Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread dasmueller





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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread RonM

So this is a portable device, intended to provide portable music?  I'd
like to see the earbuds/headphones that go with it.  iPods and such are
typically used as mobile devices, useful for listening to music on the
go.  Anything that is going to capitalize on high-grade sound needs a
high-grade speaker assembly.  To get that in a mobile context implies
tradeoffs -- e.g. sound-cancelling technology that compromises the
quality issue, sound-blocking features that makes you deaf to everything
around you, or sound volumes that just make you deaf.

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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread aubuti

pippin wrote: 
> But people buying an iPod touch (the few of them who still do) usually
> don't do so because they want a music player but they want a cheap and
> small "mini-tablet" to run Apps on. iOS and the touch screen are the
> killer features, not music playing.
No doubt. But if you want a music player -- as many do, even if it's a
minority -- then the comparison is valid.



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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread atrocity

aubuti wrote: 
> 1) Setting aside for the moment pippin's key observation that nobody
> buys iPods any more, that's the same price as a 64GB iPod touch, which
> has half the capacity and no option for swapping out microSD card.

The iPod also works with fewer formats.

I haven't seen the issue of gaplessness addressed yet.  One would hope
that will all the artists and technicians on board that won't be an
issue, but...



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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread pippin

But people buying an iPod touch (the few of them who still do) usually
don't do so because they want a music player but they want a cheap and
small "mini-tablet" to run Apps on. iOS and the touch screen are the
killer features, not music playing.



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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread aubuti

cliveb wrote: 
> It would appear that the Pono ecosystem basically mirrors the
> iPod/iTunes/iTunes store model. Nothing new there. What *is* new are the
> following:
> 
> 1. The player costs $399. This is a joke, right?
> 2. The player has a triangular form factor that makes it inconvenient to
> slip in a pocket.
1) Setting aside for the moment pippin's key observation that nobody
buys iPods any more, that's the same price as a 64GB iPod touch, which
has half the capacity and no option for swapping out microSD card. 
2) True, although I suppose it depends on the pocket. A coat pocket or
backpack pocket would be fine. Trousers, not so much unless they're
really baggy.



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Re: [slim] Soundcloud plugin: Broken?

2014-03-13 Thread dewalty

ModelCitizen wrote: 
> Cheers Pippin. I saw the term SqueezeCloud when I attempted the
> api/token thingy at SoundCloud. That's all.
> 
> And of course, the third party plugin still required the Soundcloud
> ApiKey and I still get a Soundcloud page not found error when I look for
> it (error 404) . Bit at last I found this helpful post:
> 
> "If you look at the full URL for the github navigation, it should end in
> something like this:
> callback.html?code=bb39b1b3411555346395d3893d89bc4
> b#access_token=&scope=non-expiring
> You should be able to use the  above as the API."

Perfect... this worked for me. Thanks



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Re: [slim] Bufferring issue with HD files from NAS; same files OK from Imac

2014-03-13 Thread acanning

It depends on what your priorities are.

If you're concerned about the sound quality, and I would guess that you
are if you're bothering with the high-res files, then you need to get a
Touch to benefit from the increased resolution. A new server solution
will carry out the transcoding but what is the point when this will
negate the possible sound improvements. If you can't find a Touch
anywhere I would permanently transcode the files to 24/48 and then put
them on the Nas.

Regards



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Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2014-03-13 Thread anybody

One bug that has been annoying me for quite some time is that SqueezePad
does not always (it only happens occasionally) correctly display the
On/Off Status on the left side. I don't really know how to trigger this,
but this must be somewhat related to using me the alarm clock - which is
the only thing I'm using the SqueezeBox Classic for - random MP3s as
alarm every morning from the music collection.

Here is a screenshot of SqueezePad showing on the right that the song is
playing (the progess bar at the bottom is moving!), while simultaeously
claiming on the left that could could turn the SqueezeBox on.
[image: http://nv-systems.net/pics/forum-slimdevices/squeezepad1.PNG]

After forcefully closing the app and starting it again, the song is
still playing but now on the left it "knows" that it's on and that it
could be turned off.
[image: http://nv-systems.net/pics/forum-slimdevices/squeezepad2.PNG]

It would be nice if the on/off detection could be made more reliable in
SqueezePad.

I'm using a SqueezeBox Classic and the logitechmediaserver in version
"7.8_pre20140105" on Gentoo Linux. This bug is not specific to a special
version of SqueezeCenter/Logitechmediaserver though. I've had this for
years. Thanks for listening :D



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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread Mnyb

What would make sense would be if Pono bougth squeezebox and set up it's
music store :) yea i know




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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread pippin

And, well, nobody buys iPods anymore.



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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread cliveb

It would appear that the Pono ecosystem basically mirrors the
iPod/iTunes/iTunes store model. Nothing new there. What *is* new are the
following:

1. The player costs $399. This is a joke, right?
2. The player has a triangular form factor that makes it inconvenient to
slip in a pocket.



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Re: [slim] Pono Player

2014-03-13 Thread Pascal Hibon

I don't understand the Pono product. It just seems like yet another
portable music player. There are plenty of portable music players around
who are able to play lossless music formats. 
If this is about quality, then why a portable player and why not a
streamer that you can hook up to your stereo?
I'm never going to 'actively' listen to music on my portable devices,
but I will do so on my stereo at home.
And if this is about quality, then why bother with hi-res formats?
Hi-res is not a guarantee for high quality music.
If quality is important then young should be talking to the music
industry and try to get them 1) make good quality recordings and mixes
and 2) stop compressing the hell out of the music.



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