Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
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Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ?
- I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that
works good ?
- I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost
too much to switch
- I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to
something else anytime soon
- I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to
something else that supports this
- I would consider switching if someone offered something with
similar functionality
- I have already started to look for something else but haven't found
anything interesting yet
- I have already started or completed the transition to something
else
rcstevensonaz;642725 Wrote:
>
> But, for those of us who use this is a primary whole-house audio
> device, what's happened in the last 3 years?
>
A lot has happened on the hardware side for everyone that don't have a
pre-amp and external speakers in every room:
RECEIVER - MARCH 2008
- which allowed a cheap alternative to expand to another room
- which made third party remotes like iPeng and SqueezePad and
SqueezeCommander possible thanks to additions needed for the Squeezebox
Controller remote
BOOM - AUGUST 2008
- Stereo player in a room without external amplifiers and speakers
RADIO - SEPTEMBER 2009
- Small player for rooms which don't need stereo
- Battery based player that could be taken out in the garden
TOUCH - APRIL 2010
- Mainly an upgrade of the Classic with better sound
- Could have been a lot more if the built-in server had worked
reliable
I'm more disappointed at the progress on the software side than the
hardware side. If Logitech continue to release new hardware every year
as they've done the last three years it really doesn't look bad on the
hardware side. Of course, I personally doubt we will get any new
hardware during 2011, but this is just a feeling and not based on any
real information from Logitech.
--
erland
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Re: [slim] What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 Question: What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ? - Simplified installation and initial configuration - Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration - Integrated support for ripping music from CD and tagging it - Support for more online streaming services - Improved stability of mysqeueezebox.com - Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Firmware - New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music without a computer - New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support - New Squeezebox hardware with support for video - New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price I would also vote for "<1W standby power consumption". -- Meridion 1701 Alben mit 20869 Titel von 1661 Interpreten. Meridion's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ?
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Question: What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ?
- Simplified installation and initial configuration
- Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration
- Integrated support for ripping music from CD and tagging it
- Support for more online streaming services
- Improved stability of mysqeueezebox.com
- Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Firmware
- New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music
without a computer
- New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support
- New Squeezebox hardware with support for video
- New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price
GeeJay;642722 Wrote:
> I just realized the paradox arising from my answer to this poll question
> (Simplification), and Erland's question as to why I continue to use
> Squeezebox (Flexibility). Most of my friends aren't as passionate
> about how they listen to their music as I am. They will not invest the
> time I do in tagging, artwork, etc. I fear that if Logitech tries too
> hard to make the system simpler, it would lose the flexibility that
> makes me such a fan.
>
Yes, combining flexibility and simplicity is the challenge which nobody
has been able to solve yet. Personally, I think plugins/apps is the key
to have a chance to get close to solving this. A simple core with
support for add-ons, where some users choose to only use the core and
other users want the flexibility and install some add-ons.
But this poll is about what would make it easier to recommend a
Squeezebox to your friends which don't own a Squeezebox, I'll add a
separate poll later on regarding what features that would make existing
users buy another Squeezebox and I suspect that poll result is going to
be a bit different from this poll. I just wanted to wait a bit with
this as I'd like to adapt the poll options based on what users answers
in the existing polls.
