Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
Are you able to get a gallery view of artwork in the Browse Albums page? Use the icon on the top right of the frame to switch from list to gallery view. If that doesn't work, initiate a clear library and rescan from server settings. In the now playing area, only some skins will show artwork and this doesn't matter if it is random mix or otherwise. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
I installed SS 6.5 last night (using softsqueeze on a windows XP system). I was disappointed to find that in a random mixed playlist, the currently playing album art doesn't display. KDF's post implies that in 6.51 album art will display with a random playlist. I eagerly downloaded and installed 6.51 but alas, I can only see album art when browsing by album or lookng at album detailsam I missing some setting or am I looking to do something that really can't be done??? Thanks, Kirk -- kklemme kklemme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7442 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
nelamvr6;142181 Wrote: > Are you using the default skin? Glad you got it sorted out but yes I was referring to the default skin. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
Quoting nelamvr6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: When I refered to the artwork in the default skin it appears I was in fact describing artwork appearing while browsing as you surmized. I appologize, I'm not very familiar with the default skin, I haven't really used it very much, I generally use fishbone. np. glad that got sorted out. debug is a complex task, hard when getting lost :) BREAKING NEWS: IT'S FIXED! good to hear. I was fairly certain it would work out :) It appears that the problem is not present in the latest nightly, I am now playing a random mix and the art is being displayed. Thanks a lot for your time and effort! Sorry to be a bother. not a bother, just got confusing for a bit. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
kdf;142201 Wrote: > Quoting nelamvr6 forums.slimdevices.com>: > > > > Could you tell me exactly how to get of Plugins and HTML directory > > trees? > > based on a default install, they are under c:\Program > Files\SlimServer\server\HTML and c:\Program > Files\SlimServer\server\Plugins > > > The last time, I uninstalled SlimServer via Windows control panel > and > > then deleted the Slimserver folder under "Program Files". Was that > > sufficient? > > should be, yes. > > > > > I am downloading the nightly right now. > > > > BTW, I was refering to the Default skin, not Default 2, and the art > I > > was seeing was in the left pane. But as I mentioned, only if each > song > > was selected individually. > > I think we need a new explanation of the problem then. When you start > > a random mix, there is nothing that should display artwork. While > playing a random mix, the left side does nothing. Right side displays > > the playlist and current song info. In the case of Default, it does > not show the current song artwork. > > If you are browsing, you will see artwork or browse albums, only if > you've selected gallery view by clicking the icon at the top right of > > that frame. This display requires a "clear library and rescan" in > order to set the artwork correctly. Browsing to a single album or > track will show artwork at any time and it is found when the page is > loaded. > > -kdf When using the fishbone skin album art is supposed to appear as a thumbnail in the player pane. When I play an album (IOW click the "Plus" icon in the album list, thereby adding the entire album to the playlist) the art is displayed this way. But when I create a random mix and then select "play' on the player I get no album art. There is a grey box with a question mark where the art usually appears, the same box that appears when an album is selected that does not have any art. In every version of slimserver up until now the album art would display without problem in this manner. When I refered to the artwork in the default skin it appears I was in fact describing artwork appearing while browsing as you surmized. I appologize, I'm not very familiar with the default skin, I haven't really used it very much, I generally use fishbone. BREAKING NEWS: IT'S FIXED! It appears that the problem is not present in the latest nightly, I am now playing a random mix and the art is being displayed. Thanks a lot for your time and effort! Sorry to be a bother. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
Quoting nelamvr6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Could you tell me exactly how to get of Plugins and HTML directory trees? based on a default install, they are under c:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\HTML and c:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Plugins The last time, I uninstalled SlimServer via Windows control panel and then deleted the Slimserver folder under "Program Files". Was that sufficient? should be, yes. I am downloading the nightly right now. BTW, I was refering to the Default skin, not Default 2, and the art I was seeing was in the left pane. But as I mentioned, only if each song was selected individually. I think we need a new explanation of the problem then. When you start a random mix, there is nothing that should display artwork. While playing a random mix, the left side does nothing. Right side displays the playlist and current song info. In the case of Default, it does not show the current song artwork. If you are browsing, you will see artwork or browse albums, only if you've selected gallery view by clicking the icon at the top right of that frame. This display requires a "clear library and rescan" in order to set the artwork correctly. Browsing to a single album or track will show artwork at any time and it is found when the page is loaded. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
