Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-09 Thread CardinalFang

barrygordon;179029 Wrote: 
 
 The only major issues reported are a failure when slim server is not
 running on a Windows system (I feel this is a Slim Server issue as it
 crashes with certain CLI sequences) and an issue with displaying
 diacritical marks in UTF-8
 Feedback appreciated.

I built a Java interface to SlimServer and had crashes on my Mac system
during the CLI albums command. I fixed it by updating the Perl Encode
module using CPAN, the fix was somewhere else on this site, so I can't
claim to have found the solution myself :-)

You might try this:

Open a terminal and then type:
-
sudo cpan
force install Encode
-
You may be asked for a password, also I found that my default
installation didn't have make set up. If you get errors during the
build of the type --- NOT OK-, then type -o conf- at the cpan prompt.
If make isn't defined, try typing the following:
-
o conf make /usr/bin/make
-
and try running the install again.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-09 Thread aubuti

barrygordon;179029 Wrote: 
 The only major issues reported are a failure when slim server is not
 running on a Windows system (I feel this is a Slim Server issue as it
 crashes with certain CLI sequences) and an issue with displaying
 diacritical marks in UTF-8
 Feedback appreciated.
I was having crash problems on my debian-based Buffalo LinkStation, but
after upgrading the perl to 5.8.8 I've got FatGooey running okay. The
extended Latin characters (like c cedille) are still mucked up. I look
forward to playing around with this. 

Pretty nice having FatGooey and the very nice slimfx skin come out
within days of each other!


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-08 Thread barrygordon

I have added some features to enable Playlist construction and fixed
some bugs.  The current version is at my web site
(www.the-gordons.net).  There is now an expand command to expand any
library listing (eg artists) down to songs so they can be selectively
added to the playlist.

Ther is also now a screensaver that is a standard windows screensaver
that will show you what is currently playing.  In addition if the
player is off it displays the cover art stored in the library as
thumbnails.

The only major issues reported are a failure when slim server is not
running on a Windows system (I feel this is a Slim Server issue as it
crashes with certain CLI sequences) and an issue with displaying
diacritical marks in UTF-8
Feedback appreciated.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-04 Thread ceejay

Hello

One question and one suggestion:

- would someone like to comment in a compare and contrast sort of way
how this compares with Moose, which superficially does the same thing?

- Barry: if/when you think this is ready for general use you might want
to list it at
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?PluginRemoteControls

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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-04 Thread barrygordon

ceejay;177449 Wrote: 
 Hello
 
 One question and one suggestion:
 
 - would someone like to comment in a compare and contrast sort of way
 how this compares with Moose, which superficially does the same thing?
 
 - Barry: if/when you think this is ready for general use you might want
 to list it at
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?PluginRemoteControls
 
 Ceejay

I did not know about Moose although it was mentioned to me.  I will ist
it as you suggest in a couple of days.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-04 Thread Skunk

Barry,

Like I said it seems to fit well within your home automation system, so
I don't want you to change anything on my account.

If art and drag/drop are easy to implement I think it would enhance the
user experience, but then again if you're standing up (next to a wall
that the screen is located on) I doubt you'd want to edit playlists or
view all your album covers. Maybe a good compromise would be to show
the currently playing artwork where browse is located, and have a
seperate button for browsing title .

I would love to be able to run this on a windows CE tablet (SH4
processor), because of it's lack of support for 802.11g wireless. Do
you have any idea of the system requirements other than windows OS?

Ceejay, I think of Gooey as more of a kiosk type home automation
application, whereas moose is more of a full featured application. One
is to use when standing up, the other while sitting with your laptop on
the couch.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-04 Thread barrygordon

Skunk et al.,

FAT Gooey is completely separate from my Home Automation system.  They
just have a lot of code in common (the main TCP/IP code and command
handling)  The program should run on anything that runs VB6.  That is
what it is written in.  It needs the socket controls from
Windows/System and some others most of which may be in Win CE.

I did not do Drag drop but I have implemented something that should
meet your needs (see Expand in the new version I just posted).  When
I do the screen saver it will basically look like the top frame, plus a
copy of the artwork floating around the screen. That is how it appears
in my HT so I have most of the code.

The new version makes a lot of cosmetic changes, eliminates the use of
the font Arial Narrow (Uses Arial).  I may go back to Arial Narrow
but set all of the text boxes to be sized for Arial since if Windows
can not find Arial Narrow it uses Arial. It adds a command called
expand which will expand a selected artist, album or Genre to a song
list for movement of individual songs to the Cureent Play list.  The
Library list now allows for multiple selections (shift for range
selection and control for item select/deselect) to simplify Add.

