[slim] Help me put toghether HW and SW for my server!

2009-11-17 Thread cybervision_

Hi guys!

I have an incredibly good setup, but I am considering getting
everything digitalized and playing it via squeezebox. I have and old PC
laying around and I am thinking of getting an intel Atom 330 CPU
soldered on a motherboard with built-in graphics, along with a 1 TB disc
to play my music, as I can get the cabinet for free. 
Will the perfomance be sufficient? 
Which SB would you recommend for the job? I have an Onkyo 5007 receiver
with 32 bit BurrBrown DACs so I am thinking of feeding it digitally.

AND last, but not least: What kind of free operating system would you
recommend to run on the server?

I want something easy to install, with good performance, running
Squeezecenter and fairly easy to upgrade.

Help is greatly appreciated!


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Re: [slim] Help me put toghether HW and SW for my server!

2009-11-17 Thread Pat Farrell
cybervision_ wrote:
> Hi guys!

Careful, we have some women here too. :-)


> I have an incredibly good setup, but I am considering getting
> everything digitalized and playing it via squeezebox. I have and old PC
> laying around and I am thinking of getting an intel Atom 330 CPU
> soldered on a motherboard with built-in graphics, along with a 1 TB disc
> to play my music, as I can get the cabinet for free. 
> Will the perfomance be sufficient? 

The CPU is enough. Make sure you have enough RAM. If you can stick a gig
on it, you will be very happy.

> Which SB would you recommend for the job? I have an Onkyo 5007 receiver
> with 32 bit BurrBrown DACs so I am thinking of feeding it digitally.

If you can wait  a couple of months, I'd wait for a Touch, its cool.
If not, the affordable choices are the Duet or the SB3.


> AND last, but not least: What kind of free operating system would you
> recommend to run on the server?

My opinion is, if you have a friend using Debian or Ununtu, use that. If
not, and you have a friend running something else, use that. If you have
no friends, run Ubuntu desktop (not server), as there is tons of support
in the Ubuntu forums.

You technically don't need the GUI, but I find it very  useful during
setup, and a lot easier to approach if you are used to Windows or OS-X.

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Re: [slim] Help me put toghether HW and SW for my server!

2009-11-17 Thread Gonzo42

pfarrell;486451 Wrote: 
> 
> If you can wait  a couple of months, I'd wait for a Touch, its cool.
> If not, the affordable choices are the Duet or the SB3.
> 
Hi all.

I would recomend a Duet or Classic, because of the Controller with it's
display. So you havn't go to the receiver / Touch / to play arround.

Or use iPeng on iTouch / iPhone with the Touch ;)

Regards


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Re: [slim] Help me put toghether HW and SW for my server!

2009-11-18 Thread pski

If you have no other use for the PC, use VortexBox. (I am not an
employee.)

Underneath it's RedHad Fedora but you don't need to know anything about
that.

You get Squeezebox Server and another web page that allows you to load
CD's, and etc. No technical ability required.

p


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Re: [slim] Help me put toghether HW and SW for my server!

2009-11-18 Thread iPhone

I suggest checking out 'Vortexbox' (http://vortexbox.org/). Its free and
runs a Linux OS. Ubuntu is another good OS choice and is free but
doesn't include SBS 7.4 already installed, but one needs a little
knowledge or learning of it. Vortexbox is basically hands off and will
rip your CDs to FLAC by simply inserting them into the DVD drive. Using
an old PC is fine, but I recommend a Gig of Ram as Pat does and put a
newer DVD writer in for pass accurate rips plus eliminating problems
with Vortexbox install.

RIp to FLAC.

Buy an SB3 or wait for a Touch especially if you want to do 24/96 files
native.

So check out the Vortexbox website and give it a try. If you don't like
it, it only cost you some time.


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Media Room:
Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr
6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference
Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope
2.35:1   

Living Room:
Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A
Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1  

Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM
Bedroom: Second Boom
Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio
Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini
Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive

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Re: [slim] Help me put toghether HW and SW for my server!

2009-11-19 Thread ajkidle

Does Vortexbox utilize AccurateRip, or is it cross-your-fingers
on-the-fly ripping?

>From personal experience I can concur with Pat's recommendations on the
OS.  I have no friends (at least, not any with non-Windows OS knowledge)
and I was able to get Ubuntu up and running with minimal effort.  I've
got it on an old Pentium-D with 512MB of RAM, no issues.  Although I'd
love to upgrade that box to something quieter and more power efficient
like the Atom.  Maybe I need to run the ROI on the power savings to
justify the up-front expense, wonder if the wife would go for that...


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Re: [slim] Help me put toghether HW and SW for my server!

2009-11-19 Thread ajkidle

cybervision_;486447 Wrote: 
> 
> Which SB would you recommend for the job?

I like the simplicity of the SBR.  They're small, inexpensive, and
easy.  I've been happy using either the Controller or iPeng to control
playback.  

But it depends on how you envision this integrated into your setup.  If
you want an interface on the player, and the ability to show pictures as
a screen saver, etc. the Touch looks to be an excellent offering on the
horizon.


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Re: [slim] Help me put toghether HW and SW for my server!

2009-11-19 Thread SilverRS8

Which SB is best for you totally depends on the requirements and usage
scenarios.

In my living room I like to see what is playing when sitting in the
couch and hence the SB3 is the best choice. Regarding controlling the
SB3 I prefer both the SBC and the IR remote. Using the IR remote
searching is a lot quicker (using the lazy search plug-in). Searching
with the SBC is no fun! However browsing through your library and
picking tracks or albums to listen is much more fun with the SBC.

In the kitchen I have speakers on the top of the closets and no room to
install a SB3 on a decent place hence the pleads for a receiver to be
placed on top of the closets too.

The upcoming SB Touch has a lot of potential but has two caveats:
1. The touch part will only be usable when placed on comfortable
location. Many SBs are placed at the other equipment often on low height
making the touch part hardly usable unless you like to kneel down every
time
2. Although a very nice color display I expect it to be unreadable from
greater distances, at least not up to the same as the SB3

Hope this is of any help


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Re: [slim] Help me put toghether HW and SW for my server!

2009-11-19 Thread agillis

ajkidle;487106 Wrote: 
> Does Vortexbox utilize AccurateRip, or is it cross-your-fingers
> on-the-fly ripping?
> 
> From personal experience I can concur with Pat's recommendations on the
> OS.  I have no friends (at least, not any with non-Windows OS knowledge)
> and I was able to get Ubuntu up and running with minimal effort.  I've
> got it on an old Pentium-D with 512MB of RAM, no issues.  Although I'd
> love to upgrade that box to something quieter and more power efficient
> like the Atom.  Maybe I need to run the ROI on the power savings to
> justify the up-front expense, wonder if the wife would go for that...

For ripping VortexBox uses cdparanoia. It has several methods to get a
bit perfect rip but it does not use AccurateRip.

How much does your power cost? At .10/kwh a standard PC like the one
your using uses about 120watts and costs about $105 a year to run. A
VortexBox appliance uses 24 watts and cost $20 a year to run and a Micro
applaince draws 6 watts a year and cost $5 a year to run.

So if you bought a VortexBox Micro Applaince for $400 your payback
would be about 4 years just in power savings! Plus you would get a much
quieter small box!


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