> terribly buggy.

they weren't impressed with the L version fw either, overall.

pfarrell;411257 Wrote: 
> 
> There is a chance that more recent firmware is better. But if you plan
> to use DD-WRT or Tomato or other open source firmware, the stock stuff
> makes zero difference.
> 

of course, but there are also constraints of the actual hardware used. 
the fw can only go so far.  don't get me wrong, if i had this router i'd
go 3rd party fw for sure, i'd just be worried it still couldn't do P2P
to the level i'd want it to, among other things.

pfarrell;411257 Wrote: 
> 
> No one has said that the WRT54GL is a perfect, high performance
> router,
> its just cheap and flexible. And with alternative firmware, lots of
> folks swear by it.
> 
> The WRT54GL is not the solution if you are driving the network hard,
> but
> very few homes do that. Most homes in the US have broadband
> connections
> that can't load a network hard. I have a fast, and expensive cable
> modem
> connection, and it does only 15mbs on a good day. That's hardly a
> load.
> 
> If you are doing mission critical stuff that drives the network to its
> knees, get a real router. For the rest of us, its fine. IMHO
> 
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> http://www.pfarrell.com/

i agree with most of that, but for gamers or P2P people the router can
make a difference.  there's also how much load you put on your internal
network, (as opposed to your ISP), and i judge a router by how well it
does that too, especially the wireless part since i use a lot of
wireless devices.

i also haven't done a price comparison, so i don't know how much more,
if anything, this router would be than what i consider to be a "good"
router.  that difference in cost, if any, should be figured into the
decision.

chances are he will be happy with his purchase, esp if he uses tomato
or something like that.  but that doesn't mean the article is in any
way, inaccurate or faulty or misleading.  its just something to be
aware of.


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Re: [slim] Combining two filestore trees

2009-03-29 Thread chill

Thanks for the replies folks.  You are right that 'Browse Artist' is a
good way to do this.  I do this on my main SB2 setup, and in fact
without this option I would never have sorted my library into the two
trees.

However, I've recently added a Boom to the system.  The Boom remote has
no letter keys, and I've yet to find a convenient way to jump to a
letter of the alphabet in 'Browse Artist' (maybe I've missed something
here).  I know I can hold the scroll keys to scroll faster, which helps
a bit, but I still find it more convenient at times to navigate the
folder tree.

I have a feeling that to make use of the shortcut idea I'll need to put
shortcuts to every folder that's at the end of each branch (ie the
individual albums) into a common tree structure.  Obviously that'll be
too many albums to do manually, so I'm going to look into an automated
approach.  I recall a program (?cakewalk?) that allowed me to recurse
through a folder structure and carry out the same string of commands at
every level, so if I can just find out the batch command for adding a
shortcut I'll be nearly there.


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Pat Farrell
Club1820 wrote:
> I can only assume the "L" router will do the same, if not better. (?)

Well, the recommendation from me and others is to try it a while, and if
it is not perfect, use tomato or ddwrt or ...

> I also have a cable modem connection and it does do better (capable)
> than 15mbs everyday.  But I don't really drive it.  Just my simple
> Squeezebox setup and the "occasional" use of P2P.

My setup, exactly, and mine works wonderfully. Untouched for many months.

I'm seeding the Chaos Computer Club's 25c3 videos, just leave them up
all the time. They are a lot less popular than they were back in January.

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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Club1820

pfarrell;411257 Wrote: 
> MrSinatra wrote:[color=blue]
> 
> The WRT54GL is not the solution if you are driving the network hard,
> but
> very few homes do that. Most homes in the US have broadband
> connections
> that can't load a network hard. I have a fast, and expensive cable
> modem
> connection, and it does only 15mbs on a good day. That's hardly a
> load.
> 
> If you are doing mission critical stuff that drives the network to its
> knees, get a real router. For the rest of us, its fine. IMHO
> 

Pat, we both must have been typing at the same time.

My old router on Amazon got a dismall 2 stars, if that! I was quite
surprised.  As I stated before, it has worked well for me in my setup.
I can only assume the "L" router will do the same, if not better. (?)

I also have a cable modem connection and it does do better (capable)
than 15mbs everyday.  But I don't really drive it.  Just my simple
Squeezebox setup and the "occasional" use of P2P.


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread MrSinatra

Pat,

did u read the article?  it talks about both, and the L version isn't
looked upon much more glowingly.

in my limited exp, linksys isn't very good.  my dlink is a champ
however.  but this stuff is overall pretty cheap...  mistakes aren't
big deals really.


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Pat Farrell
Club1820 wrote:
> MrSinatra;411233 Wrote: 
>> http://www.tomsguide.com/us/linksys-wrt54g-v5-really-is-a-lousy-router,review-731.html
> 
> Hm

Again, read the model numbers carefully. They are talking about the
non-L version. With stock firmware.

