Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
If I add an album to my LMS without rescanning my library, I can access the newly-added material from my Duet or Boom controller by scrolling through the Music Folder list. Yet Orange Squeeze seems to be building the folder from the previous scan, and doesn't build the list dynamically. That might actually be the result of a LMS bug: LMS doesn't update the last scan timestamp in BMF mode. What version are you running? I think I fixed this in the 7.8.x branch. You might want to give this a try if you haven't already. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] OraStream?
OraStream uses a lossless compression algorithm. However, it has the unique advantage of transforming the compressed bitstream into fine-grained scalable layers while maintaining its 'losslessness'. We From what I get that's the same 'losslessness' as the 128kbps MP3's claimed CD quality. There's a reason why they put it in quotes: they shave off stuff they think you won't hear anyway. But it's a lossy process, not lossless. You could consider downsampling your hires file to CD quality maintaining 'losslessness' because you can't hear the difference anyway :-P. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] OraStream?
Piont seem to be to traffic shape when needed , you get the full Rez when your bandwith is up to it . But . Only a very limited amount of tracks at the moment . So it can't be a drop in replacement for any current streaming service due to the lack of program material . If there is nothing to listen to the quality does not matter . I can think of it as a complementary service to the ones I already have and to my own collection , but then the price must be lowered. There no piont going beyond 16/44.1 for streaming . You can make extremely weak arguments for 24/96 as a consumer format for disc or download . 24/192 is just silly . And . There electronics track offerings are at 16/44.1 and the classical tracks are for the most 24/96 . Do you need EDO : probably not as most tracks are 24/96 or less even if an occasional 24/192 would show up LMS a would handle it trough downsampling ( yes I think direct mysqueezebox.com support is very unlikely ) . So basically the need of EDO a is determined by the need for USB audio and/or don't having a server capable of downsampling 192k or using DoP . And 96k demands external DAC as EDO won't make the squeezebox support 24/192 internally . But hey . They are also a store so if some of thier limited music offering suits you just buy the albums :) So my questions would be is there anyway to get to thier online store without forking out for a monthly subscription or is this subscription only . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102914 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
pippin wrote: How does it work when using iPeng as a player (do you do that)? If you are using iPeng as a player: could you check whether changing the buffer size has any effect (in iPeng's Bitrate Limiting menu)? I don't use the iPeng as a player, I didn't purchase that feature. Tidal's app on the iPad or iPhone both work fine like my Windows box.. It's just the VB using ickstream that doesn't work reliably. I also have a Squeezebox touch, and that has the same stuttering issue. sully1801's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
sully1801 wrote: I don't use the iPeng as a player, I didn't purchase that feature. Tidal's app on the iPad or iPhone both work fine like my Windows box.. It's just the VB using ickstream that doesn't work reliably. I also have a Squeezebox touch, and that has the same stuttering issue. How is the Vortexbox connected to your local network? Ethernet I assume. Ethernet cable or something like ethernet over powerline? *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 Squeezelite *Spares:* Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone6 iPadAir2 (iPeng8 Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How well do the DACs hold up nowadays?
simbo wrote: I've been away from the SB scene for a while (except for using them to, well, listening to music) but my wife bought me a Little Dot I+ headphone amp for Christmas and I think I'm getting the bug again. So my question is, after all these years, how good are the SB DACs compared to what is on the market these days? The Transporter DAC was considered the best around at the time, if I remember correctly. Even the SB3 DAC was well rated. How do these compare to some of the cheap small DACs like the FiiO? Do you get better DACs in your mobile phone nowadays than the venerable Transporter? Cheers all, and happy new year :-) If you've been away a long time, perhaps you have yet to discover Archimago's enlightening measurements of many different audio devices? http://archimago.blogspot.ca Best Regards, Gandhi not often enough well recorded and mastered cds *|* dbpoweramp with accuraterip *|* flac *|* fanless asrock z77e-itx intel i5-3570t *|* ubuntu 12.04.1 lts 32-bit *|* lms 7.8.0 *|* brutefirdrc 3.0 (rewv5) *|* transporter (balanced out) *|* thule ia252b *|* audio physic scorpio *|* no fancy cables. *+* also some booms. *+* harmony 525s for them all, including waking the server from s3. Gandhi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58909 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
