Re: [slim] Spotify to offer Lossless Streaming
bernt wrote: > Dont know. Its a discussion about it on two different swedish hifi > forums right now. > > > Skickat från min iPhone med TapatalkMaybe Spotify are testing lossless > streaming in Sweden. Don't the discussions say how they know the bitrate? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify to offer Lossless Streaming
slartibartfast wrote: > Maybe Spotify are testing lossless streaming in Sweden. Don't the > discussions say how they know the bitrate? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk It shows in the Dac display. Some say it sound better, some have captured the stream and compared it with Tidal and so on. SB Touch optical to Hegel H90, Speakers Larsen 4.2 Spare SB3 AirPlay Bridge to Audio Pro A10 Squeezelite-x connected to home LMS with ZeroTier One. SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify to offer Lossless Streaming
bernt wrote: > It shows in the Dac display. Some say it sound better, some have > captured the stream and compared it with Tidal and so on.Do you have a link > to the thread? I can try Google translate [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify to offer Lossless Streaming
slartibartfast wrote: > Do you have a link to the thread? I can try Google translate [emoji3] > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk https://www.faktiskt.io/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=71930 SB Touch optical to Hegel H90, Speakers Larsen 4.2 Spare SB3 AirPlay Bridge to Audio Pro A10 Squeezelite-x connected to home LMS with ZeroTier One. SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify to offer Lossless Streaming
bernt wrote: > https://www.faktiskt.io/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=71930Thanks. Interesting > thread (Google translate worked perfectly [emoji3]). The only evidence there appears to be that someone downloaded some files from Spotify and Qobuz etc and they appeared to be the same. Nobody actually saw the information on their DAC as far as I can tell. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wanted Transporter
here you go https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Logitech-Slim-Devices-Transporter/203347390304?hash=item2f5872ef60:g:Q8wAAOSwz0Zgda8x PiCorePlayer 7.1 on Allo Digi One Signaturewith (Lounge) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with pi official touchscreen and hifiberry Dig+ (Office) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with pi official touchscreen and hifiberry DAC+(Kitchen) Radio (Bedroom) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with pi official touchscreen and USB DAC (Bedroom) Squeezelite=x (Garage) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2) PiCorePlayer 7.1 with hifiberry AMP+(Patio 2) LMS 8.1 on DIY Unraid 6 Server (i5) Squeeze user since the SB1 markiii's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify to offer Lossless Streaming
slartibartfast wrote: > Thanks. Interesting thread (Google translate worked perfectly [emoji3]). > The only evidence there appears to be that someone downloaded some files > from Spotify and Qobuz etc and they appeared to be the same. Nobody > actually saw the information on their DAC as far as I can tell. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk This is from a Facebook group. You need to be a member I think. https://www.facebook.com/groups/846387368736533/permalink/5351118688263356/ 34194 +---+ |Filename: 172723779_1843571699125420_2364705636668594366_n.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34194| +---+ SB Touch optical to Hegel H90, Speakers Larsen 4.2 Spare SB3 AirPlay Bridge to Audio Pro A10 Squeezelite-x connected to home LMS with ZeroTier One. SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify to offer Lossless Streaming
bernt wrote: > This is from a Facebook group. You need to be a member I think. > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/846387368736533/permalink/5351118688263356/ > > 34194I see. It wasn't April 1st was it? [emoji1787]. I wonder why Spotify would stream PCM rather than FLAC. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify to offer Lossless Streaming
slartibartfast wrote: > I see. It wasn't April 1st was it? [emoji1787]. I wonder why Spotify > would stream PCM rather than FLAC. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Haha! Maybe it was. Looks like the post is two weeks late in that case. SB Touch optical to Hegel H90, Speakers Larsen 4.2 Spare SB3 AirPlay Bridge to Audio Pro A10 Squeezelite-x connected to home LMS with ZeroTier One. SB Radio ReadyNAS 202 iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114009 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
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Re: [slim] SB1 and 24bit flacs, how to configure LMS to downsample to 16-bit?
Try incorporating that FLAC decode step into your conversion. I think
the contents of your custom-convert.conf would look something like
this:
Code:
flc pcm * 00:00:00:00:00:00
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
[flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t wav -b 16 -r
44100 -
Or
Code:
flc pcm * 00:00:00:00:00:00
# FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
[flac] -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed $START$
$END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t wav -b 16 -r 44100 -
It's been a while and that may not be right, so you may need to
experiment. The "00:00:00:00:00:00" should be replaced with the MAC
address of your SB1.
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Re: [slim] SB1 and 24bit flacs, how to configure LMS to downsample to 16-bit?
wildgoose wrote: > But it doesn't seem to be taking effect at all. when I stream it always > seem to run the command: What are you trying to play. What is the source. Different rules can apply to different sources ? >From convert.conf Code: # # Capabilities # I - can transcode from stdin # F - can transcode from a named file # R - can transcode from a remote URL (URL types unspecified) What format have you designated for your custom rules ? Show your full custom-convert.conf file as leading space are also significant. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114382 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech is done making Harmony remotes
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Re: [slim] SB1 and 24bit flacs, how to configure LMS to downsample to 16-bit?
bpa wrote:
> What are you trying to play. What is the source.
>
> What format have you designated for your custom rules ?
>
> Show your full custom-convert.conf file as leading space are also
> significant.
>
> edit: Confirm your custom rule have been processed by looking at
> Settings/Filetypes.
I am trying to play a 24bit flac file on my squeezebox v1.
When I stream regular 16bit 44.1k flac to my sb1 (which plays it
perfectly fine), PiCorePlayer (htop) shows a flac decoding process, so
likely the sb1 does not have native flac capability, so LMS decodes and
sends it the PCM/wav file. When a 24bit flac is played, I only hear
hiss. So the sb1 cannot handle 24bit PCM audio.
