Re: [slim] CDs rapid Demise
I tend to buy used CDs quite often these days (seldom new ones). I know it's a form of piracy, but it gives me a simple 16/44 flac at an unbeatable price with cover art. The music industry simply shoots itself in the foot again and again. If I was a big label, I'd offer 16/44 download from my website with cover art. ...pablo Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation 14 Pro) running Ubuntu 16.04 + LMS 7.9 System: SB Touch --optical->- Benchmark DAC2HGC --AnalysisPlus Oval Copper XLR->- NAD M22 Power Amp --AnalysisPlus Black Mesh Oval->- Totem Element Fire Other Rooms: 2x SB Boom; 1x SB Radio; 1x SB Classic-> NAD D7050 -> Totem DreamCatcher + Velodyne Minivee Sub Computer audio: workstation --USB->- audioengine D1 -> Grado PS500e/Shure 1540 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] CDs rapid Demise
SlimChances wrote: > Surely there is a much greater cost to produce and ship CDs to stores > than to provide a download Manufacturing cost was was not that much , I would say insignificant. Pennies Maybe more cost in selling in a brick and mortar store with people involved. Most of the price is and was for the immaterial content . That makes 10$ not to bad for a download I pay that when a CD in a store costed more than that a decade ago heck,I paid more 20 years ago, and even today with competition from downloading CDs are often more . CD to sells in more efficient ways mail order from amazon here to you mostly pay for the content . However with sites like Bandcamp and similar there is a very low start cost no glass master ofsett print masks etc to pay for like in a Cd print. So you get a micro economy where an artist can take the risk of releasing even if his independent or does not project huge sales. So I do think roughly 8-10$ is the price for the content . If you want expensive you can buy from HD tracks in so called hirez where they upmarket the price just because thier custommers are willing to pay more for bitinflated content ? Price and manufacturing cost never has simple relationships it never had . With the advent of everything made in China for rough estimates you can say the bill of manufacturing a unit is 0 ( ok say <10% of consumer sticker price ) and price is made up of other costs and risk and development other business costs ( like having a company ) vat and vat and shipping and actually what a market would pay for a thing. Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] CDs rapid Demise
JJZolx wrote: > With CDs you were never really paying for the physical media and > packaging. I recall when CDs first became prevalent, there were claims > that they'd lower the cost of buying albums, but that was never true. > They came out and were actually more expensive than vinyl records. > There's no reason to expect downloads to be much cheaper than CDs. Surely there is a much greater cost to produce and ship CDs to stores than to provide a download Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1518987734 @ Sun Feb 18 22:55:43 CET 2018 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Classic connected by Ethernet to FX Audio D802C amp and Sinclair bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] CDs rapid Demise
SlimChances wrote: > Is $10 a reasonable price for an lossless album download or are we being > ripped off. I would think the costs of producing and distributing an > album for download are far lower than the costs of yesteryear. With CDs you were never really paying for the physical media and packaging. I recall when CDs first became prevalent, there were claims that they'd lower the cost of buying albums, but that was never true. They came out and were actually more expensive than vinyl records. There's no reason to expect downloads to be much cheaper than CDs. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] CDs rapid Demise
I am not sad to see the CD go I just wish there was better availability of music downloads at reasonable prices. Is $10 a reasonable price for an lossless album download or are we being ripped off. I would think the costs of producing and distributing an album for download are far lower than the costs of yesteryear. Despite the quote below I don't have much use for vinyl. Vinyl is written in stone. I think if its made it for 120 years now, its here forever. Thats a beautiful thing to think about. Jack White https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/owning-music-buying-vinyl-cds-downloads-streaming-w521504 Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1518987734 @ Sun Feb 18 22:55:43 CET 2018 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi One SB Touch connected by Ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers SB Classic connected by Ethernet to FX Audio D802C amp and Sinclair bookshelf speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109154 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox and eero: a marriage made you know where
I'm using ubiquity unifi stuff, no problems with SB2, radio and boom. *SqueezeBoxes:* 2x SB2 (Living room and study), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Bedroom) *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, D-Link Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105824 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
