Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up

2012-10-17 Thread nekomatic


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Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available?

- Yes , if less than $100 
- Yes, if less than $200 
- Yes, if less than $500 
- Yes, if less than $1000 
- Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound 
- No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player


I was close to buying one or two Squeezebox Touch-es when the
announcement came out, but instead of locking myself in to the
Squeezebox hardware I've instead picked up an iPod touch, which I'll use
with iPeng in a mini-hifi-with-dock in the kitchen, and resurrected my
old G3 Powerbook on which I'll use Squeezeslave (thanks for the
G3-compatible build, ralphy!) in the living room. But the Powerbook only
has a headphone output socket, so I won't be getting optimum sound
quality out of that - I'm no audiophile, 16/44.1 is fine for me and the
hi-fi isn't anything special, but I'm guessing I might notice the
difference with something better. 

If there was some indication of ongoing support and development on the
Squeezebox/LMS ecosystem, I might be prepared to pay a Squeezebox Touch
sort of price for a Squeezebox Touch sort of player. But then again, the
web interface via the Powerbook is perfectly OK, so I could make do with
a cheaper, headless audio receiver. Sort of like the Airport Express, in
fact.

Meanwhile in the kitchen, getting up to use the iPod in its dock to
change tracks is OK, but if there was a small, cheap, headless audio
receiver I could plug in to the hi-fi then I could pick up the iPod and
just use it as a remote. Something sort of like the Airport Express, in
fact.

It's possible for third party software to stream to AirPlay hardware -
Rogue Amoeba's Airfoil does. If I wanted to keep Squeezebox/LMS going as
a home-server-based multi-room-capable audio solution then what I'd look
at is how to get it to play to Airplay as well as to hardware and/or
software Squeezebox players. I don't know if synchronisation would be
good, or even possible, but it would at least solve the problem of
Logitech no longer making the kind of hardware that some of us want. And
I realise it wouldn't satisfy the audiophiles who want 24/192 or
whatever the current state of the art is, but I think we've already
agreed that's a niche within a niche, and if some of you are prepared to
pay over $500 for it then someone in their back room ought to be able to
make a living out of filling it :-)



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Re: [slim] How does Apple AirPlay compare to SqueezeBox in functionality?

2012-10-17 Thread nekomatic

If anyone's looking at Airplay as an alternative to Squeezebox, it's
also worth looking at Rogue Amoeba's 'Airfoil'
(http://rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/) which gives you selective control of
which app(s) send audio and allows Macs, PC's, iDevices and Android
devices to act as receivers, as well as AirPlay hardware devices. From
my experience so far it doesn't have quite the same remote-control
capability as you get with Squeezebox or with Apple Remote controlling
iTunes playing to real Airplay devices - so you might need to access the
computer that's sending the audio from time to time, which might be a
pain if it's a headless server - but it's an option.

There's also 'AirServer' (http://www.airserverapp.com), which despite
being marketed as a way of using your computer as a big display for iOS
games works perfectly well to turn your PC or Mac into an AirPlay audio
destination.



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Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up

2012-10-17 Thread Pascal Hibon


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Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available?

- Yes , if less than $100 
- Yes, if less than $200 
- Yes, if less than $500 
- Yes, if less than $1000 
- Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound 
- No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player


nekomatic wrote: 
 I was close to buying one or two Squeezebox Touch-es when the
 announcement came out, but instead of locking myself in to the
 Squeezebox hardware I've instead picked up an iPod touch, which I'll use
 with iPeng in a mini-hifi-with-dock in the kitchen, and resurrected my
 old G3 Powerbook on which I'll use Squeezeslave (thanks for the
 G3-compatible build, ralphy!) in the living room. But the Powerbook only
 has a headphone output socket, so I won't be getting optimum sound
 quality out of that - I'm no audiophile, 16/44.1 is fine for me and the
 hi-fi isn't anything special, but I'm guessing I might notice the
 difference with something better. 
 


I guess you have two options for the living room:
1.  Get a second iThing with a dock and iPeng
2.  Use an external DAC with a USB input such as the Audiolab M-DAC
together with Squeezeplay on your laptop



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Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up

2012-10-17 Thread toby10


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Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available?

- Yes , if less than $100 
- Yes, if less than $200 
- Yes, if less than $500 
- Yes, if less than $1000 
- Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound 
- No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player


toby10 wrote: 
 Well, Fusion's low end streamer starts at $995.  Another possible road
 block is they may have planned all of this prior to Logitech announcing
 the end of SB.  I'd want that clarified and how they intend to support a
 local server absent LMS and online streaming absent MySB.com before I
 plopped down $1k on one of their players.
 
