Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
hi jezbo! i find this issue also mightily irritating, so i opened an enhancement request in bugzilla at: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6208 if you are in the same camp, you may want to vote for the enhancement. more votes = more people want this = higher likelyhood of it being implemented! ;-) -- dcote dcote's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
snarlydwarf;259953 Wrote: It would be much easier to modify the scanner to do as you want. Then it would work consistently across the web and remote interfaces. How would I go about doing that ? -- jezbo jezbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
jezbo;260251 Wrote: ... but I also like to collect tracks together and tag it with the same Album name so that it will appear as an album eg. Mozart is the artist, Concertos is the album - and these are rarely if ever in the same folder (and I don't want to have to move them - iTunes wouldn't find them). What I do in such situation is: Artist: Mozart Album: Mozart: Concerto for Clarinet in A Op. xxx Genre: Classical; Concerto; Clarinet Album Artist:Joe the Clarinetist Track: Concerto for Clarinet in A - 1. Allegro Track: Concerto for Clarinet in A - 2. Addagio . so, as long as the tracks from the same album are in the same directory this works fine. -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
Forget genre - that turned out not to be the issue, but the folder location of the files is. I doubt I'm in a 1% minority. True enough, most of my real albums are stored in the same directory (except when I have downloaded one or two tracks then later downloaded the rest of the album on the strength of those), but I also like to collect tracks together and tag it with the same Album name so that it will appear as an album eg. Mozart is the artist, Concertos is the album - and these are rarely if ever in the same folder (and I don't want to have to move them - iTunes wouldn't find them). -- jezbo jezbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
2) Can you think of two compilation albums with exactly the same title? Lady Sings the Blues -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
1) So make it an option - everyone's happy. 2) Can you think of two compilation albums with exactly the same title? -- jezbo jezbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
radish;259538 Wrote: EAC, for example, doesn't have a way of setting COMPILATION. No, but you can pass the tag to an encoder using the additional command line options, at least for something like FLAC. I explicitly set the compilation tag to 0 for all albums, and then manually change it when I am tweaking tags on compilation albums. -- nolesrule nolesrule's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9429 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
jezbo;259793 Wrote: 1) So make it an option - everyone's happy. some, not everyone. for example: -QA who have to test every option -Support who have to keep track of every option and it's effects when helping customers diagnose an issue -Developers who have to continually track each option, and it's effects throughout the code any time some aspect of the feature changes, or have to replicate each option on the ever increasing interface paths (jive, cli, http, playerUI) and have to make each option act take effect immediately and completely. - Last but not least, Users - Those who are confused by the massive number of options and those who discover that their take on the option is that some other case is missing, or find that in fact the effect isn't immediate and they end up waiting for a scan. Also, the users who feel that the wrong option has been made the default. I'm not trying to enter a debate, or block the progress, but the idea that changes of this kind are simple doesn't properly address the reality of the issues. -kdf -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
Whole-heartedly disagree. I'm a developer myself, and our happiness is not the issue, a product must be flexible enough to satisfy the majority of customers. Making some rule rigid so that it only satisfies half the customers, even if it makes things simpler, is not good practice. And the rule of thumb on introducing a new option - make what it did before the default. As it is, I won't be using the SlimServer web interface since browsing of albums is such a pain; I'm writing my own interface that builds it's own database. I'll have to put up with duplicates in browsing via the remote I suppose. -- jezbo jezbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
jezbo;259946 Wrote: Whole-heartedly disagree. I'm a developer myself, and our happiness is not the issue, a product must be flexible enough to satisfy the majority of customers. Making some rule rigid so that it only satisfies half the customers, even if it makes things simpler, is not good practice. And the rule of thumb on introducing a new option - make what it did before the default. Making a rule more rigid so that it works better for 99% of the customers and keeps code more consistent is better, though. I doubt 50% of customers separate an albums tracks by genre. I doubt it is even 1%. A ton of customers Just Work with the dropping of Common Album Names and the must-be-same-album-if-in-same-directory code. Common Album Names sucked. As it is, I won't be using the SlimServer web interface since browsing of albums is such a pain; I'm writing my own interface that builds it's own database. I'll have to put up with duplicates in browsing via the remote I suppose. It would be much easier to modify the scanner to do as you want. Then it would work consistently across the web and remote interfaces. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
snarlydwarf wrote: A ton of customers Just Work with the dropping of Common Album Names and the must-be-same-album-if-in-same-directory code. Common Album Names sucked. Agreed. I don't think it's an unreasonable requirement that tracks from the same album are in the same directory. R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
jezbo;259946 Wrote: I'm a developer myself, and our happiness is not the issue Depends on whether you're paying said developers ;) As it is, I won't be using the SlimServer web interface since browsing of albums is such a pain; I'm writing my own interface that builds it's own database. I'll have to put up with duplicates in browsing via the remote I suppose. Or you could just reorganize your directory structure...I know which I'd rather do :) -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
jezbo wrote: Whole-heartedly disagree. I'm a developer myself, and our happiness is not the issue, Correct. The customers much be happy, which most are. a product must be flexible enough to satisfy the majority of customers. Which it does. Making some rule rigid so that it only satisfies half the customers, even if it makes things simpler, is not good practice. No, but making a rule rigid so that the product is more satisfactory to the majority of customers is very good practice. Keeping customers happy is not always about giving them what they ask for - sometimes they need to be educated as to the right way to do things. R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
If I have one album, but the songs are tagged with different genres, slimserver seems to create two or more different albums, one per genre. Is there any way I can have it ignore genre in album accumulation ? -- jezbo jezbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
Oh hang on, it may be breaking it because the files are split across directories - I've seen some other threads on this. Is there any resolution to this yet ? -- jezbo jezbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver seems to break albums by genre
I can think of two problems: 1) Your suggestion requires COMPILATION to be correctly set. I would expect that to be less commonly done in most people's libraries than keeping to a 1 album per directory model. EAC, for example, doesn't have a way of setting COMPILATION. 2) What if I have two different compilations with the same title? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