--
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Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else epoch1970;642631 Wrote: > I think "Logitech Squeezebox" is dead. I have at home SB3s and Boom, and > have equipped friends&family with the same (+ a server I whipped up.) > They're working great (except for the irritating firmware upgrades > merely required by evolutions on mySB.com that I have to manage for > them.) > I had a Duet from day 1, and it was a disaster. 2 years later it was > still. What I hear from the other products isn't all that good either. > In 2 or 3 years Logitech hasn't deployed any compelling music service > over the internet. No store, no liner notes, live events, concert > tickets … zilch. > > I can't recommend the system to anyone I know now, because I don't > trust/value the available new hardware, and the software doesn't make > progress. Hearing about video support makes me shudder. > I hope the Apple Airplay solution gets cheaper over time; that would be > something easy to recommend. > > For me I still invest in the system but I have to buy 2nd-hand SB3s on > Ebay, and I run an old version (the oldest I can) of the server. I'm > getting "Slim Devices squeezeboxes" second hand, they run cheaper! (and > they look better) > I expect a community fork will finally happen for the server and hope > for community ip3k firmwares as well. > > (No need to tell me I am so wrong on such or such account. This is my > opinion.) I hate to say that I have to agree quite strongly with Epoch1970's sentiment. I have three Squeezebox v3s and three booms; been running this for at least 5 to 6 years now. Why? the SB3's are amazing audio quality and plug directly into my pre-amps in various rooms. They work and they stream music. The devices were designed to provide amazingly high DAC for amazingly low price. They do that; do it well. But, for those of us who use this is a primary whole-house audio device, what's happened in the last 3 years? -- rcstevensonaz rcstevensonaz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7419 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
I definitely can tell a difference with replay gain, and I listen to a lot of mixes. Switching to a music service usually requires a volume adjustment or when the playlist switches from an album to a mix. Sounds like you need iPeng for adjusting relative volume on all players at once. ;-) -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 1 Radio | 1 Touch (beta) | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Squeezebox Server 7.5 | iPod Touch w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
Could it be the type of music you listen to? Most of my listening is pop, rock, country...the 4 minute song where there isn't a lot of variation in volume within a track. I imagine volume equalization would be much more difficult with classical or jazz. -- GeeJay 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 Question: What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ? - Simplified installation and initial configuration - Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration - Integrated support for ripping music from CD and tagging it - Support for more online streaming services - Improved stability of mysqeueezebox.com - Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Firmware - New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music without a computer - New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support - New Squeezebox hardware with support for video - New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price I just realized the paradox arising from my answer to this poll question (Simplification), and Erland's question as to why I continue to use Squeezebox (Flexibility). Most of my friends aren't as passionate about how they listen to their music as I am. They will not invest the time I do in tagging, artwork, etc. I fear that if Logitech tries too hard to make the system simpler, it would lose the flexibility that makes me such a fan. -- GeeJay 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
The other thing I find about using ReplayGain, even worse than my disappointment with its effectiveness, is that it makes listening to internet radio very inconvenient. Virtually every RG tag in my library is a negative value, with most somewhere between -5 and -7dB. When internet radio is played it BLASTS on all three systems, forcing me to run around the house turning everything down. If I want to switch back to local library listening, it's the reverse. I listen to internet radio much less since setting RG on my Squeezeboxes. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
Every once in awhile I will hear a track that doesn't sound like it has the right adjustment, but by and large it works well for me. I still remember how often I had to change the volume before I had ReplayGain tags; I don't have anything approaching that problem anymore. I used to go back and manually change the value if I thought the track was too loud or too soft, but I haven't done that in awhile, either. BTW most of my listening is also random, and most of my collection is FLAC. I do seem to recall that when I first applied RG tags to my collection, somehow not all my tracks got tagged. It became very noticeable which tracks didn't have a RG tag, and the volume variation drove me nuts. I went back and retagged the entire collection (and every time I rip a new CD I have dbPowerAmp tag the tracks), and things got much better. On the rare occasion where I buy a track online, if I forget to go back and apply an RG tag it becomes very obvious the first time the track comes up in the mix. -- GeeJay 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody no longer plays on Squeezebox Classic
Hokie, Thanks for all the information. The Squeezebox Classic still doesn't do Rhapsody, but I have a Duet that I don't normally use as much but it does get Rhapsody fine (so does the remote for that matter) so I've swapped them. I did not use bridging on either unit so I don't think that is my problem. I'll keep tinkering and see what happens. Matlock -- Matlock Matlock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35101 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] ReplayGain - How effective?
I've been using ReplayGain consistently for about the past six months. My library is in Flac and I've added RG tags, both track and album, to all tracks in the library. Typically, for background listening I have a Transporter (living room), an SB2 (kitchen), and a Radio (bathroom) kept in sync. All of them are set to 'Smart Gain'. My experience has been that ReplayGain is much less effective than I'd anticipated, and only offers some nominal degree of volume normalization. Particularly when listening to Random Mix, I'm still constantly fiddling with volume on the player in the room that I'm in. If someone were to sneak in and disable ReplayGain on all players, I'm not sure I'd notice. Your experience? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88971 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Lightening!
