[slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread mattybain

I was spitting at this comment on the article This product seems pretty
much identical in functionality to the Roku Soundbridge, except it costs
over $100 more. When is someone going to make a network mp3 player that
I can connect directly to my external harddrive full of music? That's
exactly what people have been hacking the Soundbridge and the Linksys
NSLU2 to do...

How I would love to reply to that comment and correct it but
unfortunately there is no scope to do so on Gizmodo.


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RE: [slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Craig, James (IT)
The last thing I expect from gizmodo is accuracy!

To play devil's advocate, $100 will seem like a lot to the average
person for two products that do essentially the same thing.

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[slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread mattybain

I know it is difficult for the average user to know but I would never
touch a Roku Soundbridge even if they paid me never mind to save $100.
Much to my disgust I have a mate who has one and have experienced his
woes up close :(


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RE: [slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Craig, James (IT)
By the way it's even worse in the UK. £100 ($175) between the M1000 and the 
SB3. Ouch!

This new case may be more appealing to the 'average user' but the price 
certainly won't be.

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[slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Fifer

I think the £100 difference needs some explanation. 

The Roku Soundbridge is available from Expansys for £133 (which is a
£96 difference) but there's no stock and it does not appear to include
the wireless adapter which is on free offer from other vendors.
Broadbandstuff have the offer with the wifi adaptor, but their price is
£153 which is a £76 difference. 

However, the Roku pricing is for a product which has been on the market
for some time (maybe even EOL judging by the Expansys offer) where the
SB3 price is likely to come down to the sub-£200 level after a few
months if past releases are any guide. I'd say that on a like for like
basis, the real difference is lekely to be closer to £30 or £40. 

I know which I'm likely to buy.


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RE: [slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Craig, James (IT)
The first web site I found on google (it would pain me to provide a link where 
someone could buy one) was £136.16 for the SB1000  including the wireless 
adaptor. The SB3 is £236 on dabs.com who usually have very competitive prices.

I'm not trying to promote the Roku product but this is a HUGE price difference 
- I actually had no idea before looking today. 
And I doubt very much the price will come down at all soon - how many outraged 
posts on the forum would that provoke!?

James


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[slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Michaelwagner

mattybain Wrote: 
 this comment on the articleWhen is someone going to make a network mp3 
 player that I can connect
  directly to my external harddrive full of music?   I think the point, 
  though, is there and is important. Hackers (I mean
that in the most positive sense of the world) like us understand how
powerful it is to connect multiple units up to a home network. Most of
the rest of the world doesn't even have a home network beyond what
their linksys 4 port router gives them, and I'm willing to bet 3/4 of
them wouldn't know that they in fact have a home network by virtue of
the router.

If Slim made a Slug-like device (or a linkbox like device) that fit
under an SB2 (or behind an SB3), they would make adoption by non-geeks
a lot easier. For that matter, just private label a slug with a bigger
processor ... 

This is why I think server performance on small boxes is more important
than many people on this forum think ... because it's going to be
critical in the future for non-geeks to use the slim.


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Re: [slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Aaron Zinck
 I was spitting at this comment on the article This product seems pretty
 much identical in functionality to the Roku Soundbridge, except it costs
 over $100 more. When is someone going to make a network mp3 player that
 I can connect directly to my external harddrive full of music?

Funny thing is...'someone' already does.  Aside from the various high-end
devices that do this, the decided low-priced Omnifi DMS1 has this exact
capability (the drive can be a basic external usb hd--doesn't need to be a
NAS since it doesn't require server software).  Only problem is the device
is terrible.  Slow, clunky, poor audio quality, practically featureless.

I don't know why this reviewer seems to think that a device that you can
connect an external hard drive to is somehow the Holy Grail of audio
streamers--seems like a pretty short-sighted view in the world of
entertainment convergence.  It's amazing to me that someone (i.e. this
reviewer) who's been exposed to the broad scope of the SlimDevices approach
to audio delivery and distribution could long to drag around an external
hard drive everywhere they might want their music.



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[slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread mattybain

It looks like 239GBP on Dabs now for Wireless and 179 for Wired. That is
a 60GBP difference between Wired and Wireless. How can they justify that
when there is only a $50 difference from Slimdevices?

That makes the Wireless 1GBP = $1.2 AND $1.39 for wired.

What gives Dabs?


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[slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Fifer

At the moment, yes. Could you please PM me the link to the cheap Roku if
you don't want to post it? I can't find it.


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RE: [slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Craig, James (IT)
No! you might buy one!

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Re: [slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread kdf


On 26-Oct-05, at 12:29 AM, max.spicer wrote:



I think shvejk meant that these were the incorrect facts that were
stated in the review!

I know.  then I read the bottom of the article, where some idiot thinks 
the roku came first.


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RE: [slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Craig, James (IT)
I see there's a article up on the register now, where they think the
display is still character based... 
a bright, crisp 20 x 32 vacuum fluorescent display


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[slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Paul Webster

Craig, James (IT) Wrote: 
 I see there's a article up on the register now, where they think the
 display is still character based... 
 a bright, crisp 20 x 32 vacuum fluorescent display
I don't think that the author thought it was 20 or 32 rows of text
deep.
I think that they just missed the 3 off the front of 320.


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[slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread mattybain

kdf Wrote: 
 On 26-Oct-05, at 12:29 AM, max.spicer wrote:
 [color=blue]
 
 I know.  then I read the bottom of the article, where some idiot
 thinks 
 the roku came first.

I took your original comment to be directed at shvejk!!, glad you
cleared that one up I couldn't understand what he had said wrong.

Thats is what I was so cross at, all these commenters who clearly know
nothing about what they are saying and not being able to do anything
about it.


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[slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Paul Webster

Paul Webster Wrote: 
 I don't think that the author thought it was 20 or 32 rows of text
 deep.
 I think that they just missed the 3 off the front of 320.
Register article now updated - maybe because of the note I sent him.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/26/slim_devices_squeezebox_3/


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Re: [slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Josef Shvejk


Register article now updated - maybe because of the note I sent him.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/26/slim_devices_squeezebox_3/

Yeah, but they still have the WMA support backward. SB3 natively supports WMA. No need for transcoding.
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Re: [slim] Re: SB3 on gizmodo.com

2005-10-26 Thread Jack Coates

Josef Shvejk wrote:



Register article now updated - maybe because of the note I sent him.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/26/slim_devices_squeezebox_3/

 
Yeah, but they still have the WMA support backward. SB3 natively 
supports WMA. No need for transcoding.



But at least el Reg reporters cheerfully admit that they're drunk when 
they write the articles. One of my favorite sources of IT news.


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