I want to down sample all 24bit flac -> 16bit flac @ 44.1Khz.
The custom-convert.conf I tried are
Code:
# my custom flac to wav converter for sb1
flc pcm * *
# IFB:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
[sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t wav -b 16 -r 44100 -
#flc pcm * *
# [flac] -dcs --totally-silent $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav
- -t wav -b 16 --buffer 8192 - rate -v -I -b 90.7 -f 44100
Neither block works. I don't see 'sox' process being kicked off on the
LMS server. Only the default flac decoding process being kicked off.
Apesbrain wrote:
> Try incorporating that FLAC decode step into your conversion. I think
> the contents of your custom-convert.conf would look something like
> this:
>
> >
Code:
> > flc pcm * 00:00:00:00:00:00
> # FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
> [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t wav -b 16 -r
44100 -
>
> >
>
> Or
>
> >
Code:
> > flc pcm * 00:00:00:00:00:00
> # FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}
> [flac] -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed $START$
$END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t wav -b 16 -r 44100 -
>
> >
>
> It's been a while and that may not be right, so you may need to
> experiment. The "00:00:00:00:00:00" should be replaced with the MAC
> address of your SB1.
I initially tried my SB1's mac, but after not having the setting take
effect at all, I simply changed it to "* *", even commenting out the
equivalent block in convert.conf. Still I never saw sox process being
kicked off.
I did verify on the command line (on the PCP server) that the sox
command does transcode the 24bit flac file to a 16/44.1 flac file. So in
theory the sox and sox command alone should be enough. I don't need to
have flac decode the stream as WAV to stdout, and pipe it to sox.
But I also tried using both flac/sox, as above. Also didn't work.
I did notice later in Settings / Advanced / File Types, I have 2 entries
under FLAC, so this means the custom-convert.conf file is being
processed.
Just not sure why it did not do what the file says it need to do.
Nothing interesting in LMS log either. How do I debug this further or
enable more logging?
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Re: [slim] SB1 and 24bit flacs, how to configure LMS to downsample to 16-bit?
wildgoose wrote:
> I am trying to play a 24bit flac file on my squeezebox v1.
>
> When I stream regular 16bit 44.1k flac to my sb1 (which plays it
> perfectly fine), PiCorePlayer (htop) shows a flac decoding process, so
> likely the sb1 does not have native flac capability, so LMS decodes and
> sends it the PCM/wav file. When a 24bit flac is played, I only hear
> hiss. So the sb1 cannot handle 24bit PCM audio.
>
> I want to down sample all 24bit flac -> 16bit flac @ 44.1Khz.
>
> The custom-convert.conf I tried are
>
> >
Code:
> >
> #flc pcm * [SB1-MAC]
> # # IFD:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
> # [sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t wav -b 16 -r 44100 -
>
> flc pcm * [SB1-MAC]
> # IFT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
> [flac] -dcs --totally-silent $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav
- -t wav -b 16 -r 44100 -
>
> >
>
> Neither block works. I don't see 'sox' process being kicked off on the
> LMS server. Only the default flac decoding process being kicked off:
>
> /USR/LOCAL/SLIMSERVER/BIN/ARMHF-LINUX/FLAC -DCS --FORCE-RAW-FORMAT
> --ENDIAN=BIG --SIGN=SIGNED -- -
>
> Note this one does not have --totally-silent as I had above. So it is
> somehow still using the default settings in convert.conf.
>
> Yes I do see the new entry in Settings / Advanced / File Types, so the
> rule is being read.
>
>
>
> I did verify on the command line (on the PCP server) that the sox
> command does transcode the 24bit flac file to a 16/44.1 wav file. So
> in theory the sox and sox command alone should be enough. I don't need
> to have flac decode the stream as WAV to stdout, and pipe it to sox.
>
> But I also tried using both flac/sox, as above. Also didn't work.
>
> Just not sure why it did not do what the file says it need to do.
> Nothing interesting in LMS log either. How do I debug this further or
> enable more logging?
You should really attach here your full convert.conf and
custom-convert.conf. Then after that set "player.source" logging to
debug, it will be very verbose but will give us a good idea. I modified
a lot the transcoding rules in LMS 8+ and I probably have left issues.
LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet,
1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000,
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Re: [slim] SB1 and 24bit flacs, how to configure LMS to downsample to 16-bit?
Enabled player.source debugging.
Saw this when playing 24bit flac. Looks like it's picking AIF path...
Code:
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5509] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (264)
Checking formats for: flc-aif-*-*
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5520] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (231)
Checking to see if flc-aif-*-* is enabled
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5531] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (272)
enabled
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5541] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (274)
Found command: [flac] -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=big --sign=signed
$START$ $END$ -- $FILE$
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5559] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2
(488) Matched: flc->aif via: [flac] -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=big
--sign=signed $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5588] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (264)
Checking formats for: flc-aif-*-*
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5599] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (231)
Checking to see if flc-aif-*-* is enabled
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5609] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (272)
enabled
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5619] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (274)
Found command: [flac] -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=big --sign=signed
$START$ $END$ -- $FILE$
[21-04-15 23:20:50.5636] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2
(488) Matched: flc->aif via: [flac] -dcs --force-raw-format --endian=big
--sign=signed $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$
It now make sense why my "flc pcm" rule is not being used..
Briefly changed my rule to "flc aif", and I see the processing being
invoked, but it didn't work (still hiss, but a different kind of hiss)
Code:
flc aif * XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
# IFD:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
[sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t wav -b 16 -r 44100 -
Will play with it more tomorrow.
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