erland wrote: Not yet, we are working on it. Maybe some more room for Deezer improvements ;-) In noticed that when playing a webradio using ickStream/Deezer, it only plays one song. Also, it shows the details of the webradio that's playing, (i.e. Electro), not the details of the song that's playing. Let me know if I can do something to help... Best regards, Dennis. ::Please vote::: '::bug 1330:: New music should work on creation date' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330) '::bug 17963:: New and changed doesn't handle changed files ' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17963) '::bug 17799:: Use a separator such as 'Also appears on' when viewing the albums by an artist' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17799) '::bug 18054:: Add support for 'Set Subtitle'/'Disc Subtitle' (ID3v2.4 TSST/ID3V2.3 TIT3)' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18054) 1x Boom, 1x Classic, 4x Controller, 1x Radio, 4x Receiver, 2x Touch verypsb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
garym wrote: How is the Vortexbox connected to your local network? Ethernet I assume. Ethernet cable or something like ethernet over powerline? Yes, 100M Ethernet from a Netgear R7000 Router. I've also tried a 1 GB Ethernet card in that PC and swapped CAT 5 cables...no change in performance. sully1801's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
DanSmedra wrote: Also...please check out the newer(?) OraStream. The problem of delivering high quality music in a convenient way, requires a new solution: OraStream. Beyond MP3 and CD, OraStream was purposed and built from ground up to 'fluidify' the downloading and streaming of high-resolution music up to 9,216 kbps (or 192kHz/24-bit) over any data network [bye-bye Pono]. We think OraStream works great, in bridging lossy and lossless audio, and in improving music experience by adapting streams to network conditions without complex transcoding. Try it yourself and experience the difference today! http://www.orastream.com/#1 I would be interested to know if anyone on here has tried this, and what they think of the streaming sound quality, apparently up to 24b/192k (via Orastream's own codec). Living room: SB Touch, with coax to: Marantz PM7005, TDL RTL3 speakers. Dining room: SB Boom. Kitchen: SB Radio (1/3), with battery. Bedroom 1: SB Radio (2/3), no battery. Bedroom 2: SB3 (1/2), AE 2.1. speakers. Bedroom 3: Slim Devices SB3 (2/2), Edirol MA-15D powered monitors. Bathroom: SB Radio (3/3) (in white), with (and running on) battery. Server: LMS v7.9.0 on WHS 2011 running on HP Proliant N40L (1.5GHz, 8GB). Furry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11328 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2015 - Is the Squeezebox Universe Expanding of Shrinking?
With the amount of single-board computers on the market (Raspberry Pi, UDOO, Hummingboard, Cubox, etc), I think we will be set for awhile. Now might be a good time to fork and rebrand Logitech Media Server, sans the mysqueezebox.com stuff. It's clear by now that Logitech is slowly winding down the product line, and being that LMS is open source, the community could very take it over. I've been using the Squeezebox line of products since 2004, but sold them off a couple of years ago in favor of Raspberry Pi's. At that time, those sorts of machines were still in their infancy as far as audio streaming, but with the sheer amount of development, they have become sort of mainstream among the audio community. badassbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102809 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support.
d6jg wrote: Trying it now. Generally really good. Screensaver settings seem to have no effect though - that is only bug I have found so far. I think that's a problem with the skin. What skin are you using? To be sure, please try using the WQVGA Small Print skin to see if it still happens. After changing the skin restart jivelite before testing. Ralphy *1*-Touch, *4*-Classics, *2*-Booms, *1*-Reverted UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://www.mediafire.com/folder/4q8dvq20iyz9e/Builds) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donationsbusiness=LL5P6365KQEXNlc=CAitem_name=Squeezeslavecurrency_code=USDbn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96573 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
pippin wrote: What exactly are the problems you are seeing? Intermittently the playback from Tidal studders; blank gaps of no sound ranging from just a second to several seconds. Sometimes it works, other times it's unlistenable. The odd part is that I can play the same selection form Tidal on my Windows PC immediately following my Vortexbox/Squeezebox PC being unable to do it. My download speed is typically just under 10 mbps, upload is just under 3 mbps, ping is @ 6 ms when running tests. I am also a iPeng user willing to take log snapshots send on for problem determination. Thanks.. sully1801's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
amcluesent wrote: Naxos ClassicsOnlineHD would be a good service to add. I agree, this is a good idea. erland, pippin, remd, etc., please take note. IckStream/iPeng should become known for THE answer to musical diverse tastes, including audiophiles of all shapes and sizes. This can only strengthen the Squeezeosphere. *Source*: Streaming TIDAL, Pandora, other Logitech Media Server 7.7.5-ickStream plugin, with iPeng app on iPhone5s/iPad *Great Room*: SB Touch(1) AudioQuest Toslink PS Audio DL3 DAC Audio Envy cables Martin Logan Purity/powered synched JVC 110w amp Martin Logan Motion 4 *Adjacent*: synched SB Touch(2) AudioEngine 5/powered *Master Bedroom*: Samsung Blu-ray player/Pandora older Sony Wega TV with excellent speakers WTB: SB Touch, send private message DanSmedra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62637 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How well do the DACs hold up nowadays?