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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Club1820

MrSinatra;411233 Wrote: 
> http://www.tomsguide.com/us/linksys-wrt54g-v5-really-is-a-lousy-router,review-731.html

Hm


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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-29 Thread MrSinatra

i do 256kbps mp3s, lame 3.96.1 and higher, at -q1

i don't believe i could reliably tell the difference between them, and
a CD, in a proper double blind test, and i'd be willing to bet most
people here couldn't either.

in fact, if the mp3s were just a wee bit louder than the cds, i bet
they'd pick the mp3s all day long...  (due to a psychoacoustic effect
where the ear prefers louder sound)

even if someone could tell the difference reliably, in order to do so,
you'd need the best equipment AND environment to do so, and the further
question would be HOW MUCH BETTER is the difference?  meaning, how would
you quantify/qualify it?

for most peoples purposes, that are less than ideal, i think a HQ mp3,
such as mine, more than suffice.  (i would agree however, that there
are other good reasons to use FLAC, or what have you...)


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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-29 Thread Ron F.

Nonreality;410415 Wrote: 
> From my experience and readings on hydrogenaudio.org what you are saying
> is true up to about 160kbs.  When you get into the higher bit rates you
> really can't tell any difference between mp3, ogg or aac.  There may be
> differences in size but it's really not much at all.  Try it and see.  A
> 256 mp3 is going to sound every bit as good as a 256 aac or ogg.

Personally, I find 64K MP3 to be truly awful - I have to turn it off.
128K WMA or AAC to be listenable for an extended period of time, if not
equivalent to a quality FM broadcast. 192K - any format - to be hard to
distinguish from lossless. So, when making compressed files - I opt for
192K Vorbis.

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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-29 Thread Ron F.

Nonreality;410414 Wrote: 
> Of course, of course.  I'm sure no one here would think that you would
> use any of those other lowly formats. Just think of the humiliation if
> that wasn't so. :)

It would be awful! I can't bare to think about it.


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Re: [slim] Combining two filestore trees

2009-03-29 Thread Goodsounds

Or without shortcuts, if SC is pointed to a higher level folder that
contains the lossy and lossless branches below (which more precisely is
how I have mine organized).


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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread Peter
lreinstein wrote:
> peter;411120 Wrote: 
>   
>> lreinstein wrote:
>> 
>>> No matter how hard i try, I can not get used to the web browser
>>> interface, ie, squeezecenter.   Is there a way I can push music from
>>> iTunes or some other software directly to the SB3 device?
>>>
>>> In other words, is there a way to use my SB3 that is similar to
>>>   
>> Airport
>> 
>>> Express?
>>>   
>> Not really, there's some ugly hack, but that's probably not a good
>> idea.
>> Put it on ebay and buy an airport express instead.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>> 
>
> I own Airport Express and am pretty happy with it.  But, I have a
> decent HiFi and get the impression that the Audio Quality from SB3 is
> supposed to be far superior.  (Is this true?  Have any side by side
> tests been done?)
>
> But, I am not sure I understand why such an application would not be
> doable and an attractive thing.   Direct iTunes to SB would be very
> appealing considering the # of iTunes users.
>   

I for one would be completely uninterested.

Regards,
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Re: [slim] Combining two filestore trees

2009-03-29 Thread Nonreality

The browse folder view just shows you exactly how you have it organized.
As Goodsounds said just use Artist to see both legs if you have
shortcuts made to view both.


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread MrSinatra

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/linksys-wrt54g-v5-really-is-a-lousy-router,review-731.html


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread maggior

Club1820;411077 Wrote: 
> Thanks for the reply Maggior.  Looked on RS Website but didnt see any
> Router Antennas listed.  They probably just have them in-store. (?)
> 
> If and when you get a chance,  would you happen to know the model #?
> 
> This is something I hadnt thought about - replacing the stock antennas.
> Had always wanted to do that with my current router but the antenna was
> fixed and not removable. So yes, i guess an ext. antenna router is best
> for this.
> 
> Thanks again!


I actually found the antennas on their web site.  Hmmm...it seems they
don't sell them any more...bummer.  Since I got them so cheap, they
must have been on closeout back in June/July.

>From here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_WRT54G_series) it
states that the router uses a "reverse polarity TNC connector"
(RP-TNC).  When looking at aftermarket antennas, make sure they have
this type of connector.  E-Bay probably has a good assortment.  Amazon
didn't turn anything up.  It's strange that there aren't that many
aftermarket antennas anymore.

You may not need them unless you have reception issues.


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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread lreinstein

I think I am getting the hang of it.  THanks.

I am not sure I have latest SqueezePlay version.   Where can I find it
to download? (7.4?)

Also, the keyboard shortcuts do not seem to work on the MacBook (yes
the volume does).   I am looking for a way to Shuffle the playlist.

anyone?


