[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-30 Thread Michaelwagner

In fact, the solution suggested only works if there's only one
listener.

In a mass audience situation, you have to maintain directional
coherence and make the entire air mass move as one. Meaning all the
speakers have to be pointing more or less the same way. It only has
much of a chance of working in a stadium or something like that, an
open air concert or so.

Almost impossible to do in a house.

And yes, he wrote it backwards. I'm sure it was a slip of the lip.


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-30 Thread krosfyah

I don't use wireless ...too unreliable.  All the SB's are 100baseT and
are virtually flawless.

The problem with putting in a delay is what happens when you are
walking between rooms?  How do you know which one is the "nearest" one
if you are walking about?  I'm very happy with my current syncing
situation.


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-30 Thread funkstar

shourly the one closest to you should be behind as the sound from the
others is going to take longer to get to you, so you would have to
match that delay with the one closest?

but when the two units are quite close together (one of mine is in the
bedroom, the other is in the living room of a one bedroom appartment)
it works well when they are syc'ed perfectly


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-29 Thread snarlydwarf

krosfyah Wrote: 
> 
> I might buy the Roku anyway and hook it up to my entertainment system
> which is on another floor.  If the boxes are 1/2 second off between
> floors, I don't really care since I can't hear the difference anyway. 
> Anybody forsee any problems doing this?

If you plan on using it wireless: it only supports WEP.  I wouldn't
allow any network of mine to do WEP...

As for synchronization, I'm never clear on why you would want it
-exactly- synced.  You would actually want multiple devices slightly
out of sync to deal with sound propogation delays.  If they were
exactly in phase and you could hear one room from another: they would
always sound out of phase.  The trick is that the one closest to you
should be 'ahead' of all the others...


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-29 Thread krosfyah

UPDATE:

Well I plugged in my buddy's Roku 1000 and my Slimserver immediately
detected it and I started playing music in <60 seconds.

HOWEVER,
I added it to my sync list and my SB and the Roku both cranked up but
were almost immediately out of sync.  Completely unusable.

I might buy the Roku anyway and hook it up to my entertainment system
which is on another floor.  If the boxes are 1/2 second off between
floors, I don't really care since I can't hear the difference anyway. 
Anybody forsee any problems doing this?


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-27 Thread Michaelwagner

On the Roku web site it says it only works with 5.2.1.

If true, you have a problem because 5 didn't support SB2s.


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-27 Thread TheEndless

krosfyah Wrote: 
> Okay, then there is some hope syncing with a Roku afterall.  
> 
> Since I do have a buddy with a Roku, I'll see if he is willing to pull
> it out for me.  He owes me some favors anyway.  I'll post my results.
My experience with the Roku's SlimServer emulation would suggest that
they won't sync.  The buffer on the Roku is a different size, and it
immediately begins playback once the buffer fills (it doesn't wait for
the command from SlimServer to start playing, which is essential for
proper synchronization).  You may have some limited success, but I
wouldn't count on it working too well.

TheEndless


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-27 Thread krosfyah

Okay, then there is some hope syncing with a Roku afterall.  

Since I do have a buddy with a Roku, I'll see if he is willing to pull
it out for me.  He owes me some favors anyway.  I'll post my results.


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-27 Thread azinck3

While Ken's response is relevant and helpful to the problem at hand, I
just wanted to correct him on the transcoding details.  When syncing
multiple boxes with different capabilities, the server will fall back
to the capabilities of the weakest box.  In other words, in Ken's
example, when the SB2 and SB1 are synched, the flac decoding is
happening on the server for *both* units and *both* units are receiving
raw pcm (unless you have bitrate limiting on, in which case both are
receiving mp3).


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[slim] Re: Roku and SB synchronization

2006-04-27 Thread Ken

I found that an SB1 & SB2 would sync, playing flac files, but would
generally fall out of sync after a few tracks. This could perhaps have
been addressed by transcoding to wave on the server for both but I was
just letting things default so the SB1 stream was transcoded to wave on
the server and the SB2 was doing the transcoding from flac to wave.

Sorry not fully helpful,

Ken


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