Re: [slim] new amp suggestions
Giza2020 wrote: > If anyone has a recommendation for an amp as per OP but with a USB > connection to power a Chromecast audio I'd love to hear as well. I have an amp with USB charging socket (Onkyo CRN755) but not in same price league. I tried using it to power a Raspberry Pi connected to the same amp and it definitely created interference on the audio. I am not saying it will in all cases but a separate supply is safer. *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104950 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
If it's Done in LMS it can support all players even the older ones . And software players like squeezelite SqueezePlay etc a server implementation would include and enable a lot of players . And player firmware is very rarely updated these days . probably nerver . An "app" done for Touch is also a possibility . You can install apps on the Touch besides the server side plugins . So an MQA app is one idea . Advantage if an mysqueezebox.com supported service include MQA you can run without a server . Yes I did read some of the links , but I have never come across an actual implementation yet . It been hinted that indeed deezer and tidal Aubusson with MQA will still work on non MQA enabled players . Anyone actuall tried yet ? I've seen on ickstream that some services started with 24 bit ? I can only run tidal or Spotify where I live .. Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] new amp suggestions
mooblie wrote: > I would go for something like this digital amplifier: > > www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121767091695 I have something similar - Topping TP21 driving some Wharfedale Modus Cubes. Surprisingly good sound. The Topping is very well constructed. *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104950 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Julf wrote: > What level of exam do I need to pass to show sufficient knowledge? It seems to me that you just passes by your privious answer Would you have any interest and time to do the neccessary development ? (If we solve any licence issues) R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
I've aksed. https://forum.ickstream.com/viewtopic.php?f=11=600 Still I would guess a user like Triode, Michal H, and Pippin would have the knowlegde of who to aks, effort of work, etc. I shall also sende a message to Tidal even though not sure how they can contribute to a possible plugin or firmware upgrade. First I think we need to agree upon that the plugin has to be on the player and not in LMS, next can it be a plugin, or does it have to be a firmware upgrade. I'm sure someone reading this know for sure what is needed from a pure technical point of view. If comersial issues I suggest to start something on kickstarter or similar together with the person that are willing to so the development. But leave that for now. I'm interested to know for sure if it can be done and what is needed in order to make this happen. R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Mnyb wrote: > If it's Done in LMS it can support all players even the older ones . And > software players like squeezelite SqueezePlay etc a server > implementation would include and enable a lot of players . > > And player firmware is very rarely updated these days . probably nerver > . > > An "app" done for Touch is also a possibility . You can install apps on > the Touch besides the server side plugins . So an MQA app is one idea . > Advantage if an mysqueezebox.com supported service include MQA you can > run without a server . > > Yes I did read some of the links , but I have never come across an > actual implementation yet . It been hinted that indeed deezer and tidal > Aubusson with MQA will still work on non MQA enabled players . Anyone > actuall tried yet ? I've seen on ickstream that some services started > with 24 bit ? > I can only run tidal or Spotify where I live .. Thanks. This clear a bit. Let us hope the next two weeks can enlighten us a bit as I guess some secrets will be answered during CES. R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
R1200CL wrote: > Would you have any interest and time to do the neccessary development ? > (If we solve any licence issues) Thanks, but unfortunately very limited time - and not really convinced there is any benefit (except to generate licensing income fro Meridian - or, to be precise, the new "MQA Limited"). "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Mnyb wrote: > Y > > If the streams can be played anyway without MQA ? Or not ? That would > also decide what's worthwhile ? Yes it can be played anyway I'm a bit supriced you did not know. Please at least read the links i provided in this thread, or search some basic knowlegde about MAQ. I'm after facts from those that know LMS and Squeezebox Touch firmware and plugins. Not opinions. R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
R1200CL wrote: > First I think we need to agree upon that the plugin has to be on the > player and not in LMS I guess the answer is "it depends", as usual. Remember that MQA is just a compression format. Thus it can be uncompressed either in LMS or in the player, but doing it in LMS will result in more network bandwidth being used. > next can it be a plugin, or does it have to be a firmware upgrade. Plugins are a LMS feature. You can do the MQA decompression in a plugin on LMS or in player firmware. > If comersial issues I suggest to start something on kickstarter or > similar together with the person that are willing to so the development. > But leave that for now. I'm interested to know for sure if it can be > done and what is needed in order to make this happen. The first step would be to find out licensing terms and costs. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] new amp suggestions
Giza2020 wrote: > If anyone has a recommendation for an amp as per OP but with a USB > connection to power a Chromecast audio I'd love to hear as well. In my Garage / backup Man Cave there is one of these SMSL SA things and its powered by an old PSU that i have from an old LA-CIE NAS that has 12 & 5 Volt lanes. A unused ATX PSU from an old Computer also supports 12&5 Volts. Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104950 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
R1200CL wrote: > I'm after facts from those that know LMS and Squeezebox Touch firmware > and plugins. Not opinions. What level of exam do I need to pass to show sufficient knowledge? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Julf wrote: > I guess the answer is "it depends", as usual. > > The first step would be to find out licensing terms and costs. Julf Who in the Squeezebox world be best suited to email MQA and ask ? "MQA offers full professional support from its expert team of software and hardware engineers for manufacturers wishing to incorporate a decoder into existing or projected products with minimum delay. Please contact MQA at i...@mqa.co.uk for full details of the range of development and support options available." http://hifipig.com/mqa-integration-made-simple-ces-2016/ Maybe you could ask ? I do not have enough technical skilles to email them, nor the autorithy to represent the Squeezebox community. R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How integrate LMS and an android clock application ?
