[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
Mark Lanctot Wrote: ? DSL/cable modems are usually for broadband. Sorry, i meant to say With-out- the DSL/Cable modem. -- dangerous_dom dangerous_dom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
dangerous_dom Wrote: Sorry, i meant to say With-out- the DSL/Cable modem. Ah. Makes sense now. :-) rudholm's mention is interesting - however the only modems I've seen with serial connections are really old U.S. Robotics Sportster (?) 19.9 kbps antiques. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
I know i replied on Hexus, but i just had a thought. If you are not using ADSL and aren't going to be in the near future, then all you need in an access point. Do you have any wired devices you want to connect as well? Basic access points should be dirt cheap these days. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
Not doing the wireless thing at my house but I've been happy with my Linksys stuff. I have had the 8 port BEFSR8? router for as long as I've been off dial-up. 7 years maybe?? Simple and idiot proof (good for me) and solid. You could go with an access point like the WAP54G or get a at router WRT54G. They are all about the same price. Check out http://www.linksys.com As far as getting good prices check out www.pricegrabber.com they even seem to have a UK version www.pricegrabber.co.uk and www.pricescan.com Good luck, -- bobharp Bob Harper bobharp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=600 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
funkstar Wrote: Basic access points should be dirt cheap these days. Good idea, but as bobharp points out, there isn't much of a price difference between that and a router. A router will give you more LAN ports, a WAN port for future use, a firewall, greater flexibility, DHCP, DNS, etc. If it doesn't cost much more, why not go for it? Although I just realized something - dangerous_dom, you can probably add another wireless device to your ad-hoc network without changing much. However, it isn't nearly as secure or fast as an Infrastructure network, but it should work. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
Mark Lanctot Wrote: Although I just realized something - dangerous_dom, you can probably add another wireless device to your ad-hoc network without changing much. But i thought adhoc only allowed 2 devices to be connected (peer-2peer), no? Can anyone confirm this? Would it be possible to adhok 3 devices and use them at the same time? -- dangerous_dom dangerous_dom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
dangerous_dom Wrote: But i thought adhoc only allowed 2 devices to be connected (peer-2peer), no? Can anyone confirm this? Would it be possible to adhok 3 devices and use them at the same time? Surprisingly, most of the information on the web is dated - most of it is oriented around 802.11b and WEP. I suppose this is due to the low cost of routers these days. But, you can try it out at no cost. If it doesn't work, then you may want to get a router. I was certain I had read that multiple clients could be used. This page seems to indicate that multiple clients are possible: http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/wirelessfaqs/f/adhocwireless.htm but also indicates they must each be capable of ad-hoc mode (this makes sense because it forms a mesh network where each device talks to its closest device and that device relays the data on behalf of the first). The Squeezebox doesn't have ad-hoc mode although it can act as a client and a PDA won't likely either, although it can also act as a client. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
Mark Lanctot Wrote: Ah. Makes sense now. :-) rudholm's mention is interesting - however the only modems I've seen with serial connections are really old U.S. Robotics Sportster (?) 19.9 kbps antiques. Only a few of the cheapest modems have only USB. Most new ones have either serial or serial and USB. For dangerous_dom, I think a modem and a SpeedStream 2623 is clearly the best way to go. I'd have mailed him both items if I hadn't already given them away. -- rudholm rudholm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2980 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
rudholm Wrote: Only a few of the cheapest modems have only USB. Most new ones have either serial or serial and USB. For dangerous_dom, I think a modem and a SpeedStream 2623 is clearly the best way to go. I'd have mailed him both items if I hadn't already given them away. The last modems I remember seeing were all internal devices on PCI cards. No serial or USB ports at all. Come to think of it, I haven't even seen a modem for sale in about 3 years. If I had to buy one today I don't know where I'd get one. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
Mark Lanctot Wrote: The last modems I remember seeing were all internal devices on PCI cards. No serial or USB ports at all. Come to think of it, I haven't even seen a modem for sale in about 3 years. If I had to buy one today I don't know where I'd get one. There's bajillions of 'em: http://tinyurl.com/ldv8t http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=external+modembtnG=Search+Froogle http://tinyurl.com/ht7op http://castle.pricewatch.com/s/search.asp?s=external+modem And they can be had for reasonable sums of money, apparently. -- rudholm rudholm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2980 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
dangerous_dom Wrote: Basically, i want something that will just network all my WiFi devices with the DSL/Cable modem bit as I dont/cant have broadband (stuck on dial up). ? DSL/cable modems are usually for broadband. But anyway, most routers will work even without an Internet connection. No niceties like timestamping or DNS server, but the router should still work. I've never tried it, but if you had your modem-equipped PC using Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) with an integrated or add-on NIC you could tie that NIC into the router's WAN port and get DNS/timestamping! In a wired network, you could get by with a switch. For a wireless device, you'd be best served with a router as an AP usually doesn't have more than one LAN port and does not function as a switch. Wire the modem-equipped PC up to one of the router's LAN ports, activate ICS and then any devices connected wired or wirelessly to the router will also have Internet access when the PC's modem is active. In regards to which router to use, I went with one of the most popular routers ever made, the Linksys WRT54G, and it's been rock-solid for Internet access, general LAN and Squeezebox use, with all router firmware (including 3rd party Linux firmware) and all Squeezebox firmware. I went with it simply because it's so popular and so common that it was bound to work and it did. That's not to say it's the best - my old SMC 2804WBRP-G router had greater security, range and throughput but it didn't work with the SB3 until firmware 36 and won't ever work with WPA2. But stick with something very common. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help me choose the right router!
The Siemens Speedstream 2623 is a wireless/wired router that has, in addition to the usual ethernet upstream connection, a serial port so that you can use a dialup modem connection as your upstream connectivity. This is sold as a fallback feature for when your broadband connection fails, but there's no reason you couldn't use it full-time. -- rudholm rudholm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2980 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23901 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