Let me know what you think


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[slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread barrygordon

I was not sure where to put this so I decided to try here.  

I just finished a program which provides a Windows Graphical interface
to control players connected to Slim Server.  The program communicates
only with Slim Server and does not communicate with any player. It is
reasonably fast with what I consider to be a rich interface.  others
may disagree.  I am not a graphic artist.

The program has been tested on a network with two players (Transporter
and Squeezebox)running under Windows XP Pro SP2.  There is no reason
why it should not run on any Windows system as it uses no XP specific
capabilities.  The program is fully documented and is available both as
a full installation package and a set of files. 

The program resides on my web site www.the-gordons.net. Seek and Ye
Shall Find.  Feedback and comments appreciated.  Please - READ THE
DOCUMENTATION.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Mark Lanctot

Barry:

I'm very pleased to see you went ahead with this!  I can't wait to try
it out.

For those that didn't see this, Barry released a very interesting
testing application here:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31858

It seemed to be very fast and felt like the native Windows app that
lots of people have been asking for.

If you're one of those that have asked for a native windows app, this
is could be a good beginning.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Nostromo

Good. I'll try it. Love the name, BTW. Fat Gooey :)


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Skunk

Hi Barry.  

Using Win2k with zone alarm firewall, I'm not able to get past
Initialization due to:
2/3 19:26:15 TCP Socket Error Fired
* Connection is forcefully rejected; SocketState=9 (Error)

Same result with Zone alarm off.

Sorry if it's covered elswhere or a basic networking ?.

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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting Skunk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 
 Hi Barry.  
 
 Using Win2k with zone alarm firewall, I'm not able to get past
 Initialization due to:
 2/3 19:26:15 TCP Socket Error Fired
 * Connection is forcefully rejected; SocketState=9 (Error)
 

Exact same error here, no firewalls involved.

Slimserver running on a separate Linux box.
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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread barrygordon

Skunk;177376 Wrote: 
 Hi Barry.  
 
 Using Win2k with zone alarm firewall, I'm not able to get past
 Initialization due to:
 2/3 19:26:15 TCP Socket Error Fired
 * Connection is forcefully rejected; SocketState=9 (Error)
 
 Same result with Zone alarm off.
 
 Sorry if it's covered elswhere or a basic networking ?.
 
 Thanks, and great work- in advance!

SkunK,

That message says that the server refused the connection.  Please check
the ini file server IP address to ensure that it is correct. I am
assuming you changed the IP address in the file to yours.

In my world, all of the equipment is on my side of the firewall, NAT.
If you can get to the slim server from you players and they are on the
same network as the app, we have a stumper. The CLI port is 9090 your
host of SLIM Server must have that port available to be connected to.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread barrygordon

To the fellows having problems: Did you download the installation
package or just the files.  I just took a look and the installation
package includes a couple of programs for Windows that I thought were
on every system but perhaps not.  In particular:

mswinsck.ocx
SocketX.OCX

which have to do with socket operations.  

If you did not try the installation version please do and let me know
if that solves the problem.  If you did use the installation version
then I need to do more homework.

Once an installation is done, then updates can just be of the exe.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Skunk

barrygordon;177381 Wrote: 
 
 The CLI port is 9090 your host of SLIM Server must have that port
 available to be connected to.
Sorry about that, I forgot I disabled the plugin for CLI.  It is
opening now. 

After initializing, the player shows the correct song info but fails to
update new songs. It seems the duration continues past the actual
duration of the song rather than updating at completion or using the
skip button. The log sees the change immediately. I can PM you another
snippet and screenshot if you'd like.

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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting barrygordon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 
 To the fellows having problems: Did you download the installation
 package or just the files.  I just took a look and the installation
 package includes a couple of programs for Windows that I thought were
 on every system but perhaps not.  In particular:
 
 mswinsck.ocx
 SocketX.OCX
 
 which have to do with socket operations.  
 
 If you did not try the installation version please do and let me know
 if that solves the problem.  If you did use the installation version
 then I need to do more homework.

I used the installation program - what's more concerning is that Slimserver
dies after trying to start Fat Gooey.  I discovered this when I tried to
telnet to the CLI port from my windows machine - I couldn't connect because
slimserver was dead.  Restarted it, restarted Fat Gooey, and slimserver died
again.