Gazjam wrote: Shame the OP isnt getting the kind of discussion and help he was looking for. Ive gave my experience, maybe others might pitch in too. Sorry guys, I've been away (bad timing for posting something so contentious by the looks of things!). Perhaps this was better suited to the Audiophile section, but I don't necessarily see this as an audiophile concern; 10 years ago maybe, but now people are buying DAC attachments for their PCs and mobile phones, new services are providing lossless streaming... normal consumers are now after sound quality, not just convenience, from their digital music. Chip makers are bringing out new DAC chips all the time, which -implies- there's been development, but does that mean new DACs are intrinsically better than older ones, in the same way that a new CPU is presumed better than a 10 y/o one? Does anybody have any experience in purchasing one of these newer small-form DAC devices because they were trying to make their SB better, and if so what were their experiences? Has anyone given up on their SB in favour of their mobile phone? *family room:* receiver; *kitchen:* boom; *garden:* classic; *bedroom:* boom; *anywhere:* controller, squeezecommander, android squeezeplayer 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102852 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement - ickStream open beta release on Squeezebox !
How does it work when using iPeng as a player (do you do that)? If you are using iPeng as a player: could you check whether changing the buffer size has any effect (in iPeng's Bitrate Limiting menu)? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 8, the Universal App for iOS 7 and iOS 8* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102497 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
Orange Squeeze is easily my favorite app download ever. Benefactor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
Great job on Orange Squeeze, I'm using it all the time on my tablet and phone, hardly ever revert to the Duet remote. And extremely useful for my Pi+HiFiBerry-based players. If I add an album to my LMS without rescanning my library, I can access the newly-added material from my Duet or Boom controller by scrolling through the Music Folder list. Yet Orange Squeeze seems to be building the folder from the previous scan, and doesn't build the list dynamically. I know, not a big deal to rescan, but with a large library and/or slow LMS devices (such as the WD My Cloud), it's a pain to rescan the library every time just to access newest material. Or am I doing it wrong? :-) thanks from a fellow cyclist and veteran of the software industry bitjockey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21194 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] OraStream?
Today, people generally listen to music in MP3. For a decade, storage efficiency has been gained at the cost of nearly 90% of the original audio data on music CDs: all of which is lost through compression. This compression process is irreversible - once your music is compressed, it will never sound like the original. MP3 and variants like AAC and WMA are lossy formats. By contrast, lossless formats like FLAC, Apple Lossless and AIFF retain a bit-identical 'zipped' version of the original music to ensure absolute music fidelity. The state of the art streaming adopted by services like Spotify, Beats Music, Deezer and Qobuz (among many others) is up to 320kbps for lossy quality (MP3) and up to 1,411kbps for lossless CD quality (FLAC). The problem of delivering high quality music in a convenient way, requires a new solution: OraStream. Beyond MP3 and CD, OraStream was purposed and built from ground up to 'fluidify' the downloading and *_streaming_of_high-resolution_music_up_to_9,216_kbps_(or__192kHz/24-bit)_over_any_data_network_*. OraStream uses a lossless compression algorithm. However, it has the unique advantage of transforming the compressed bitstream into fine-grained scalable layers while maintaining its 'losslessness'. We shave away data layers to fit the bitstream nicely through the available network bandwidth, without any expensive transcoding. This is the value of OraStream. Has anyone researched this yet? Will the Ultra Hi-Rez stream require use of the EDO plugin or not? Is anyone working on an OraStream plug-in for Squeezebox or IckStream? *Source*: Streaming TIDAL, Pandora, other Logitech Media Server 7.7.5-ickStream plugin, with iPeng app on iPhone5s/iPad *Great Room*: SB Touch(1) AudioQuest Toslink PS Audio DL3 DAC Audio Envy interconnect cables Martin Logan Purity/powered synched SB Touch(2) JVC 110w amp Martin Logan Motion 4 *Adjacent*: synched SB Touch(2) AudioEngine 5/powered *Master Bedroom*: Samsung Blu-ray player/Pandora older Sony Wega TV with excellent speakers WTB: SB Touch, send private message DanSmedra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62637 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102914 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
