Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread bakker_be


bpa wrote: 
> Same here. 
> 
> The odd part is they didn't seem to define "byte" - because there used
> to be ambiguity, many network protocol standards used the term "octet"
> for a 8 bit quantity.

In French that's even the official word (at least in France it is).



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Re: [slim] ๐Ÿ˜ข My Squeezebox Classic ๐Ÿ˜’

2022-03-08 Thread notechyet


bpa wrote: 
> Since it was cold and no light - I'd try a new 3rd party PSU first -
> just make sure you get the right voltage with enough amps. The wrong
> voltage will fry the SB beyond repair.

Thanks @bpa
Can you get 3party new stuff for this unit?
As the world situation is now It may take 3-6months to arrive from
Europe. Bank statement of a little travel savings acc. from Europe takes
3 months. I might try Aussie Ebay.



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> In more than 20 years since then I have never heard anyone use those
> terms.

Same here. 

The odd part is they didn't seem to define "byte" - because there used
to be ambiguity, many network protocol standards used the term "octet"
for a 8 bit quantity.



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread slartibartfast


ftlight wrote: 
> Since December 1998: kibi, mebi, gibi, tebi, pebi, exbi, zebi, yobi
> 
> https://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.htmlIn more than 20 years since 
> then I have never heard anyone use those
terms.

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Re: [slim] ๐Ÿ˜ข My Squeezebox Classic ๐Ÿ˜’

2022-03-08 Thread bpa


notechyet wrote: 
> Tried another one and the cable works as I tested though no sign of the
> unit showing any twinkle of live. By the way, I know why it felt warm
> the other day. It was on top of another warm item.

Since it was cold and no light - I'd try a new 3rd party PSU first -
just make sure you get the right voltage with enough amps. The wrong
voltage will fry the SB beyond repair.



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread ftlight


bakker_be wrote: 
> Well, ... According to the SI the drive manufacturers are actually using
> the term correctly ;) https://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/prefixes.html

Since December 1998: kibi, mebi, gibi, tebi, pebi, exbi, zebi, yobi

https://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html



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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread mark wollschlager


philippe_44 wrote: 
> Yes it has always been my base for developing squeezeesp32 software

And the current release seems pretty stable.
I guess I meant 'step version' of the device, if they do incremental
changes in the product.
I don't develop or play with these so I don't keep up with that sort of
thing.
Your device is wonderful as a player.



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread Redrum


Paul Webster wrote: 
> and I have one of those drives sitting in a PDP 11/83 in my lounge!
> 

wow! I leaned assembler in university on one of those. Right about the
same time I was feeding punch cards to a CDC6600 (60 bit word) hoping my
Fortran program would run:o

Jim



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Re: [slim] ๐Ÿ˜ข My Squeezebox Classic ๐Ÿ˜’

2022-03-08 Thread notechyet


philippe_44 wrote: 
> I have a few fixed Classics that I offer in exchange of the broken one

Thanks for the offer @philippe_44๐Ÿ™
I'd love to get another one though live in NZ, so would have to checkout
postage.
It is possibly the best electronic gadget I ever had, excluding mobile
phones๐Ÿ˜Š Just a bit lost now without the Classic๐Ÿ˜ข



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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread philippe_44


mark wollschlager wrote: 
> Is the base ESP32 the same? Just curious, the one I have is weak in the
> wifi department ( within 5m of the access point ). It rarely has better
> than 80% signal strength according to LMS.

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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread mark wollschlager


Is the base ESP32 the same? Just curious, the one I have is weak in the
wifi department ( within 5m of the access point ). It rarely has better
than 80% signal strength according to LMS.



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread Paul Webster


I used to use 8-inch ones on PDPs ... RX01 and RX02.
They had a cartridge tape drive as well ... TK50/TK70 ... and I have one
of those drives sitting in a PDP 11/83 in my lounge!
Most would not know it was there as it is covered with a cloth and the
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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I never used 8" disks but we did use zip disks
You have to be ancient to remember them - they were used for IBM 360's
microcode and v. early word processors (e.g. Diamond, Wang) 

> Does anyone still have a zip drive?
Not any more  - didn't use them much as they seemed a bit too much
hit/miss.  Later ones were a bit better with QIC tapes.



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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread philippe_44

Julf wrote: 
> I would be interested in 2, but is shipping from Canada? I am in the
> Netherlands...

