Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
2 SB3s, originally bought direct from Slim Designs in 2006. I still have one of them, but they both started re-booting. In the interim I bought a Grace Digital Audio player. That has horrible sound quality; even with external speakers. Ok for my workshop. Fortunately, phillipe_44 offered to replace the capacitors, on these re-booting SB3s, so I mailed him my 2 compromised players. I got them back, and I am listening to one of these SB3s as I type. I bought a 3rd SB-3 of E-Bay, so now have 3 functioning perfectly. chamonix's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
Paul Webster wrote: > A very perceptive question. > I first heard FIP while in a car of a French woman in Paris in 1995 ... I suspected such VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
Purely speculative, but I think the Sonos user profile is rather different to LMS. Seems to divide between youngsters with smartphones (and increasingly Sonos is reducing access to only the latest 'shiny' new models) anf older users who seem to often have 'more money than sense' (having 'invested' over 1 in speakers). Sonos seems popular in Scandinavia. Sonos control is largely limited to smartphones - there is no web-interface, and no linux controller. There is hardly any community development of programs, etc. and users are almost utterly dependent on Sonos fixing or at least not breaking working systems with so-called updates. The community forum can turn really fractious very quickly if anyone questions the value of some recent 'improvements'. And once a system update has taken place, there's no way to revert. My Sonos system is reduced to a Beam soundbar, and 2 speakers integrated into LMS using the upnpbridge plugin. The only plus in my book is that the speakers do sound good, but no longer such a plus compared to the Roberts S series or Libratone Zipps. LMS is light-years ahead of Sonos, and almost every other sound system. (For what it's worth my favourite LMS setup is a chromecast audio (gen 1 - 25 usd) linked to Avantree long-distance BT transmitter (40 usd) and a set of decent headphones - your choice!). LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Home Mini, Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler Brexit = stupidity castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
My kids obviously are heavy SB users - each one has his own Radio. Plus shared units in Kitchen and living room (Touch). Some of our friends actually envy us, because this setup allows the kids to use Spotify without the need for a tablet or smartphone. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
Trying to bring the average age down for Squeezebox users in this family... As of a couple of months ago, two of the grandchildren have Jogglers in their rooms and a Receiver in another bedroom and I have some powered speakers and another Joggler to be put in their kitchen over Christmas - all connected to a Raspberry Pi running LMS hidden behind the TV. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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castalla wrote: > One factor which 'worries' me a bit is whether the squeezebox community > will start to demonstrate demographic creep as time passes! (Include me > in that!) > > I wonder what the average age is of users these days? Who are you calling a demographic creep! I'm doing my best in this respect - my kids know how much of a Squeezebox fan I am, and every time they come home for a visit I have some new aspect to show off (Jivelite on the TV, Airplay to the whole house, Spotify connect etc), so I'm hoping that when they settle into their own homes they'll ask me to set up a Squeezebox system. But I don't think hifi is the priority for them that it was for me at their age. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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We married in 1996! Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
Paul Webster wrote: > A very perceptive question. > I first heard FIP while in a car of a French woman in Paris in 1995 ... I always wanted to ask but always shy away :) - Im French obviously - LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
d6jg wrote: > @Paul > I have often wondered with an Anglo Saxon name such as yours why you > ever decided to get involved with French internet radio? A very perceptive question. I first heard FIP while in a car of a French woman in Paris in 1995 ... Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
castalla wrote: > One factor which 'worries' me a bit is whether the squeezebox community > will start to demonstrate demographic creep as time passes! (Include me > in that!) > > I wonder what the average age is of users these days? I'm 65, but in my mind I'm 27, so my average age is 46. Living Room: Pi3 w/Allo Digione Player (Wired), Max2Play w/LMS Server 7.9 and SqueezeLite Pioneer Elite VSX 80, Parasound 2125 v2 KEF LS50's, Paradigm SE Center, SVS SB12-NSD Subwoofer, Paradigm Atom v.5 Surrounds Harmony Smart Control w/Hub and iPeng Dining Room: KEF Q100's Bedroom: Logitech Boom Porch: Boston Acoustics Voyager Metro II Router: Asus RT-N56U Fahzz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