CharlieG;642504 Wrote: > This tech said he really didnt think the surge came from the cable. > He thought my DVR and TV would have been damaged had the cable been the > conduit. > > I told him I now have surge protectors for the cable and he was not > impressed. Everything he said (and more he did not say) is correct. For example, show me spec numbers for your protectors that claimed any protection. Good luck. A majority recommend it only because salesmen, advertising, and hearsay told them how to think. Protectors on cable are wasted money. Most cable companies recommend they be removed since it subverts cable signal. And because that short connection to earth (without any protectors) is best protection. In every case, a surge is seeking earth ground. If the cable is earthed, then why would that surge seek earth via your TV? Well again, many people forget about electricity as taught in elementary school science. Does a surge enter on a cable, destroy a TV, then stops? Of course not. First a current is outgoing from the TV at the exact same time a surge is also incoming on another wire. If cable is the incoming path, then where is the other outgoing path to earth? If no path to earth exists, then the incoming path also did not exist. The most common reason for damage is, for example, a lightning strike to AC electric wires down the street. Now that surge is connected directly to every appliance in your house. But again, from elementary school science. What is the other outgoing path that must also exist? Lightning striking wires down the street selects which appliance makes a best connection to earth. That is the damaged appliance. All appliances have in incoming path. Only some also have an outgoing path. Meanwhile, a protector adjacent to an appliance can even give that surge even more paths to find earth - destructively. You had damage because you all but invited that surge to go hunting inside. Every wire in every incoming cable must be earthed short (ie 'less than 10 feet') to single point earth ground. AC electric is three wires. Each wire must make that short earthing connection. Informed consumers earth a 'whole house' protector (ie less than $50 in Lowes) to connect two wires to earth. And - this is more important - upgrade the only item that does any protection: single point earth ground. Protectors are more than fast enough IF the connection to earth is short. How fast are protectors? A number that increases significantly when wire is to earth is too long, has sharp bends, splices, is inside metallic conduit, or goes over the foundation to earth. Wire length to and quality of earth ground should have more than 50% of your attention. Because protection is always about the only item that must absorb hundreds of thousand of joules - with no damage even to a protector. Why did facilities even 100 years ago suffer direct lightning strikes without damage? Because the science and experience has been understood and proven for that long. Too many people today want magic solutions (fiber optic, plug-in protectors) because advertising is their information source. Instead, learn why direct lightning strikes without damage were routine long before anyone here was even born. Learn well proven science. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground. -- westom westom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39650 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88797 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wimp app... so stupid...
Hm, works fine in iPeng so I'd say try: On the Controller, press the "play" button on the track you want to play In SqueeezeCommander, "hold" the track and then select "play". -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88969 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wimp app... so stupid...
Anyone but me using the Wimp app? For sure not the developers... This has bugged me for a long time, but today it really made me flip! Do the following: 1. In the Wimp app search for your favorite artist 2. You get a number of artists, albums, and tracks. Looks good... 3. Click Artists, and then the artists name, and then that artists albums 4. So you get a number of albums listed, click one of those 5. You get the songs of that albums listed 6. Click one of those 7. You get a page listing the title, artist, album etc... But how the f to you get that track to play? The only thing that allows you to get further is to select the artist again, and then you're on the round-a-bout... back to Albums... This is on my Duet controller, and/or on Squeeze Commander. Something is not the way it should be here. That Wimp app is seriously dysfunctional, and the people developing it should be sentenced to five years of using it before being allowed to touch anything but themselves... -- OppfinnarJocke // OppfinnarJocke SqueezeBox Duet, Controller FW 7.5.4 r9408, Player FW 69 Main use: Wimp and internet radio through MySB.com OppfinnarJocke's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22307 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88969 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rhapsody no longer plays on Squeezebox Classic
Rhapsody is not working on my Squeezebox Boom... It acts as though it's playing from a UI perspective... But no audio... :( Pandora, Slacker, my own library...everything else works fine... Is the root cause SqueezeBox/Logitech, or Rhapsody? And is anyone working to fix this? Thanks! -- MikeekiM SqueezeCenter Running on HP EX485 MediaSmart Server (WHS) - 2 SqueezeBox Controllers - 1 SqueezeBox Receiver - 4 SqueezeBox Booms MikeekiM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19937 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] enough of the silliness!
