Re: [slim] What would it take? (reciva thread)
andyg;257735 Wrote: > Any radio directoy such as Reciva could be implemented similar to > RadioTime, it's just a simple hierarchical listing of radio stations. It is simple, but the Reciva implementation is far more convincing than the current mish-mash of radio directories available on my Squeezeboxes. I can't help but think that Slim Devices/ Logitech are missing a trick here: have they actually sampled Reciva radios to see what exactly they do and how easily they do it? Certainly the UK market for internet radio devices appears to be building some real mass-market momentum. And of course radios using the Reciva platform can also stream the content of a media library just like Squeezebox. The popular Roberts WM-201 even plays FLAC, in addition to packing an alarm clock, remote control, wi-fi/ ethernet connectivity and decent stereo amplification with iPod inputs and so on. It typically sells for no more than the cost of a Squeezebox yet appears to offer the mass-market consumer so much more. -- sixofone sixofone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40957 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wi-Fi Internet Clock Radio?
ModelCitizen;249309 Wrote: > > > It doesn't have a remote does it? > > Yes it does. Check out the full spec and download a manual here: http://www.sangean.com/product.php?model=WFR-20&prod_id=42 -- sixofone sixofone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40983 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wi-Fi Internet Clock Radio?
Well, to these ears the Roberts WM-201 sounds pretty good. It has two decent-sized full range drivers in a solid, bass-ported cabinet. I would say that it's at least the equal of a Tivoli Model One. The Reciva-based internet radio functionality is in many respects superior to what Squeezebox offers and the alarm works very well. There are 4 independent alarm programs. The display is a backlit LCD measuring about 3x1 inches. This shows 3 lines of scrolling text when the radio's on, or a giant-sized digital readout of the time when in standby. Brightness levels are fully adjustable. As a media player it has limitations when compared to a Squeezebox, though I've found it to be perfectly serviceable as a bedside device in this role (EyeConnect is my upnp media server of choice). To be honest, I use the Roberts far more that my Squeezeboxes simply because it's somehow more. convenient, I guess. It's also sold in the US as the Sangean WFR-20. -- sixofone sixofone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40983 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I don't understand RadioTime. Help please.
My point is that as a means of browsing internet radio by genre RadioTime on Squeezebox doesn't appear to work. Not that Shoutcast/ Live365 are much better (hopeless navigation, poor quality streams often preferred, annoying adds for Shoutcast/ Live 365, etc). This is an area in which Squeezebox is falling behind competitors - take a look at RadioRoku or the Reciva-based devices for example. What is needed is a single, well-organised, comprehensive internet radio directory that users can contribute to and which is capable of being fully browsed using the remote control. -- sixofone sixofone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] I don't understand RadioTime. Help please.
I'm trying to browse RadioTime by genre. So e.g. I select Browse Music>Classical and 12 stations are listed. But I can also select Browse Music>More music>Classical>All whereupon 20 stations are listed. Neither of which bears much relation to the RadioTime website, where a full 339 stations are listed in the Classical genre. What do I have to do to see the complete 339 station listing on my Squeezebox? -- sixofone sixofone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New (Logitech) Squeezebox
jeffmeh;209043 Wrote: > The company will either see increased margins or they will be able to > reduce prices to better consumers and improve their competitive > position. Lower consumer prices benefit all consumers, and the > macroeconomics generally indicate that that outweighs the losses of the > displaced workers (of course, that's little consolation to someone who > cannot find employment). The overseas employees obviously benefit. > Higher profits benefit the stockholders, whose primary reason for > investing their capital is to get a return. > > The suggestion that a person in country A is more deserving of a job > than another in country B is not only ignorant of economics, but is > also ethically bankrupt. Get real. The motive for offshoring production to low cost countries i.e. China - is to increase profit. The myth of the virtuous circle you describe is exploded by even the most superficial research. For example, take this article (in which our Logitech friends rate a mention): http://www.asianresearch.org/articles/3054.html A 1000% plus mark-up per Chinese-made computer mouse? 15-hour working days to earn less, per month, than an equivalent US worker would earn in two hours? A 20% incidence of industrial disease/ injury, with no sickness benefits and no viable rights of redress? Chinese factory workers arent being uplifted economically, or in any other sense. Theyre being exploited more rapaciously than has ever been tolerated at any time in any Western society. And Im afraid the idea that its a choice between factory work producing goods for the West and no job at all is simply a false dilemma. Again, just five minutes of Googling will afford some insight into the complexities of the Chinese labour market and the immense social and human cost of the current enforced migration of workers from farm to factory. Try this for starters: http://news.amnesty.org/index/ENGASA170092007 -- sixofone sixofone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35899 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New (Logitech) Squeezebox
killie99;208852 Wrote: > > I think you're playing with semantics regarding whether something is > "manufactured" or "assembled" and if you ask 100 people what they think > that means you'll get a stack of different answers. Maybe so. I claim no expertise in anything quite as useful as electronics manufacturing or the law of product marking, sadly. As an English graduate I suppose semantics is more my turf and there's a clear distinction in my mind between "making" a thing and "assembling" it (OED: assemble - fit together the parts of). I'd like to think I'm not excessively naïve about electronics manufacturing in the global economy: God knows I own enough "Made in China" Apple products. Nor, as a UK national, am I banging any patriotic drum. It's just that when researching the Squeezebox I'm sure I came across articles emphasising the in-house (USA-based) manufacturing operation. I suppose I equated that with a certain ethical standard and to my way of thinking that was part of the attraction in the product. I like the idea of buying stuff from smart guys trying to do things the right way on a small scale. That romantic idealism goes a long way in my mind to justifying a price premium (US equivalent circa $375 per SB, and yes I know some of that's UK VAT). -- sixofone sixofone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35899 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New (Logitech) Squeezebox
The labelling may well have complied with the strict letter of the law; however it would appear that the USA "manufacturing" operation amounted to no more than screwing circuit boards made in China into cases. In other words the product was, in dictionary terms, being assembled in the USA. This is a distinction that many manufacturers choose to make plain with the tag: "Assembled in..". The fact that Slim chose not to do likewise suggests an intent to obscure the true origins of the product. -- sixofone sixofone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35899 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New (Logitech) Squeezebox
Im sufficiently irked to register and post to this form for the first (and probably last) time. You see I was under the impression that the words Designed and manufactured in Mountain View, California, USA meant just that. Whereas it now appears that the principal component of both my S3s was actually manufactured in China. Am I alone in finding that a little .well, disingenuous? Theres no need for me to argue the economic and ethical rights and wrongs of such a production model in such well-educated company. Nor do I need to point out that, for some of us, the considerations of how and at what (human) cost a product is produced are factors in the purchasing decision. The fact that Slim Devices chose to slap the Designed and manufactured tag on in the first place shows just how well-attuned they were to such sensitivities. Enjoy counting the cash, Slim/ Logitech people. Try not to think to hard about that new, faraway workforce. Or the old manufacturing assembly staff a little neare to home who had to be let go. -- sixofone sixofone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35899 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