kdf;142187 Wrote: > Quoting nelamvr6 forums.slimdevices.com>: > > > I did discover one thing: while using the default skin, album art is > > not displayed during a random mix if you just creat the mix and then > > select play. However if you select each song individually the > artwork > > appears. > > > Default skin never shows artwork on the right side. Make sure you > haven't confused this with Default2, which was mistkenly not removed > during the upgrade process. However, I'm fairly sure that also leaves > > out any artwork on the right side. > > Skins that doe support the thumbnail in the "now playing" section use > > the thumbnail image, which is only collected after a full library > scan. I have also suggested that you try a 6.5.1 nightly build to get > > around any "other issues" that I don't want to have to step through > one at a time at risk of consuming the rest of my day as well as > yours. > > you'll find the builds here: > http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.5 > > Also, as I have instructed in my first reply...it is also worth getting > rid of > Plugins and HTML directory trees and then installing the new version. > > -kdf Could you tell me exactly how to get of Plugins and HTML directory trees? The last time, I uninstalled SlimServer via Windows control panel and then deleted the Slimserver folder under "Program Files". Was that sufficient? I am downloading the nightly right now. BTW, I was refering to the Default skin, not Default 2, and the art I was seeing was in the left pane. But as I mentioned, only if each song was selected individually. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
Quoting nelamvr6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I did discover one thing: while using the default skin, album art is not displayed during a random mix if you just creat the mix and then select play. However if you select each song individually the artwork appears. Default skin never shows artwork on the right side. Make sure you haven't confused this with Default2, which was mistkenly not removed during the upgrade process. However, I'm fairly sure that also leaves out any artwork on the right side. Skins that doe support the thumbnail in the "now playing" section use the thumbnail image, which is only collected after a full library scan. I have also suggested that you try a 6.5.1 nightly build to get around any "other issues" that I don't want to have to step through one at a time at risk of consuming the rest of my day as well as yours. you'll find the builds here: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.5 Also, as I have instructed in my first reply...it is also worth getting rid of Plugins and HTML directory trees and then installing the new version. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
Mark Lanctot;142179 Wrote: > It must be specific to your install, because I have a random song mix > loaded and when I click on a song whose album contains artwork, the > artwork pops up in the left pane underneath the song info. > > Have you: > > - tried rescanning? > > - cleared the browser cache? > > How did you upgrade to 6.5? Did you uninstall 6.3 first and delete the > SlimServer directory or did you install it over 6.3? Are you using the default skin? I have cleared and rescanned several times, and I cleared the browser cache also. In the Fishbone skin the art is supposed to appear in the upper left corner of the player. All I get is a grey box with a question mark in it. See my above post, when I tried the default skin, artwork would appear, but only if I select eachsong individually. If I just tell the random mix to play no artwork. I had some problems with 6.5.0 when I first upgraded from 6.3, so I uninstalled everything and did a clean install. It may be my specific installation for all I know. Do you suppose it has something to do with XP 64bit? -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
It must be specific to your install, because I have a random song mix loaded and when I click on a song whose album contains artwork, the artwork pops up in the left pane underneath the song info. Have you: - tried rescanning? - cleared the browser cache? How did you upgrade to 6.5? Did you uninstall 6.3 first and delete the SlimServer directory or did you install it over 6.3? -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
I appreciate the help guys, but all this talk of ajax and "if
($('thisDiv')) { doSomethingtoIt($('thisDiv')); }" is going right over
my head.
I can provide a little more info if it will help:
I did clear the browser cache each time I tried a different skin. I
tried every skin, and the results were the same: skins which were
designed to display album art didn't during a random mix. While playing
an album the art is displayed OK.
I did discover one thing: while using the default skin, album art is
not displayed during a random mix if you just creat the mix and then
select play. However if you select each song individually the artwork
appears.
I am using Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.7 in WindowsXP 64bit.
I hope that helps some. I'm sorry I can't contribute more.
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Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
On 10/2/06, kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sadly, it's almost never the request itself that fails. It is the filling in of data. For instance, if $() fails, the process just stops. Mostly this is a case of tempalte toolkit [% IF %] blocks that wipe out a div id in some cases. This is why I really wish there was a way to make client-side updating aware of and based on the server-side template system. Unfortunately the only template system I'm aware of that works on an XML / DOM level is Kid, but it's Python-only and thus not very helpful for SlimServer. (Why are we discussing this in the main forum? :) ) - Jacob ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
kdf;142155 Wrote:
> For instance, if $() fails, the process just
> stops. Mostly this is a case of tempalte toolkit [% IF %] blocks that
>
> wipe out a div id in some cases. The only way to debug there is to
> either step through the script or move an alert through to code to
> track the line of failure.