One factor which 'worries' me a bit is whether the squeezebox community will start to demonstrate demographic creep as time passes! (Include me in that!) I wonder what the average age is of users these days? LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Home Mini, Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler Brexit = stupidity castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
d6jg wrote: > Absolutely. > I have a friend who is wedded to Sonos but doesnt keep abreast of > developments in quite the way I do. > I took great pleasure in letting him know about the September release of > their portable speaker designed for outdoor. Just in time for the > English summer (not). Portable squeezeboxes - plenty available via airbridge and upnpbridge. Voice?? the alexa mediaserver skill works a treat! LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Home Mini, Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler Brexit = stupidity castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
castalla wrote: > ... and 7 years on the extension of 'squeezebox' players with Raspis and > some innovative plugins (eg. phillipe's bridges, streaming plugins) > eclipses the ballsup Sonos have made in recent months in their mad-rush > to accomodate smartphones and flaky voice features. Absolutely. I have a friend who is wedded to Sonos but doesnt keep abreast of developments in quite the way I do. I took great pleasure in letting him know about the September release of their portable speaker designed for outdoor. Just in time for the English summer (not). VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Paul Webster wrote: > I wrote about my beginning with this stuff a few years back. > http://dabdig.blogspot.com/2008/07/digital-listening-as-dabdig-application.html > I think I bought that Audiotron in 2001 or 2002. > and then my first Slimdevices kit in 2005 - the new SB2 > http://dabdig.blogspot.com/2008/07/digital-listening-part-2-having.html @Paul I have often wondered with an Anglo Saxon name such as yours why you ever decided to get involved with French internet radio? VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
d6jg wrote: > Also found this post I wrote in 2012 > https://www.js60och.co.uk/logitech-what-have-you-done/ > Still valid 7 years later ... and 7 years on the extension of 'squeezebox' players with Raspis and some innovative plugins (eg. phillipe's bridges, streaming plugins) eclipses the ballsup Sonos have made in recent months in their mad-rush to accomodate smartphones and flaky voice features. LMS server: Pi Zero Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Home Mini, Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler Brexit = stupidity castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
Also found this post I wrote in 2012 https://www.js60och.co.uk/logitech-what-have-you-done/ Still valid 7 years later VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
Paul Webster wrote: > I wrote about my beginning with this stuff a few years back. > http://dabdig.blogspot.com/2008/07/digital-listening-as-dabdig-application.html > I think I bought that Audiotron in 2001 or 2002. > and then my first Slimdevices kit in 2005 - the new SB2 > http://dabdig.blogspot.com/2008/07/digital-listening-part-2-having.html You predated me by a couple of years both with your first device and youR first post I blogged about it in 2013 https://www.js60och.co.uk/internet-radio-stuff/ VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
My learner device was a Netgear MP-101: [image: https://ksassets.timeincuk.net/wp/uploads/sites/54/2005/03/1131-mp101-1.jpg] I remember being amazed that it worked. Taught me the perils of "two-hop" wireless. 802.11(b)! Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
I wrote about my beginning with this stuff a few years back. http://dabdig.blogspot.com/2008/07/digital-listening-as-dabdig-application.html I think I bought that Audiotron in 2001 or 2002. and then my first Slimdevices kit in 2005 - the new SB2 http://dabdig.blogspot.com/2008/07/digital-listening-part-2-having.html Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Author Radio France (FIP etc) plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] It all started here .... and it still works!
Before I bought my first Squeezebox player - an SB3 - I had experimented with a couple of other devices that played Internet Radio and local files from a DLNA server. This was the first such device which I discovered the other day during a clear out. A Freecom Musicpal. Both knobs are really sticky. Stickier than you get a Boom. The left hand knob. Play/pause and volume is actually broken but the volume can still be adjusted with it in some way. Fortunately there is a system tray app that surprisingly works on W10 which can control the volume. Internet Radio still works and it will play mp3s from my QNAP dlna server (but not Flacs). It has a single speaker but also a stereo line out. When I first got the SB3 and installed LMS 7.7.2 on my first Qnap I created a favourite on the Musicpal for stream.mp3. It still works! [image: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191128/7fbcb76a514ebbc33b6e9a35c8706b19.jpg] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111285 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