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread maggior

Mnyb;411070 Wrote: 
> I have static IP in my controller ? always had, but i think it is
> impossible to set up with an DHCP present, you been given the option to
> use static if no DCHP could be found during setup on the other hand
> setting up the SBR part of the duet in such circumstances.. i used
> net-udap in the end

Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I thought the player (not the
controller) was capable of a static IP, but it had to be configured
without a DHCP server present.

By using static DHCP, it doesn't matter :-).


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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread aubuti

lreinstein;411151 Wrote: 
> Thanks this worked well.
> 
> 2 new questions--
> 
> 1. is there a way to control volume?
> 
> 2.   is there a way to keep the nice icon in my "Dock" on the mac book?
> I am confused as to whether this is an application or a web browser
> and i do not know how to do this other than typing "squeezeplay" in the
> "spotlight"
> 
> Maybe I am just not using the SqueezeCenter properly? The thing I like
> about the iTunes interface is that I can select a Playlist, and then
> within that playlist i can select a genre and see the albums in that
> genre. Can i do this with SC?
1) Ctrl-up arrow and Ctrl-down arrow. A full list of keyboard shortcuts
and other info is available in the Slim Devices wiki at:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlayUI

2) it's an app, not a web browser. Sorry I don't know anything about
the "Dock" or "spotlight" in Mac OS. But the Mac OS is so intuitive and
easy you should figure it out no problem.

3) I guess you're using it wrong. For example, I can load a playlist,
highlight a track, click (or press right arrow), scroll down to the
genre line, click (or press right arrow) again, and get a full listing
of artists in my library with that genre. Note that it's an artist
listing instead of an album listing, but from that artist listing you
can click/right arrow again to the albums by each artist, etc. And a
nice feature of SC is that it supports multiple genres for any given
track.


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Club1820

aubuti;411141 Wrote: 
> Good work. It's also printed on the label in the battery compartment,
> and shown under Home > Settings > Advanced > About.

Good to know.

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Re: [slim] Stream an individual file without rescanning?

2009-03-29 Thread SteveEast

Even nicer, that track will also show up when you browse by artists,
albums, genres, etc. It's now in the database.

Steve.


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Re: [slim] squeezeplay at 30,000 feet.

2009-03-29 Thread audio53

Thanks for your post, ericj. I am glad to see you are a satisfied
customer :-)  I don't work for Aircell, but I work for the company that
designed and makes the processor unit and WAP that goes on the aircraft.
We have never been busier. WiFi on aircraft is the new 'big thing.'


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Re: [slim] Combining two filestore trees

2009-03-29 Thread Goodsounds

I suspect your folder organization is a commonly used one. I've
organized my music the same way.

With no change to your folders, I think the "browse artist" access
accomplishes what you wish. I'm not sure why you would continue to
browse music folders to access music files from artists that you know
are located in two separate branches of the folder tree.


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Re: [slim] Controller vs. PDA

2009-03-29 Thread loxllxol

For those that tried PDAs, how are you accessing SC?  In the past I've
used remote connection on my WM6.1 PDA to remote into my server and
control the web UI.  

Are there more efficient ways of accessing SC?


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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread lreinstein

epoch1970;411124 Wrote: 
> Before selling it you might want to try Moose (windows) or SqueezePlay
> (many platforms).


Maybe I am just not using the SqueezeCenter properly?The thing I
like about the iTunes interface is that I can select a Playlist, and
then within that playlist i can select a genre and see the albums in
that genre.   Can i do this with SC?


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Re: [slim] Ipeng Question...

2009-03-29 Thread pippin

zoula;411145 Wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> My question is about the search function.  I have a duet and I really
> don't like the search function of the device.  I have a big collection
> of classical music and when I rip all my music I didn't pay much
> attention about tagging and consistency.  So on some album the
> conductor is in the "artist" field  some are in the "Comment" There is
> some CD that the composer is in the "artist" or in the "title" And the
> worst of all are the interpret with are never in the same field.  
> 
> The thing is that to make a search with the remote you have to specify
> a field first. So if the interpret you are looking for is in the wrong
> field you will probably miss it.  When I really want to find something
> particular I need to use Foobar.  
> 
> So,  My question is???  Do Ipeng search function could behave like
> foobar and be able to get me every "Boulez" field that is in my
> collection.
> 
> Thank's
> 
> Zoula

I think it depends.
iPeng uses SqueezeCenter's "search" function and actually I don't know
whether that function searches the "Comment" field. I will try to find
out.

Apart from that, iPeng does show Artists, Albums, Genres and Tracks in
one list so it would indeed find the Artist "Boulez", an Album "Buolez
- Mémoriales" or a track "Boulez: Memoriale (...exploisante-fixe..)".