Here's the bottom of the Fat Gooey log:
2/3 20:06:03 SQZ Sending player count ?, Timer set to 0
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket SendProgress Fired: * Bytes Sent=15;  Data
Sent=70, 6C, 61, 79, 65, 72, 20, 63, 6F, 75, 6E, 74, 20, 3F, 0A;
SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket SendComplete Fired; SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket SendComplete Fired: * Data Sent=70, 6C, 61, 79,
65, 72, 20, 63, 6F, 75, 6E, 74, 20, 3F, 0A; SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket DataArrival Fired: * Byte Count = 15; Data
Rcvd=70, 6C, 61, 79, 65, 72, 20, 63, 6F, 75, 6E, 74, 20, 33, 0A;
SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket Data Rcvd=player count 3
2/3 20:06:03 SQZ Received: player count 3
2/3 20:06:03 SQZ Received: 
2/3 20:06:03 SQZ Player count is 3
2/3 20:06:03 SQZ Sending players 0 1, Timer set to 0
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket SendProgress Fired: * Bytes Sent=12;  Data
Sent=70, 6C, 61, 79, 65, 72, 73, 20, 30, 20, 31, 0A; SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket SendComplete Fired; SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket SendComplete Fired: * Data Sent=70, 6C, 61, 79,
65, 72, 73, 20, 30, 20, 31, 0A; SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket DataArrival Fired: * Byte Count = 191; Data
Rcvd=70, 6C, 61, 79, 65, 72, 73, 20, 30, 20, 31, 20, 63, 6F, 75, 6E, 74, 25,
33, 41, 33, 20, 70, 6C, 61, 79, 65, 72, 69, 6E, 64, 65, 78, 25, 33, 41, 30,
20, 70, 6C, 61, 79, 65, 72, 69, 64, 25, 33, 41, 30, 30, 25, 33, 41, 30, 34,
25, 33, 41, 32, 30, 25, 33, 41, 30, 35, 25, 33, 41, 61, 36, 25, 33, 41, 35,
30, 20, 69, 70, 25, 33, 41, 31, 39, 32, 2E, 31, 36, 38, 2E, 30, 2E, 31, 33,
33, 25, 33, 41, 32, 31, 35, 34, 34, 20, 6E, 61, 6D, 65, 25, 33, 41, 4B, 69,
74, 63, 68, 65, 6E, 2D, 42, 61, 63, 6B, 79, 61, 72, 64, 20, 6D, 6F, 64, 65,
6C, 25, 33, 41, 73, 71, 75, 65, 65, 7A, 65, 62, 6F, 78, 32, 20, 64, 69, 73,
70, 6C, 61, 79, 74, 79, 70, 65, 25, 33, 41, 67, 72, 61, 70, 68, 69, 63, 2D,
33, 32, 30, 78, 33, 32, 20, 63, 6F, 6E, 6E, 65, 63, 74, 65, 64, 25, 33, 41,
31, 0A; SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket Data Rcvd=players 0 1 count:3 playerindex:0
playerid:00:04:20:05:a6:50 ip:192.168.0.133:21544 name:Kitchen-Backyard
model:squeezebox2 displaytype:graphic-320x32 connected:1
2/3 20:06:03 SQZ Received: players 0 1 count:3 playerindex:0
playerid:00:04:20:05:a6:50 ip:192.168.0.133:21544 name:Kitchen-Backyard
model:squeezebox2 displaytype:graphic-320x32 connected:1
2/3 20:06:03 SQZ Received: 
2/3 20:06:03 SQZ Sending players 1 1, Timer set to 0
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket SendProgress Fired: * Bytes Sent=12;  Data
Sent=70, 6C, 61, 79, 65, 72, 73, 20, 31, 20, 31, 0A; SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket SendComplete Fired; SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket SendComplete Fired: * Data Sent=70, 6C, 61, 79,
65, 72, 73, 20, 31, 20, 31, 0A; SocketState=7 (Connected)
2/3 20:06:03 TCP Socket Close Fired; SocketState=8 (Peer is closing the
connection)

I don't see anything untoward in the slimserver logs, but I haven't enabled
any debugging yet.

dd
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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Skunk

I'm going to attach my screenshot, because not updating song info may
have something to do with the fact that my control buttons aren't
loading.

ps again- Another reason for posting it is the fact that I wasn't able
to see the screenshots in your documentation, because I don't have MS
Word (graphics conversion filter error).


+---+
|Filename: Gooey.jpg|
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2354|
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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread barrygordon

To all my beta helpers. I really appreciate the help.  As you can
imagine It works fine for me, I lost my arrogance many years ago. 
Writing code for others to use can be so humbling. F Brooks (a major
player in the software world at one time), said that the difference in
cost between a program, something only its author can use, and an
application something anyone can use is ten fold.