i re-installed 6.5.4i need some stability -- citabria327 citabria327's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88968 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else There is nothing like it, an open source platform that grows with your needs. These days everybody is releasing music streamers even the audiophile boutique bands are all over it. This proves that the transporter is well ahead of it's time. Logitech should consider releasing another version that looks good in a rack can do 24/192 on spdif and USB and enjoy the domination for the next five years. What most manufacturer didn't get is that you don't want computer connected to your audio system, but an extension of computer that is easy to use and simple yet with the remote server you can achieve anything you want. The perfect example is DRC one do advance processing that was not even conceived at the time development but Added later. This platform never looses the it factor, I can tinker as much as I want yet if I don't it still amazes me with it's flexibility and simplicity -- MediaCenter Source Device: Transporter Amplifiers: NAD C272 x 2 Bridge Mono Speakers: Magnepan MMG Pre-amplifier: NAD C162 Room Correction: Inguz DRC MediaCenter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32623 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Test
Skye;642671 Wrote: > Ive tried changing the options on the network cards, changing the > physical network cards, turning off services that I thought might have > caused network distractions, but nothing seemed to change much. > > Ideally, I would like to use another method of testing streaming speed > to check the validity of the Network Test plug in. It works best with ip3k players it can be missleading with Touch for example( heavy load) as explained to me in another tread . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Test
Are you having problems with dropouts on your wired Squeezeboxes? Are you unable to add another Squeezebox (your sixth, seventh?) to your network due to networking issue? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Test
Ive tried changing the options on the network cards, changing the physical network cards, turning off services that I thought might have caused network distractions, but nothing seemed to change much. Ideally, I would like to use another method of testing streaming speed to check the validity of the Network Test plug in. -- Skye Skye's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11214 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else mlsstl;642519 Wrote: > There are always competitors who'll be glad to sell you their system. > ;-) And its not like the competitors don't have their own issues. Sonos won't work with OSX 10.7 for four weeks: http://forums.sonos.com/showthread.php?t=23442 -- johnas johnas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Network Test
Actually thats what i saw with win XP around 2008, I thougth it was down to the botched up Norton install ? No more than 1500kbps, now my linux server happily do 5000 with 1/4 of the cpu capacity ? it was also an EOM HP install, maybe it is something with windows and streaming ? ( installing ubuntu on that same machine also solved this ) can it be things to tweak in windows ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Network Test
Has anyone else noticed a difference between Windows and Linux in the maximum error-free rate that the Network Test facility on a Squeezebox can run at on a wired Ethernet connection? Ive a collection of mostly old PCs running either Windows XP, WHS or Linux on my home LAN. Ive loaded Squeezebox Server on to them. If I then do a network test to each server I consistently see that it will run at 5000 kbps for a good long while if the server is on Linux, but it craps out quite soon at 1500 on any of the Windows machines. I was wondering if this is an anomaly with the Network Test plugin or my particular LAN setup (Netgear GS608v2), or perhaps a known difference in the network performance of the OS, which seems unlikely to me, hence the question. -- Skye Skye's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11214 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88962 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB plays entire album when on random play
I think the setting you're looking for in SBS is Settings -> Player tab -> (This is a per player setting) Basic Settings -> Play Other Songs in Album -> Play Only Selected Song (rather than Play other songs in album or directory). -- w3wilkes 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else I think "Logitech Squeezebox" is dead. I have at home SB3s and Boom, and have equipped friends&family with the same (+ a server I whipped up.) They're working great (except for the irritating firmware upgrades merely required by evolutions on mySB.com that I have to manage for them.) I had a Duet from day 1, and it was a disaster. 2 years later it was still. What I hear from the other products isn't all that good either. In 2 or 3 years Logitech hasn't deployed any compelling music service over the internet. No store, no liner notes, live events, concert tickets zilch. I can't recommend the system to anyone I know now, because I don't trust/value the available new hardware, and the software doesn't make progress. Hearing about video support makes me shudder. I hope the Apple Airplay solution gets cheaper over time; that would be something easy to recommend. For me I still invest in the system but I have to buy 2nd-hand SB3s on Ebay, and I run an old version (the oldest I can) of the server. I'm getting "Slim Devices squeezeboxes" second hand, they run cheaper! (and they look better) I expect a community fork will finally happen for the server and hope for community ip3k firmwares as well. (No need to tell me I am so wrong on such or such account. This is my opinion.) -- epoch1970 Daily dose delivered by: 3 SB Classic, 1 SB Boom iPeng (iPhone + iPad) SqueezeCenter 7.4.2 (Debian 5.0) with plugins: MusicIP Server Power Control by Gordon Harris WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Find cover art by bpa BBC iPlayer, SwitchPlayer by Triode PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple TrackStat, Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Announce: ReplayGain Scan Utility for Mac OS X