The results will look like this (sorry, no Boulez in my library):


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Re: [slim] Stream an individual file without rescanning?

2009-03-29 Thread aldente

Well I'll be damned.  For some reason, I thought you had to rescan for
files to show up there as well.

I created a folder called "000 - New Music" on my music server so it
shows up at the top of the Music Folder list, dropped in an mp3 file
and it works like a charm.  Thank you!


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Re: [slim] Stream an individual file without rescanning?

2009-03-29 Thread davep

Simple answer - just drop the file into your defined SqueezeCenter Music
Directory and then go in via the "Browse Music Folder" menu, find the
said file and hit "Play".

davep


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[slim] Stream an individual file without rescanning?

2009-03-29 Thread aldente

Hi folks,

Long time fan, first time poster.  I've had a Squeezebox for about a
year, and I absolutely love it.  I've got SqueezeCenter running on
Ubuntu, have a number of plugins installed, and use it just about every
day.

I have a question though; I've looked on the web and the forums, but
I'm not sure how to describe what I'm trying to do in search terms. 
Perhaps someone here can help me out?

Is it possible to stream an mp3 file directly from my computer to
Squeezebox without first re-scanning the music library?  Here's the
scenario: My friend is over and we're listening to music.  She mentions
a band she loves, so I download their mp3 from Amazon Music and want to
play it through my stereo right away.  Today, however, I need to save
that file to my music directory, rescan the music library, and wait two
or three minutes until the scan is complete.  Is there any way, once
I've downloaded it to my computer, I can just send it immediately over
to the Squeezebox? 

I apologize if there's already an obvious answer to this problem, and I
hope someone can point me in the right direction.

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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread lreinstein

aubuti;411142 Wrote: 
> Use the Choose Player option in the Squeezeplay home menu to choose your
> SB instead of Squeezeplay.

Thanks this worked well.

2 new questions--

1. is there a way to control volume?

2.   is there a way to keep the nice icon in my "Dock" on the mac book?
I am confused as to whether this is an application or a web browser
and i do not know how to do this other than typing "squeezeplay" in the
"spotlight"


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[slim] Ipeng Question...

2009-03-29 Thread zoula

Hi,

My question is about the search function.  I have a duet and I really
don't like the search function of the device.  I have a big collection
of classical music and when I rip all my music I didn't pay much
attention about tagging and consistency.  So on some album the
conductor is in the "artist" field  some are in the "Comment" There is
some CD that the composer is in the "artist" or in the "title" And the
worst of all are the interpret with are never in the same field.  

The thing is that to make a search with the remote you have to specify
a field first. So if the interpret you are looking for is in the wrong
field you will probably miss it.  When I really want to find something
particular I need to use Foobar.  

So,  My question is???  Do Ipeng search function could behave like
foobar and be able to get me every "Boulez" field that is in my
collection.

Thank's

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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread aubuti

lreinstein;411135 Wrote: 
> i downloaded squeezeplay for my Mac and it seems like a decent
> interface.   when i went to try it ... it played music from my computer
> and NOT the squeezebox.   I am a newbie and probably should have read
> something about the setup.  can you help?
> 
> larry
Use the Choose Player option in the Squeezeplay home menu to choose
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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread aubuti

Club1820;411137 Wrote: 
> Figured it out.  See it through my Router WEB DHCP Active IP Table
> listing.
Good work. It's also printed on the label in the battery compartment,
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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Club1820

Club1820;411130 Wrote: 
> How do I figure out the MAC of the controller?

Figured it out.  See it through my Router WEB DHCP Active IP Table
listing.

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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread lreinstein

epoch1970;411124 Wrote: 
> Before selling it you might want to try Moose (windows) or SqueezePlay
> (many platforms).

i downloaded squeezeplay for my Mac and it seems like a decent
interface.   when i went to try it ... it played music from my computer
and NOT the squeezebox.   I am a newbie and probably should have read
something about the setup.  can you help?

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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Club1820

pfarrell;411088 Wrote: 
> I use a DHCP server to assign the same IP addresses by MAC.
> Lets the device think its DHCP but the values are all the same.
> 
> Works great.

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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread pippin

lreinstein;411123 Wrote: 
> 
> But, I am not sure I understand why such an application would not be
> doable and an attractive thing.   Direct iTunes to SB would be very
> appealing considering the # of iTunes users.

Because Apple has a habit of locking down their stuff.

I understand why you don't like the SC web interface, it's almost as
bad as iTunes :-)

But then why don't you give Moose, Squeezeplay, the SBC, iPeng or any
other of these alternatives a try?