Yes, shipping can be done anywhere, itย’s always around 10USD



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> The anecdotes at the time tell of people who took off the "packaging" to
> get to the floppy disk and then tried to put it into their Mac but
> couldn't as they were too floppy.
> 8" and 5.25" were real floppy disks.I never used 8" disks but we did use zip 
> disks. Does anyone still have a
zip drive?

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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread Julf


I would be interested in 2, but is shipping from Canada? I am in the
Netherlands...



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread bpa


Grumpy Bob wrote: 
> They were floppy inside the hard plastic sleeve!

The anecdotes at the time tell of people who took off the "packaging" to
get to the floppy disk and then tried to put it into their Mac but
couldn't as they were too floppy.
8" and 5.25" were real floppy disks.



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread Grumpy Bob


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I did hesitate before writing floppy [emoji1787]
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

They were floppy inside the hard plastic sleeve!

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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> Even worse those floppy disk weren't even floppy anymore unlike the
> 5.25" ones !!I did hesitate before writing floppy [emoji1787]

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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> To confuse things even more 1.44MB Floppy discs were not 1.44 megabytes
> or 1.44 mebibytes but 1440 kebibytes 
Even worse those floppy disk weren't even floppy anymore unlike the
5.25" ones !!



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread slartibartfast


bpa wrote: 
> I thought a computer megabyte (1024x1024) used to be written as MB and a
> kilobyte 1024 as KB to distinguish from SI kilo=1,000 but I think people
> became careless with notation as PCs were used by "ordinary" people (and
> maybe consumer protection demanded "correct" numbering) .
> 
> Of course historically a byte were just the unit of manipulation and in
> 1960s-70s could be anything from 6 bits to 9 bits and computer words
> were 12bits to 36bits wide.
> Disks for PDP-10 such as an RP06 had its capacity measured in Megawords
> when a word was 36 bits wide.To confuse things even more 1.44MB Floppy discs 
> were not 1.44 megabytes
or 1.44 mebibytes but 1440 kebibytes [emoji2]

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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread bpa


Guessed there had to be lawsuit somewhere to force this issue.
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/flashdrives.pdf



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread bpa


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Maybe now but historically a Megabyte was 1024 Kilobytes and a Kilobyte
> was 1024 bytes. 

I thought a computer megabyte (1024x1024) used to be written as MB and a
kilobyte 1024 as KB to distinguish from SI kilo=1,000 but I think people
became careless with notation as PCs were used by "ordinary" people (and
maybe consumer protection demanded "correct" numbering) .

Of course historically a byte were just the unit of manipulation and in
1960s-70s could be anything from 6 bits to 9 bits and computer words
were 12bits to 36bits wide.
Disks for PDP-10 such as an RP06 had its capacity measured in Megawords
when a word was 36 bits wide.



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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread pufnstuf


I would love to buy one please. Non-battery version.

Thanks @philippe_44



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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread Redrum

philippe_44 wrote: 
> Iย’m ready to redo another batch.[/IMG]

wow, I'm sure it's not because you found extra idle time :). You are a
brave man Philippe!

I just wish I needed one, I bought 2 more than I need last time!...I'll
think about it :) Paul has the right idea tho..

Do you want responders to send you an email to sque*** like last time?

Jim



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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread Yatsushiro


+1 for the full fat version.



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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread slartibartfast


bakker_be wrote: 
> Well, ... According to the SI the drive manufacturers are actually using
> the term correctly ;) https://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/prefixes.htmlMaybe 
> now but historically a Megabyte was 1024 Kilobytes and a Kilobyte
was 1024 bytes. Just like a billion now is 1000 million when in the UK
at least it used to be a million million. Really a million dollars
should be a Megadollar and a billion a Gigadollar to prevent confusion
[emoji1787]

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Re: [slim] MB Vs MiB

2022-03-08 Thread bakker_be


slartibartfast wrote: 
> While looking at memory usage in top and htop I couldn't figure out why
> they showed different numbers. It turns out top uses MiB (Mebibytes) and
> htop uses MB (Megabytes). 
> I was totally ignorant of Mebibytes and they seem to be exactly what I
> thought a Megabyte used to be before drive manufacturers decided to
> redefine a Megabyte as 1000 kB ( and presumably a kB as 1000 bytes) so
> their drives appeared to be bigger [emoji2].
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?

2022-03-08 Thread Paul Webster


I'll go for 1 please (battery power not needed) and will foist it on a
family member who does not yet understand why they need to be converted
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