With music recorded at so many different levels, I've found it very beneficial to use ReplayGain tags to keep volume at a reasonably consistent level. I couldn't find any user-friendly tools to tag my audio files on the mac, so I wrote my own. ReplayGain Scan is an easy way to tag your FLAC, MP3 and AAC albums with ReplayGain information, for volume-adjusted playback on your Squeezebox player or other supported players. See full details at http://goo.gl/BXH6N -- tufty tufty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88960 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Free AVG Anti Virus Software
I have to agree with aubuti. I've used free AVG, paid Norton and McAfee. I find the free avast! to be a excellent product. -- w3wilkes 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 Question: What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ? - Simplified installation and initial configuration - Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration - Integrated support for ripping music from CD and tagging it - Support for more online streaming services - Improved stability of mysqeueezebox.com - Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Firmware - New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music without a computer - New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support - New Squeezebox hardware with support for video - New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price I think Touch hardware could be enough. The real problem is the software. The scanner is really too slow, even in 7.6 I think developers team wanted something too ambitious and too much automatic. They should really have a look at the interface and performance of others softwares. Logitech scan is really not even close to popular softwares. There is really nothing to "invent" there. The real point people should care about is the quality of the user interface. It is not normal that pure scan performance is so slow, may be wrong development choices concerning scanner and database schema. In this case, people should stop for a while, and try to understand how other softwares are developped, there is no "huge secret" there. The real problem with TinySBS is the scan, and the nightmare which makes it unusable is that you cannot prevent undesired and unnecessary rescan. >From the beginning, I suggested several times, and it is certainly quite simple to develop, a behavior in which you can perform external HDD scan on a computer, and use the database as it is when you connect it to the Touch, without any rescan. I am quite sure that this way, we would be close from something acceptable. I am trying Logitech Media Server. I really do worry a lot about Squeezebox product line future when I see them working on Videos and Pictures scan, more or less in the same direction they perform music scan, and with obviously quite limited resources. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] BBC Radio help
Hi All. I really need some help here . I am not computer expert and need basic understandable help please. I have had a squeeze box for some time and all I want to do is listen to BBC radio 2 real time and play my music. Music plays fine , all other radio stations play fine except BBC . Where the sound is too fast. I can stream BBC on my pc and it plays fine , It always played fine on squeeze box until about a month ago.Have reloaded squeeze box software, and Googled it but have got no where. Any help would be greatly appreciated before it goes in the skip. Thanks. -- mf371 mf371's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88952 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 Question: What would make it easier to recommend a Squeezebox ? - Simplified installation and initial configuration - Simplified usage after initial installation/configuration - Integrated support for ripping music from CD and tagging it - Support for more online streaming services - Improved stability of mysqeueezebox.com - Improved stability and/or less bugs in Squeezebox Server/Firmware - New Squeezebox hardware which have reliable support for local music without a computer - New Squeezebox hardware with built-in speakers and stereo support - New Squeezebox hardware with support for video - New entry level Squeezebox hardware with a lower price Streaming FLAC music w/o a running computer was the enabler deciding me to go for SB line. However I have to admit that this was not easy going in the late 2006 as NAS based solutions where either over expensive or under powered or both. I can barely recommend normal people to try this way. In the mean time Logitech released SBTouch, which is per spec capable of acting as a server, unfortunately the HW choice driven first by cost makes it being under powered to do this job reliably. FW/SW also makes out of the box experience being very confusing for a none techie guy. So I vote for having such an SB that reliably and seamlessly support local music (USB or LAN) streaming w/o a computer BTW it should also being able to tune on web radio avoiding the need of mySqueezebox.com mess that just confuse everybody that is not SB customer since the early 2000. Such a product can be easy recommended and will allows my friend staying my friend after their purchase ;-) -- your momo your momo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8095 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.0 released