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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread epoch1970

Before selling it you might want to try Moose (windows) or SqueezePlay
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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread lreinstein

peter;411120 Wrote: 
> lreinstein wrote:
> > No matter how hard i try, I can not get used to the web browser
> > interface, ie, squeezecenter.   Is there a way I can push music from
> > iTunes or some other software directly to the SB3 device?
> >
> > In other words, is there a way to use my SB3 that is similar to
> Airport
> > Express?
> 
> Not really, there's some ugly hack, but that's probably not a good
> idea.
> Put it on ebay and buy an airport express instead.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter

I own Airport Express and am pretty happy with it.  But, I have a
decent HiFi and get the impression that the Audio Quality from SB3 is
supposed to be far superior.  (Is this true?  Have any side by side
tests been done?)

But, I am not sure I understand why such an application would not be
doable and an attractive thing.   Direct iTunes to SB would be very
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Re: [slim] Playlists grow extra arms and legs...

2009-03-29 Thread Howard Passman

Nonreality;47 Wrote: 
> I think Howard is just getting enthralled listening to his Boom and adds
> songs when he is in a hypnotic state and never remembers. We've read
> your past posts you know Howard. :)

:-) the 60's are far behind me now.

I do 95% of my listening through the SBC and headphones.  Now Playing
is where I started noticing it first.  Then I used Foobar to open the
playlist, sorted by title and then saw all of the duplicates.  I then
removed the dups using "remove duplicates" in Foobar.

Trust me, I always double check myself on stuff like this because after
all, I was a 60's kid :-)


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Re: [slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread Peter
lreinstein wrote:
> No matter how hard i try, I can not get used to the web browser
> interface, ie, squeezecenter.   Is there a way I can push music from
> iTunes or some other software directly to the SB3 device?
>
> In other words, is there a way to use my SB3 that is similar to Airport
> Express?

Not really, there's some ugly hack, but that's probably not a good idea.
Put it on ebay and buy an airport express instead.

Regards,
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[slim] Is there non-web browser alternative to use with my SB3?

2009-03-29 Thread lreinstein

No matter how hard i try, I can not get used to the web browser
interface, ie, squeezecenter.   Is there a way I can push music from
iTunes or some other software directly to the SB3 device?

In other words, is there a way to use my SB3 that is similar to Airport
Express?

thanks

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Re: [slim] Playlists grow extra arms and legs...

2009-03-29 Thread Nonreality

Howard Passman;410989 Wrote: 
> You're telling me :-)  At first I thought it was because I was using
> Foobar to modify some of the metadata, but then I ruled that out by not
> using Foobar for a while.  Every time I play one of those playlists, it
> adds duplicates. Odd thing is, I haven't seen the behavior in the
> shorter lists.
> 
> Yep, the paths are the same.
> 
> Anyone??
> 
> HowardI think Howard is just getting enthralled listening to his Boom and adds
songs when he is in a hypnotic state and never remembers. We've read
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Re: [slim] SqueezePlay?

2009-03-29 Thread Pale Blue Ego

sredmyer;409784 Wrote: 
> First there is no "Settings" menu that I can get to.  This PC (SP) has
> never successfully connected to SC.  
> 
> SP starts out on a screen asking what language I want.  After selecting
> "English", I get a Welcome screen which says "Lets get started by
> getting you connected to your network and music" then prompts me to
> press the right arrow key when I am ready to continue.  When I press
> the right arrow key I am taken to the Music Source page.  This page
> lists my server (which is aptly named "server") and "Other Server". 
> Selecting serve causes the app to attempt to connect but after many
> attempts it is for not able to.  Selecting "Other Server" takes me to a
> page that allows me to enter the IP address of the server.  When I do
> this, and then press the right arrow key to continue I am again
> delivered to the Music Source page.  However, this time the two items
> in the list are; the just entered IP and the "Other Server" item. 
> Selecting the newly entered IP does nothing; I see the page look as
> though it is trying to change but nothing actually happens.
> 
> The interesting thing (at least to me) is that SP obviously connected
> at some level to my server as it was automatically aware of its
> presence...I never told SP that my servers name was "server" it (SP)
> came up on initial run with that listed in the Music Sources list.
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve

I'm having the exact same problem.  SqueezePlay correctly finds the
server (shire.clarkconnect.lan), but times out trying to connect.  If I
enter the correct IP address (192.168.0.9), it lists it but won't even
attempt to connect - pressing enter just results in a hard stop.  There
are no firewalls on the PC or the server.

Is there any way to get to the settings on SqueezePlay?


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Pat Farrell
Mnyb wrote:
> Yes I think so , the network becomes very stable if you have every part
> of the squeeze system on fixed IP, server squeezeboxes controller . I
> suppose it is still possible to use DCHP for other stuff you can use
> DCHP in a "range" outside where you have your fixed IP's, for guest
> with laptops etc

I use a DHCP server to assign the same IP addresses by MAC.
Lets the device think its DHCP but the values are all the same.

