[slim] Re: Slimserver/Softsqueeze and FLAC files

2006-05-16 Thread Mark Lanctot

Ah - interesting!

I can see why this is done.  It makes for a smaller stream size than
CBR because the bitrate can vary, yet a predictable average bitrate
which VBR can't provide.

I just assumed it was CBR because that's what foobar reports on
playback.


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Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver/Softsqueeze and FLAC files

2006-05-16 Thread kdf

Quoting Mark Lanctot

Hopefully someone clarifies this.

slimserver uses ABR (see convert.conf).  The quality settings defaults  
to 9 in order to have the least effect on CPU usage

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Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver/Softsqueeze and FLAC files

2006-05-16 Thread Steve Bernard, Jr

On 5/16/06, Mark Lanctot
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I was certain that SlimServer used CBR encoding but the LAME Quality
Level setting seems to indicate it may use VBR?  Surely not, 9 would be
awful at 45-85 kbps.  Hopefully someone clarifies this.



My understanding is that Slimserver uses ABR (Average Bitrate)
encoding, which is a form of encoding that allows for variable
bitrates but with a targeted average bitrate.

-Steve
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[slim] Re: Slimserver/Softsqueeze and FLAC files

2006-05-16 Thread Mark Lanctot

tfish77 Wrote: 
> I don't quite understand the difference between LAME quality and bitrate
> - which one affects audio quality more?  I'm trying to find the "sweet
> spot" between the 2 that allows for skip-free tunes that still sound
> good.
> 
> Thanks again for the advice.

Neither do I!  I'm not sure why they're separate and I don't use this
on a continual basis so I'm not sure.  I can tell you that the quality
setting does indeed hit the processor - my P4 2.8 GHz can't manage more
than about 5 on the quality setting without the audio playback
stuttering.

In the encoder command-line argument, the "quality" setting isn't even
used for CBR, it's used for VBR:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=28124

For CBR you'd use "-b 320" to encode at 320 kbps.  For VBR it's "-V X
--vbr-new" where X is the quality setting from 0 to 9 - interestingly,
matching SlimServer's quality setting range.  The VBR quality setting
determines the average bitrate for a VBR file.

I was certain that SlimServer used CBR encoding but the LAME Quality
Level setting seems to indicate it may use VBR?  Surely not, 9 would be
awful at 45-85 kbps.  Hopefully someone clarifies this.


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[slim] Re: Slimserver/Softsqueeze and FLAC files

2006-05-16 Thread tfish77

I don't quite understand the difference between LAME quality and bitrate
- which one affects audio quality more?  I'm trying to find the "sweet
spot" between the 2 that allows for skip-free tunes that still sound
good.

Thanks again for the advice.


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[slim] Re: Slimserver/Softsqueeze and FLAC files

2006-05-16 Thread Mark Lanctot

Good to hear!  You must have been limited by upload speed.

Note you can play around with the LAME Quality Level setting (right
above Bitrate Limiting) at the expense of processor usage on the
server.


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[slim] Re: Slimserver/Softsqueeze and FLAC files

2006-05-16 Thread tfish77

Mark,

Thanks for the info about Bitrate limiting.  Fixed my "playing my FLAC
at work" problem perfectly!  :)


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[slim] Re: Slimserver/Softsqueeze and FLAC files

2006-05-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Actually you can do this by going to Player Settings - Audio - Bitrate
Limiting.

There are complete instructions where to install LAME in the Help -
Frequently Asked Questions section of SlimServer:

> Windows Users:
> 
> * Download LAME 3.96 from one of these mirror sites
> * Extract two files LAME.EXE and LAME_ENC.DLL and copy them to
> C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\bin\

The mirror site is here: http://mitiok.cjb.net/


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