Re: [slim] Need help with MP3Gain/normalization
The changes that mp3gain makes to your mp3 file are not permanent. The changes are reversible if mp3gain has written tags to your files or you have noted the gain elsewhere. (I have written a script that writes the gain to a database as well as adding it to the id3v2 tag - I don't want mp3gain APE tags in my files.) Applying the gain directly is useful if you use your mp3 files on devices that don't support the tags - which I've found to be most of them. :( -- jth jth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51715 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with MP3Gain/normalization
You should never make irreversable normalisation changes to your music files. You should always just set the tags. You can then choose to use these (or not) per player. For instance I use ReplayaGain on my Boom but not on my Transporter. I have just used the (highly recommended and free) Foobar2000 to add ReplayGain tags to my whole library (23k flac tracks). It worked very well indeed. I virtually just opened my whole library in it, selected all tracks, right clicked and selected Replaygain/Scan Selection as Album (by tags). I say *virtually* as I had to use a different method for my Various Artist (compilation) albums as Foobar2000 won't recognise them as albums if each track has a different artist tag. For compilation albums I used the Scan Selection as Albums (by folder) option. (You can add this menu item to the ReplayGain menu via Preferences/Display/Context Menu. I also changed the ReplayGain preferences so that it operated in quiet mode and didn't show warnings (I could see them when it had finished) - in Preferences/Advanced/ReplayGain Scanner. Choosing these two settings meant I could leave Foobar running to do my whole collection (which took three days!). All my albums are kept in their own directories and Various Artist albums are kept seperately from non-compilation albus. One thing that you should be aware of is that Foobar2000 does not actually write the tags to any of the the files until it has completely finished scanning the files you've selected. This foxed me at first. MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51715 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with MP3Gain/normalization
Yes - use the tag method - do not make permanent changes to your files!! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51715 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with MP3Gain/normalization
I believe its the tag method (i used the default) and thought i read that the primary method of this program is not destructive to the original mp3 file. So you would suggest using the two other programs you mentioned and continue with tags and not make the changes permanent, right? igroucho;334202 Wrote: > CORRECTION! You should have written Mp3gain NOT Mp3tag which in the > latter case is a very fine app and is updated on a continuous basis! -- wolly wolly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51715 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with MP3Gain/normalization
I had Replay Gain set to "Smart Gain". They are mp3 files and it's a direct stream. Still no luck Phil Leigh;334145 Wrote: > You will see the individual track gain adjustment values in track > properties regardless of whether the Replay Gain is turned on or not. > > > In Settings - Player - Basic - Audio you need to set > Volume/Adjustment/Replay Gain to "Smart Gain". > > I presume your files are MP3? - what format are you streaming as? > In Settings - Advanced - File Types do you have: > > File format - MP3, Stream Format MP3, Decoder Native? -- wolly wolly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51715 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with MP3Gain/normalization
Nonreality;334167 Wrote: > Yeah you need to make sure smartgain is turned on. I would not have > used mp3gain myself. Did you use the tag method or the more permanent > method? Myself I would use foobar or dbpoweramp to do replay gain and > make sure that foobar uses ID3v2.3 tags. Mp3tag hasn't been updated > for years and it writes ID3v2.4 tags that aren't the best for a lot of > programs. If you have it alter the files then it doesn't matter if you > turn on smartgain or not. The files are volume equalized as they are > and while it works good for portables you usually don't want that as > your archived library. CORRECTION! You should have written Mp3gain NOT Mp3tag which in the latter case is a very fine app and is updated on a continuous basis! -- igroucho igroucho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51715 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with MP3Gain/normalization
wolly;334071 Wrote: > I loaded my whole library into MP3Gain. Had it do the analysis on each > track and applied the adjustment that it recommended. > > I then went to the Slimserver settings and had it adjust volume based > on these tags. When i look at each track's properties within slim's > browser, i do see the adjustement value. > > BUT normalization is not occurring which makes me believe that the SD > is not reflecting the proper levels. > > What am i missing?? > > thx much for the help!Yeah you need to make sure smartgain is turned on. I > would not have used mp3gain myself. Did you use the tag method or the more permanent method? Myself I would use foobar or dbpoweramp to do replay gain and make sure that foobar uses ID3v2.3 tags. Mp3tag hasn't been updated for years and it writes ID3v2.4 tags that aren't the best for a lot of programs. If you have it alter the files then it doesn't matter if you turn on smartgain or not. The files are volume equalized as they are and while it works good for portables you usually don't want that as your archived library. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51715 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Need help with MP3Gain/normalization
You will see the individual track gain adjustment values in track properties regardless of whether the Replay Gain is turned on or not. In Settings - Player - Basic - Audio you need to set Volume/Adjustment/Replay Gain to "Smart Gain". I presume your files are MP3? - what format are you streaming as? In Settings - Advanced - File Types do you have: File format - MP3, Stream Format MP3, Decoder Native? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51715 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Need help with MP3Gain/normalization
I loaded my whole library into MP3Gain. Had it do the analysis on each track and applied the adjustment that it recommended. I then went to the Slimserver settings and had it adjust volume based on these tags. When i look at each track's properties within slim's browser, i do see the adjustement value. BUT normalization is not occurring which makes me believe that the SD is not reflecting the proper levels. What am i missing?? thx much for the help! -- wolly wolly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51715 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