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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Mnyb

Club1820;411078 Wrote: 
> What is the advantage to using static IP for Controller?  Does this
> improve on its "connect-ability"
> 
> Thanks.

Yes I think so , the network becomes very stable if you have every part
of the squeeze system on fixed IP, server squeezeboxes controller . I
suppose it is still possible to use DCHP for other stuff you can use
DCHP in a "range" outside where you have your fixed IP's, for guest
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Re: [slim] Napster - Now Playing List issue

2009-03-29 Thread pippin

Were you playing in random mode? Could it be this bug:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11411


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Re: [slim] Napster - Now Playing List issue

2009-03-29 Thread Flipper

Noticed another issue that happens periodically.

When playing a playlist or album via Napster, at times the song will
not advance as expected. When I check out the now playing screen the
time remaining in the song is counting down from I assume one hour as
the time remaining always says 59:xx when this happens. If I advance
the track manually then it works fine.

Not noticing this or my previously posted issue when using SC. 

Note that in the past I did notice this song advance issue with SC but
I have not had the happen in a couple releases of SC now.


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Club1820

Mnyb;411070 Wrote: 
> I have static IP in my controller ? always had, but i think it is
> impossible to set up with an DHCP present, you been given the option to
> use static if no DCHP could be found during setup on the other hand
> setting up the SBR part of the duet in such circumstances.. i used
> net-udap in the end

What is the advantage to using static IP for Controller?  Does this
improve on its "connect-ability"

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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Club1820

maggior;411065 Wrote: 
>  I get great reception throughout the entire house with the power
> tweaked to 70mw and new higher gain antennas purchased at Radio Shack
> for ~$8. 

Thanks for the reply Maggior.  Looked on RS Website but didnt see any
Router Antennas listed.  They probably just have them in-store. (?)

If and when you get a chance,  would you happen to know the model #?

This is something I hadnt thought about - replacing the stock antennas.
Had always wanted to do that with my current router but the antenna was
fixed and not removable. So yes, i guess an ext. antenna router is best
for this.

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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Mnyb

maggior;411065 Wrote: 
> Yes, you can go back to stock FW if you decide that the special FW
> (Tomato or DD-WRT) doesn't work out.  I have a WRT-54GS, which is quite
> similar to the WRT-54L.
> 
> The stock FW worked OK for me.  The compelling reason for me to move to
> DD-WRT is that is supports the feature of static DHCP.  This means that
> I can have my network PCs and equipment configured for DHCP and assign
> the specific IP address in the router.  I made this move since the Duet
> does not support static IP for the controller.  It also just makes
> managing the network much easier.
> 
> My router is in the basement of a 2 story house.  I get great reception
> throughout the entire house with the power tweaked to 70mw and new
> higher gain antennas purchased at Radio Shack for ~$8.  That made a
> huge difference.  For this reason, using a router with built in
> antennas isn't really an option for me since I don't want to get
> involved in having multiple APs throughout the house.
> 
> Good luck with the WRT54-GL.

I have static IP in my controller ? always had, but i think it is
impossible to set up with an DHCP present, you been given the option to
use static if no DCHP could be found during setup on the other hand
setting up the SBR part of the duet in such circumstances.. i used
net-udap in the end


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread maggior

Yes, you can go back to stock FW if you decide that the special FW
(Tomato or DD-WRT) doesn't work out.  I have a WRT-54GS, which is quite
similar to the WRT-54L.

The stock FW worked OK for me.  The compelling reason for me to move to
DD-WRT is that is supports the feature of static DHCP.  This means that
I can have my network PCs and equipment configured for DHCP and assign
the specific IP address in the router.  I made this move since the Duet
does not support static IP for the controller.  It also just makes
managing the network much easier.

My router is in the basement of a 2 story house.  I get great reception
throughout the entire house with the power tweaked to 70mw and new
higher gain antennas purchased at Radio Shack for ~$8.  That made a
huge difference.  For this reason, using a router with built in
antennas isn't really an option for me since I don't want to get
involved in having multiple APs throughout the house.

Good luck with the WRT54-GL.


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Club1820

Once again, thanks for all of the replies.  Looks like the WRT54GL is
the consensus by most of the replies.  Especially from some of the
"regular" posters on the forum.  Having had a Linksys model for 5 years
and no problems + great reception, I'm inclined to stay with Linksys. 
Just hope I don't have to call their CS overseas! Horrible.

I was hoping to get one of their (linksys) newer "nicer" looking
routers but I will go with the recommendations on this thread.  :) 

I am going to order tonight.  I am still willing to listen to other
recommendations until then.  

If I end up with the WRT54GL, then I will try it with the stock FW.  If
broadcast/reception is bad - then I will go ahead and load Tomato.  You
can go back to stock FW, right?  By hitting reset on router? Or do I
have to back it up before switching to Tomato?