Skunk: Please send me your ini file, I want to check some things.  I
assume you have just one player, but the player is not selected in the
players list which is wrong.  On seeing only one player it should
select it in the players list and therefore the screens should expand.

dd:  hmmm, do not see why yet.  If you can run a test, send me your ini
file and the full diaglog file. It rebuilds it whenever FAT Gooey
starts.

my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread aubuti

Thanks for the effort. I used the installation package, and starting Fat
Gooey (from a Win2K laptop) crashes slimserver (running on a
debian-based LinkStation) every time. I haven't enabled Fat Gooey
logging, but the slimserver log shows:

*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x127dc1d8 ***


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread barrygordon

Skunk,

I updated the web site (Files download only not the installation
package) with a new version.  It should fix your problem (so far). What
kind of system are you running the slim server on?  Windows or other? 
If other what kind?  It seems Fat Gooey crashes slim server for those
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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread barrygordon

Skunk,

Also I see the text is not fitting well.  Do you have the Arial Narrow
fonts installed?  I guess they are not as common as I thought they
were.  I need to look at the sizing of text and the fonts I select.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Skunk

barrygordon;177394 Wrote: 
 
 Skunk: Please send me your ini file, I want to check some things.  I
 assume you have just one player, but the player is not selected in the
 players list which is wrong. 

Everything works for me if I remove the comment notation from the start
player command. I did change the name, but get the same result that I
posted if Start Player is commented out (with only one player as you
guessed).

From config settings:
' If there is more than one player, then you can name the player to
open on startup
'Start Player  = squeezebox


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Skunk

barrygordon;177396 Wrote: 
 Skunk,
 
 I updated the web site (Files download only not the installation
 package) with a new version.  It should fix your problem (so far). What
 kind of system are you running the slim server on?  Windows or other? 
 If other what kind?  It seems Fat Gooey crashes slim server for those
 not running on a windows machine.

My server isn't remote (my desktop PC). Windows2k with service pack 4.
I also installed the .NET framework 2.0  for inguz if that matters.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread barrygordon

yes I had a badly formatted piece of code. The version on the web site
(files) fixes it.  I will also reWork all of the text to use Arial as
opposed to Arial Narrow.  I like Arial Narrow as long text then shows
up, but no big deal. probably post it tomorrow.

I am going to take a break and catch up on some TV. 
Need to do a lot tomorrow before Super bowl as SO comes home tomorrow.


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread smc2911

Had a quick look. A couple of minor comments: the display can't seem to
handled (utf8) accented characters. Also, it would be nice to be able
to resize the window (on my notebook, the whole thing doesn't fit on
screen unless I auto-hide the windows task bar).


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread Skunk

barrygordon;177403 Wrote: 
 yes I had a badly formatted piece of code. The version on the web site
 (files) fixes it.  I will also reWork all of the text to use Arial as
 opposed to Arial Narrow.  I like Arial Narrow as long text then shows
 up, but no big deal. probably post it tomorrow.
 
 I am going to take a break and catch up on some TV. 
 Need to do a lot tomorrow before Super bowl as SO comes home tomorrow.

The new version did work. I think there is a lot of potential there,
especially seeing it's context within your automation system. 

One other problem I wanted to mention was having a dozen gooey.exe
processes when I checked task mgr. He doesn't seem to kill them when
closed and opens a new one when run.

On to the feature requests :-) 
The speed of pulling genres etc is making me want to see what it can do
with album art. Any plans for this?

Moving things in the playlist needs work, and I wonder if drag/drop is
a possiblity here.

Enjoy the game. Did you say we're all invited? I'll be wearing blue and
white for sure! (from Indianapolis)


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Re: [slim] Fat Gooey for Slim Server

2007-02-03 Thread barrygordon

Skunk,

I will add a revisions log to my web site as I make changes. I will
look at the exit issue, did not notice that on my system, but then
again I never looked(:-) I am changing the font from arial narrow to
arial and resizing the text and label windows.  I assume you have Arial
as that is what your system defaulted to when it did not see Arial
Narrow. 

On my Theater system it does handle Album art so I have the code, but
only shows it when the screen saver (which I have not ported over
yet)is operating. What would you like done with album art? Thumbnails
instead of a list when viewing albums in the library frame? I did that
for my DVD's but then found most people just wanted to see the titles
with the ability to show a detailed infor screen on the DVD.  I could
do that for the CD, providing the tracks have full tags with all the
info.  In my DVD system I (actually DVD profiler) pull all info from a
DVD database. 

With regard to the playlists and drag/drop anything is possible.  I
assume you would like to be able to pull up albums (filtered) expand to
songs/tracks and then drag/drop?  Right now you can add to the Current
Play List Whole albums or all content of an artist), re arrange it
(move delete) and then save it. I guess expanding a selected item in
the library would be a good start. I will do that next week


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