Thanks for this great tool, I look forward to using it in a multi-room system one day in the future! On the whole, things are working nicely. I ran into the chipmunk issue when playing certain radio streams quite quickly, but using the custom-convert.conf from http://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/source/browse/squeezeslave/trunk/squeezeslave/config/custom-convert.conf.441?spec=svn198&r=197 and mplayer.sh from http://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/source/browse/squeezeslave/trunk/squeezeslave/config/mplayer.sh?r=197 seems to work well - apart from one small thing: When mplayer is used to resample offending streams, it uses 100% CPU. Are there any tweaks I can use to fix this? The issue is not present when using flac / sox (they use 2% CPU each). The issue is also not present when using [mplayer] (as opposed to [mplayer.sh]) in custom-convert.conf, but then all sorts of other things go wrong. CPU is an Intel Core2 Duo P8600 @ 2.40GHz, so it shouldn't be too stressed by such a transcode. I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit. -- gdi2k gdi2k's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83362 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Lightening!
With surge protectors you need a high rated clamping speed (time it takes to detect the surge and engage the protection). Not being a physics expert I suppose some surges are just too quick/close for anything to stop it, I dunno. Another thing to look into is a surge protector at your electric panel, usually referred to as "whole house" surge protection. It's just a surge device that is installed in a breaker slot in your box. You need one for each circuit (around here all homes have at least two circuits). BUT these are not meant to be used exclusively. You should still have local surge protection at your devices (computers, A/V rack, etc..). Another thing to look into is how well your electric panel is grounded. This is an area where builders will cheat because few think to ask about it, and even if you ask how would you know the grounding spike is actually xx feet into the ground? Also grounding spikes can deteriorate over time (rust, corrosion, etc..). I had my grounding spike replaced and had two of the breaker surge protectors installed by a licensed electrical contractor all for under $150. The original ground spike was only 4 feet and it broke when they tried to remove it as it was so badly corroded. The new spike is like 6 feet (might be 8 feet). That contractor told me he can often just pull such grounding spikes out of the ground by hand cuz they are often only two foot in length, which is just not sufficient grounding. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88797 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
Apple is, as Apple does, as Apple limits. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone thought about AIRPLAY support in Squeezebox Server?
The statement _IS_ correct and no, I can not provide links and maybe nobody can, so you have to believe it or not. But please have a look for only a single AirPlay product that has a different chipset or uses an pre-existing WiFi design. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85059 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do you continue to use your Squeezebox ?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 Question: Why do you continue to use Squeezebox ? - I'm satisfied with the Squeezebox system, why change something that works good ? - I have already invested too much in Squeezebox devices, would cost too much to switch - I have just purchased a new Squeezebox and won't switch to something else anytime soon - I love the 3rd party plugin/app model and would only switch to something else that supports this - I would consider switching if someone offered something with similar functionality - I have already started to look for something else but haven't found anything interesting yet - I have already started or completed the transition to something else mlsstl;642519even Apple screws up every now and then[/QUOTE Wrote: > The first release of iTunes I installed by default automatically > "managed" my system by music library by default. It renamed every file > and created its own directory structure to put them in. The Squeezebox > system has never come close to anything like that. > > Before anyone says otherwise, the very early iTunes (or at least one > early release) did not have any option on install to turn off the > management of your library and "managing" your library was part of the > install. -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88916 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify+Radio+Touch+ Remote Oddity
Are you using mysb.com or a locally-running Squeezebox Server (SBS)? If the latter, then the menus are customizable separately for each SB. You can look under Settings > Home Menu to see if Spotify is selected -- you have to do this separately for the Touch and the Radio. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88948 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