yeah, it's messy. I do a lot of
if ($('thisDiv')) { doSomethingtoIt($('thisDiv')); }
now in my javascript, which gets me around javascript pooping out. But
your point is a good one. I also need to give a look-see at firebug, a
firefox extension for CSS/DOM/JS debugging. I've heard good things
about it.
kdf;142155 Wrote:
>
> It all comes down to time.
couldn't agree more. AJAX can be a real time suck, but I'm still very
much behind an AJAX/browser-based solution. The benefits are big, and
it fits perfectly into the architecture that slim has setup for skins.
cheers,
#!/ben
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Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
Quoting bklaas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: kdf;142140 Wrote: As such, it is patheticly incapable of giving much help when something goes wrong. KDF-- have you explored the onFailure option available in Prototype with AJAX requests? http://www.sergiopereira.com/articles/prototype.js.html#UsingAjaxUpdater sadly, it's almost never the request itself that fails. It is the filling in of data. For instance, if $() fails, the process just stops. Mostly this is a case of tempalte toolkit [% IF %] blocks that wipe out a div id in some cases. The only way to debug there is to either step through the script or move an alert through to code to track the line of failure. It all comes down to time. Right now, I have to say that the amount of time this stuff is taking is rapidly outdoing my ability to allocate. Frankly given the increasing level of tirades both public and private, I have to admit that perhaps I am less willing to give the time, rather than simply not having it to offer. I was not going to even respond initially to this thread, but felt compelled to assist after the response of the original poster. Much credit deserved there. Aside from that, I did spend a couple of evenings trying to track down any divs that might be wiped out from as many cases as possible. The results are in the nightly builds. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
kdf;142140 Wrote: > As such, it is > patheticly incapable of giving much help when something goes wrong. > KDF-- have you explored the onFailure option available in Prototype with AJAX requests? http://www.sergiopereira.com/articles/prototype.js.html#UsingAjaxUpdater I would tend to agree that debugging failures in AJAX is tricky, annoying business, but onFailure might help here...to be honest, I need to explore that option more myself, but thought I'd point you to it as well. cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas "the Nokia770 skin guy" bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
You don't mention what you've done, so I'll start with the obvious. (1) Do a complete clear and rescan of your music library. (2) Force your browser to clear its cache. (3) If that doesn't work, try trashing the database cache file to make sure it starts fresh. I haven't had to do this yet on 6.5, so I'm not sure what the name of the relvant file is in 6.5. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
Quoting nelamvr6 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Does anyone have any ideas? The 'now playing' section is updated via ajax. As such, it is patheticly incapable of giving much help when something goes wrong. The tracing is an ongoing effort, so while I can't say that I've seen the issue, I can say there have been many changes to the skin to handle various potential hurdles. It would be worth trying a 6.5.1 nightly build before going through to painful process of tracking down exactly what might be missing. -kdf ps. a great majority of the 'bugs' being reported are in fact all a combined problem due to upgrade issues that weren't properly handled. If you did an upgrade from 6.3.1, it is also worth getting rid of Plugins and HTML directory trees and reinstalling. Old plugins/page templates are a nuisance. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
nelamvr6;142129 Wrote: > And look at the forum posts recently. A LOT of problems with 6.5.0. Doesn't seem to be any more or less than other big releases like 6.2.0 and 6.3.0? What's weird is that the problems are not at all related to the major architectural changes in 6.5.0, notably split scanner and MySQL. They mostly seem to be about track duplicates. I wish I could help though, I do understand your frustration and it was good of you to back down a bit. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
OK, let me please start again. Sorry about that. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks! -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
Ben Sandee;142123 Wrote: > On 10/2/06, nelamvr6 forums.slimdevices.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Wow. What happened? 6.5.0 is without a doubt the buggiest release > yet! > > > That's a great way to start off with some goodwill to the volunteers > who > make the product what it is. > > Ben Well, I'm sorry, but it is. I have had a LOT more problems with this release than with ANY previous release. And I'm not a newbie, I am a BIG squeezebox supporter, not just here but on a bunch of forums. Check my post history, I'm not a complainer. But I gotta call a spade a spade. And look at the forum posts recently. A LOT of problems with 6.5.0. Now having said all that, I reread my post, and you're right, I at least could have phrased it better. I really do appreciate the work the developers do. That's why I'm hopeful I can get help with this problem. I'm gonna go back and edit my original post. I guess it was mostly my frustration talking. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.5.0 - No Album Art in random mix
nelamvr6;142121 Wrote: > Wow. What happened? 6.5.0 is without a doubt the buggiest release yet! Actually I'm not the only one to think it's the best release so far... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28115 Sorry to say "works for me", but it does, cover art and all. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