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Re: [slim] Trying to get used squeezebox to forget old squeezenetwork settings

2009-03-29 Thread toby10

Superchunk;411032 Wrote: 
> Hi guys - I just got my first squeezebox so I'm pretty new to this, but
> I did search around fairly well and found no answers to this, so sorry
> if this is an old/easy one.
> 
> I just bought a used Squeezebox 3 (classic?).  Everything is set up
> fine, except I can't setup the Squeezenetwork (I'll be honest, I'm not
> even 100% sure what that is, but it seems useful).  As far as I can
> tell, when I connect to the Squeezenetwork it reverts to a previous
> owners settings - there is an email in there... The pin it gives me
> gives an error about registration conflict or some such thing.  When I
> log onto the squeezenetwork there are also some saved favorites there -
> all of the same type of music (making me thing they aren't samples, but
> someones favorites).
> 
> Can you think of any way of removing this other person's account and
> setting up my own (if that is the problem?).  I've tried resetting to
> default settings, no dice.
> 
> I don't really understand the nature of hte issue, but there is
> definitely some issue.
> 
> Thanks folks.
> 
> Edit:  Sorry, realized should be in the 'beginner' forum.


Have the original owner login to www.SqueezeNetwork.com and delete your
SB3.  Or, if seller is willing, give you the login info and you can
delete the player under Players tab.

Then you create a SN account, register your account, then re-register
your SB3 via instructions with your new SN account.

If the original owner is not willing to cooperate you will need to call
SD support and they can un-register your player from the sellers
account.


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[slim] Trying to get used squeezebox to forget old squeezenetwork settings

2009-03-29 Thread Superchunk

Hi guys - I just got my first squeezebox so I'm pretty new to this, but
I did search around fairly well and found no answers to this, so sorry
if this is an old/easy one.

I just bought a used Squeezebox 3 (classic?).  Everything is set up
fine, except I can't setup the Squeezenetwork (I'll be honest, I'm not
even 100% sure what that is, but it seems useful).  As far as I can
tell, when I connect to the Squeezenetwork it reverts to a previous
owners settings - there is an email in there... The pin it gives me
gives an error about registration conflict or some such thing.  When I
log onto the squeezenetwork there are also some saved favorites there -
all of the same type of music (making me thing they aren't samples, but
someones favorites).

Can you think of any way of removing this other person's account and
setting up my own (if that is the problem?).  I've tried resetting to
default settings, no dice.

I don't really understand the nature of hte issue, but there is
definitely some issue.

Thanks folks.


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Re: [slim] FM, Internet Radio + bitrate

2009-03-29 Thread toby10

goldstarst...@gmail.com;410951 Wrote: 
> I was wondering what internet radio broadcast bitrate is equivelent to
> FM?
> 
> When the internet radio reports 24 bit MP3 is that the same as a 24 bit
> MP3 file? I am listening to WGBH Boston which sounds OK at this bit rate
> (if not FM)- better then I would expect!

Yes, it is a 24 bit file.  Although the vast majority of Internet Radio
streams are in MP3 format, streams can also be in MP3Pro, WMA, AAC,
AAC+, and OGG.  So a 24 bit AAC, MP3Pro or OGG will sound better than a
24 bit MP3 or WMA.  AAC+ and OGG have limitations when using a SB
product.  Nor are the SB products capable of utilizing the advantages
of MP3Pro as far as I know.

IMHO a 96k MP3 stream from a properly ripped song and properly
delivered from a decent stream provider is about equal to FM.  YMMV.  
:)
I've never heard a 64k (or less) stream that I felt was as good as a
decent FM broadcast, but then I rarely listen to terrestrial radio
anymore.


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Re: [slim] Question about bridging

2009-03-29 Thread mcgsxr

Got it.

It took a few tries, but now it does connect using the IP that the
router had assigned to my "server", via the ethernet.

I can now remote connect to the headless server in the basement, via
wifi using any other PC in the house.

Thanks for the help guys!


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Re: [slim] Question about bridging

2009-03-29 Thread mcgsxr

OK, this is tough to do with no monitor attached, and I cannot bring a
monitor to the PC.

When the music PC is brought upstairs, and attached via ethernet to my
router, it is assigned an IP.  When the PC is then turned off, and
taken to the basement, and no longer attached to the router, I think
the IP changes.

Does that make sense?

If I ipconfig it while attached to the router, it shows an IP that is
part of my wifi range.  If I ipconfig it when not attached to the
router (but still upstairs and with a monitor and keyboard) it shows a
different IP.

I assume that I should enter the different IP address when downstairs,
and looking for Squeezecenter?

I might be able to attach a laptop with the crossover cable, and verify
the IP when the PC is in the basement, that should help clear this up.

Thanks for your help so far guys, this is by far the most complex setup
I have tried in the 4 years of SB3 ownership - I have used straight
wired, and wireless in the past, but with the new dedicated PC, I want
to leverage the wireless bridge so I can view the PC.