 It's been posted here since August.
 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96231-What-a-time-to-launch-a-new-SqueezeBox-based-producthighlight=fusion

FYI:  I emailed Fusion last week asking about their current and future
support of that streaming hardware tied to SqueezeBox LMS and MySB.com. 
They have yet to respond.  My guess is they can't respond because they
have no answer, likely because they were also caught off guard by
Logitech ending SqueezeBox.

A $1k player that is rack mount only and has no WiFi, tied to
(essentially) a defunct architecture with a very questionable future? 
No thanks.   :)



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Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up

2012-10-17 Thread nekomatic


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660

Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available?

- Yes , if less than $100 
- Yes, if less than $200 
- Yes, if less than $500 
- Yes, if less than $1000 
- Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound 
- No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player


Pascal Hibon wrote: 
 I guess you have two options for the living room:
 1.Get a second iThing with a dock and iPeng
 2.Use an external DAC with a USB input such as the Audiolab M-DAC
 together with Squeezeplay on your laptop

Yeah, those would both be options. Though I was thinking more along the
lines of a USB or Firewire audio interface at £100 or less, rather than
a £500+ DAC :D



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-10-17 Thread DubMarc

What about for LRC files, just displaying the text (maybe stripping out
the timing tags)? That way, we could get the lyrics from there. I've got
some LRC files already, and would actually prefer to manage lyrics
outside of the tags associated with the audio files.

Haven't paid much attention to them, but would if iPeng could display
lyrics from there, even as static text that I could scroll myself.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-10-17 Thread pippin

No, because iPeng would not see them. Remember, the files are not on
your iThingy, whatever iPeng can use needs to be understood and served
up by the server Which pretty much brings us to a plugin



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-10-17 Thread DubMarc

pippin wrote: 
 No, because iPeng would not see them. Remember, the files are not on
 your iThingy, whatever iPeng can use needs to be understood and served
 up by the server Which pretty much brings us to a plugin

Clearly. Sorry, not sure what I was thinking.



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Re: [slim] How many of you have spare squeezeboxes?

2012-10-17 Thread ply3908

Mnyb wrote: 
 Consider the used market , but wait a year or two the prices are very
 high rigth now, would be lower when all but the enthusiast forgot the
 squeezeboxes :-/

Got a Touch couple months ago from Amazon for $239.  Got a SB1 for $30
and a Boom for $100 from Craigslist last couple weeks.



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[slim] Seem familiar? Boxee Box Dropping Support

2012-10-17 Thread garym

Some squeezebox users may also use Boxee Boxes.  They are also dropping
the original (only 2 years!) product and moving to a new product that is
not backwards compatible. They promise continued maintenance only for
the old Boxee software, but no one knows what that really means. And
there are lots of bugs that have never been fixed. Like the title says,
sound familiar? 

http://blog.boxee.tv/2012/10/16/boxee-box-past-present-and-future/#idc-container



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Re: [slim] Seem familiar? Boxee Box Dropping Support

2012-10-17 Thread castalla

garym wrote: 
 Some squeezebox users may also use Boxee Boxes.  They are also dropping
 the original (only 2 years!) product and moving to a new product that is
 not backwards compatible (and has less functionality for most users).
 They promise continued maintenance only for the old Boxee software,
 but no one knows what that really means. And there are lots of bugs that
 have never been fixed. Like the title says, sound familiar? 
 
 http://blog.boxee.tv/2012/10/16/boxee-box-past-present-and-future/#idc-container

Ooooh ... they ARE angry those boxeesters!



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[slim] iOS app update still doesn't work!!!

2012-10-17 Thread bobpenn

My iPhone 5 just updated the squeezebox app for the iPhone. Just like
before, it scans for players and doesn't find any. All you have is a
blank screen, just like before. Did they even test this before they
released it. Comon Logitech…



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-10-17 Thread pippin

Well, it's not that clear after all you can't know what's available from
the server. But in reality it's just music and metadata for that music,
no additional files.



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Re: [slim] Seem familiar? Boxee Box Dropping Support

2012-10-17 Thread Mnyb

castalla wrote: 
 Ooooh ... they ARE angry those boxeesters!

They even removed the ability to play local content in their new product
:O .

Logitech did not dare that (yet) on the UE platform ,that be proactive
as most support and bugs arise from badly running local server and
misstaged flaky libraries... :P

And they are Angry, btw thanks for the heads up I think I still can find
a boxee in stores near me .

Was thinking of getting one of those to ? I think I have a new line of
work ,every product i fancy will fail in the market any venture
capitalist can PM me I and we may have an agreement :)



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Re: [slim] How many of you have spare squeezeboxes?

2012-10-17 Thread Mnyb

ply3908 wrote: 
 Got a Touch couple months ago from Amazon for $239.  Got a SB1 for $30
 and a Boom for $100 from Craigslist last couple weeks.

Cool :) the SB1 may not be the most useful has some limits but for 30$
ok . Go for SB2 and onwards .

But as collectors item I would like an Slimp3 and a SB1



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