Thanks for your reply. I m going to study that. I already use tasker. minscof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104933 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
For newer services that would be the ickstream team go to thier forum there is already a tread . They are all here already it's erland, pippin and remd . Here it is mherger . I'm with Julf here , why ? Unless actually not implementing MQA ( but using some legacy mode and bypassing it ) makes the service sound worse than the good old 16/44.1 they seems to want to abandon :( I do see the streaming service benefit here ( not us consumers ) it is a proprietary lossy format with DRM . A FLAC service like tidal practically broadcast the CD master which makes the paranoid record companies unhappy . I do understand why streaming services may like the format . You can ofcourse record "off air" as in the good old days , but reintroduce some generational loss would make some happy . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
Otto-Wilhelm wrote: > Roon is great. I consider to go for it in addition to my LMS-Squeezebox > setup. Squeezebox devices can be supplied directly from Roon with music > streams, but with the disadvantage that the LMS in the network has to be > shut down for achieving that a respective Squeezebox device connects > automatically with Roon. Alternatively you can connect a respective > Squeezebox device manually via the local device controls to Roon using > "Switching library". > > Further, there is the option to supply Squeezebox devices with music > streams via Airplay, which Roon supports, and LMS with Shairtunes Plugin > and Shareport, what apparently requires LMS running under Linux. > Currently this is my favorite solution, since therewith Roon is in a > sense integrated with LMS. It has still to be tested whether this > configuration is stable enough. If you use the password function on LMS, will that not eliminate the problem ? R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Roon, a SqueezeBox ecosystem alternative ?
Can I still use iPeng for radio ? If I have understood this right, that is an area where Roon is not up and running. Apart from that, you may use Room instead of LMS and iPeng. Is that a correct observation ? (As a Tidal hi-fi subscriber). R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104044 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Julf wrote: > Of course it *can* be done, if you have the required information (that > seems to be protected by a non-disclosure), but if you do, you are > probably breaking Meridian's licensing terms. I understand that there is > also some form of DRM - breaking that would violate the DMCA. Yes it can't be done by some enthusiast , it must be a commercial agreement of some sort . That cost money so it has to be paid by users in the end , so it's must be a commercially viable plugin . Done by a company . So will Tidal do the plugin either directly via LMS mysqueezebox.com or ickstream and pay the license fee ? As they are the only ones getting any real income ? Or someone else . I don't know if ickstream gets some 0.0001$ for brokering costumer to tidal and deezer etc and if that would suffice to license MQA ? Yes it can be done , someone must just find it worth the effort . It must generate positive income . If the streams can be played anyway without MQA ? Or not ? That would also decide what's worthwhile ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
R1200CL wrote: > So now I hope someone with the right knowlegde investigate if or what is > needed technically in order to implement MQA into a Squeezebox Touch. > > I'm convinced it can be done. I like to hear those deny this from a > technical point of view. Of course it *can* be done, if you have the required information (that seems to be protected by a non-disclosure), but if you do, you are probably breaking Meridian's licensing terms. I understand that there is also some form of DRM - breaking that would violate the DMCA. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Mnyb wrote: > > > I'm with Julf here , why ? > > Unless actually not implementing MQA ( but using some legacy mode and > bypassing it ) makes the service sound worse than the good old 16/44.1 > they seems to want to abandon :( > > I do see the streaming service benefit here ( not us consumers ) it is a > proprietary lossy format with DRM . A FLAC service like tidal > practically broadcast the CD master which makes the paranoid record > companies unhappy . I do understand why streaming services may like the > format . > > You can ofcourse record "off air" as in the good old days , but > reintroduce some generational loss would make some happy . I think you have totally misunderstood what MQA is and offers. You should not tell direct lies like this. MQA is Lossless. No DRM. They do not want to abandon 16/44.1. And all major record companies support MQA, and actually have started the prosess of implementing MQA into their masters. Tidal will support MQA. I'm sure you are able to do a Google search for MQA (you may even limit it to the last week) http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/beyond-high-resolution/ http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f13-music-downloads-and-streaming/tidal-high-res-mqa-news-26734/ I can't understand why you are against implementing MAQ into Squeezebox, or have I misunderstood your post ? I like to use my Tidal hi-fi subscription with MQA on my Squeezebox Touch. (For hi res streaming). I think this is a fair request or ? R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] classicalradio.com
FYI Just now noticing ShoutCast is not working correctly. ShoutCast Genres > *pick any one*, result is "failed to parse". Are you still seeing this? I can browse Genres/Alternative/Britpop/Abacus Beatles just fine. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] new amp suggestions
If anyone has a recommendation for an amp as per OP but with a USB connection to power a Chromecast audio I'd love to hear as well. Giza2020's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104950 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] new amp suggestions
Hi folks. I have a squeezebox classic that was connected to my yamaha mini stereo system. The amp went and I am now looking for a replacement. I only used the input from the squeezebox and not anything else so I do not require anything other than inputs for the squeezebox. I would like to keep the yamaha bookshelf speakers as they are fantastic. 30W drivers. Any suggestions? Something with a small footprint would be great and I do not really care about power consumption. Thanks froth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104950 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] new amp suggestions
I would go for something like this digital amplifier: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121767091695 Martin at *_'HeadSpin_HD' (http://www.headspin.plus.com)_* now on -*Blu-ray-* mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104950 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] new amp suggestions
mooblie wrote: > I would go for something like this digital amplifier: > > www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121767091695 I agree - my dining room system is a raspberry pi driving a pair of TPA3118D2's, and it has worked great. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104950 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