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Re: [slim] Playlists grow extra arms and legs...

2009-03-29 Thread Howard Passman

Just to demonstrate, here's on of my long playlists I cleaned out the
other day.  Now all songs appear at least twice if not three times.  I
opened it in Foobar because you cant see the dups easily in th elittle
bit of space that SC allows.


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Re: [slim] Playlists grow extra arms and legs...

2009-03-29 Thread Howard Passman

ModelCitizen;410953 Wrote: 
> Well, that's the weirdest thing. I make loads of playlists over 20 songs
> and I've *never* had anything like this happen to me. Are the paths to
> the duplicates the same?
> 
> MC


You're telling me :-)  At first I thought it was because I was using
Foobar to modify some of the metadata, but then I ruled that out by not
using Foobar for a while.  Every time I play one of those playlists, it
adds duplicates. Odd thing is, I haven't seen the behavior in the
shorter lists.

Yep, the paths are the same.

Anyone??

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Re: [slim] Spotify on Squeezebox

2009-03-29 Thread Peter314

> I use virtual audio cable to connect spotify to the wav input plugin

This looks neat, though I am reluctant to pay for VAC having got
Magnus's free method working.

Do you know if the bugs mentioned in the trial version of VAC cause a
problem?


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[slim] MusicIP How To

2009-03-29 Thread givendale

Hi All,

I have set up MusicIP in headless mode on a W2K3 server and configured
it in the SqueezeCenter.  I have spent time looking for instructions
about how to use it but I am jiggered if I can workout how to create a
playlist.

Is there a how to out there?

Thanks in advance

Givendale


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[slim] Combining two filestore trees

2009-03-29 Thread chill

Prompted by the '2 file locations' thread in the Boom forum
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61888), and not wanting
to hijack that thread, I'd like to ask for advice on merging two
separate filestore trees so that they appear to be one tree in the SC
'Music Folder'

I'm running SC on a Windows XP system, and have my filestore separated
into a 'Lossless' tree and a 'Lossy' tree.  Within each tree I have
subfolders for each letter of the alphabet, so I have:
+Lossless
--a
ABC
Aztec Camera
--b
--c
--...
+Lossy
--a
Aerosmith
--b
--c
--

When I navigate to my Music Folder on a Squeezebox, I obviously see the
two separate trees, and need to navigate into one or the other to see
the separate alphabet structure.

It seems that I can use Windows shortcuts to combine these trees, but
I'm not sure how to do this.  Ideally I'd like the root of my 'Music
Folder' to appear to have a single alphabet tree.

Do I need to create a master alphabet structure, and then create
shortcuts for all the artists beginning with 'a' in the 'a' branch,
then all the 'b' artists in 'b' etc, or is there a simpler approach? 
The problem seems to me to be that if I have, say, some albums by The
Beatles in Lossless and some in Lossy, then I can't see how they will
ever appear to be in the same location, unless I use shortcuts for
every single artist.  Is there a good way to automate the maintenance
of this?


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Re: [slim] Playlists grow extra arms and legs...

2009-03-29 Thread ModelCitizen

Well, that's the weirdest thing. I make loads of playlists over 20 songs
and I've *never* had anything like this happen to me. Are the paths to
the duplicates the same?

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[slim] FM, Internet Radio + bitrate

2009-03-29 Thread goldstarst...@gmail.com

I was wondering what internet radio broadcast bitrate is equivelent to
FM?

When the internet radio reports 24 bit MP3 is that the same as a 24 bit
MP3 file? I am listening to WGBH Boston which sounds OK at this bit rate
(if not FM)- better then I would expect!


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Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?

2009-03-29 Thread Mnyb

p-cubed;410938 Wrote: 
> The DIR-625 Rev C has been the most robust and stable wireless router I
> have used. Great connection to the Duet Controller anywhere in the
> house, even 2 floors up. Never requires rebooting.
> 
> I didn't have much luck with the WRT54GL: started dropping wireless
> connections after just 6 months. The Tomato firmware didn't remedy.
> Died completely within 8 months.

Well see mine is 12 months now :) the hardware quality on any consumer
computer stuff ? who knows I think a large portion of any consumer pc
hardware is duds, I buy a new one when that day arrives (it is cheap )
. A word of caution the third party fw makes it easy to crank up the
radio signal default is 41mW I use 84mW now but it is possible to use
200mW that could actually lead to stronger signal but more noise ? and
actually toast the radio chip in the long run.
I used 200mW for a long time before I read somewhere that more than
100mW is risky for WRT54GL hardware.

maybe one should fork up the cash for a pro router/access point next
time and be done with it.
When you are at a hotel or office ,they manage to flood a whole floor
with wifi quite easily.


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