Re: [slim] Squeezebox and Slimserver can't find each other.

2007-04-24 Thread wcattey

The additional symptoms you mention are also present with my system.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox and Slimserver can't find each other.

2007-04-23 Thread agentsmith

I have been having the exact same problem with SB3. 

Happened to both the SB3 and the SlimServer connected either wired or
wireless.

Slimserver version 6.51 on Windows XP

It started happening about 3 weeks ago.  Not much has been changed
then.  Before the problem, the clock on SB3 would show after slimserver
is started.  Nowadays, I have to trick the Sb3 into turning on by:

1. Pressing the on button a few times until it shows connecting to
server

2. Press left arrow and select sevrer to connect

3. Press right arrow to connect

4. repeat 2 and 3 until it connects

5. Once connected, it defaults back to the clock.  I have to then press
the powe button again to turn iton

By the way, Slim server shows "Your Player is not found" before SB3 is
connected.  

Also, when I connect to the server web page from another machine using
http://servername:9000, the web page shows "player not found" even
though the player is connected to the server happily player a song.


wcattey;197033 Wrote: 
> I switched my Squeezebox from wireless to wired operation, because I
> read in other threads, that many people had worked around flakiness
> with Squeezebox finding Slim Server by doing that.
> 
> Alas, today, the first time I tried to use m Squeezebox after taking
> the latest Apple Security update, the Slim Server and the Squeezebox
> had trouble finding each other.
> 
> This time around, I did NOT restart Slim Server.
> I DID get repeated, "Waking up Slim Server; Contacting Slim Server;
> 
> I DID run Softsqueeze 3.3, and have no trouble at all connecting to the
> server.
> I DID power cycle the Squeezebox.
> 
> None of those activities seemed to affect whether I could make contact
> between the Squeezebox and the Slim Server.
> 
> What worked this time?  While it said, "Waking up Slim Server" I hit
> the left arrow key, and saw the message, that it was trying to connect
> to my server. (I confirmed that the IP address was right.)
> 
> I hit the left and right arrows a few times.
> 
> Suddenely the dim clock face indicative of Slim Server and Squeeze box
> finally finding each other manifested.
> 
> Why didn't it remember that I'd ALREADY hit the On switch, and that the
> Squeezebox should NOT be in standby?
> 
> At that point I hit the On switch, and all behaved as if all was well.
> 
> I guess I'll have to enable debugging and fetch, install and run
> ethereal to try and watch what's happening.
> 
> I have a reasonably simple network here, and my Replay TV and my
> desktop have no problem finding each other and transferring
> gigabyte-sized TV programs.  I think somehow, when the Apple server
> reboots when Squeezebox is not expecting it, a problem ensues that the
> initial Aloha does not seem to reconcile, and which power cycling the
> Squeezebox also does not rememdy.
> 
> I will continue to watch.
> Any further suggestions how to watch are most welcome.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox and Slimserver can't find each other.

2007-04-23 Thread wcattey

I'll definitely continue monitoring the situation.
Maybe if I get time, I'll beat on it -- sleeping and waking the
computer a bunch
to see if I can identify the specific fault.

Next time it happens, I'll try your "hold down the power button"
work-around.

Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox and Slimserver can't find each other.

2007-04-23 Thread danco

Interesting, that you have the problem with a wired connection. I had
always assumed it was a wireless issue.

I get the issue at times when my computer wakes from sleep, so it isn't
actually a matter of rebooting.

I solve the problem by pressing and holding the power button. This does
one of two things (I'm not sure why it doesn't consistently just do one
thing).

It either

immediately gives the message connecting to network and after a while
provides the clock face that shows it connects or

gives the Welcome to Squeezebox message followed by the "to begin setup
press Right" message. At that point I press Up and then Right and it
goes through the connection process ending with the clock.

If you can work out exactly what is happening it would be a great
service. It's only a small bug (since there is the easy work-around),
but it is still annoying and it would be good to have it eliminated.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox and Slimserver can't find each other.

2007-04-23 Thread wcattey

I switched my Squeezebox from wireless to wired operation, because I
read in other threads, that many people had worked around flakiness
with Squeezebox finding Slim Server by doing that.

Alas, today, the first time I tried to use m Squeezebox after taking
the latest Apple Security update, the Slim Server and the Squeezebox
had trouble finding each other.

This time around, I did NOT restart Slim Server.
I DID get repeated, "Waking up Slim Server; Contacting Slim Server;

I DID run Softsqueeze 3.3, and have no trouble at all connecting to the
server.
I DID power cycle the Squeezebox.

None of those activities seemed to affect whether I could make contact
between the Squeezebox and the Slim Server.

What worked this time?  While it said, "Waking up Slim Server" I hit
the left arrow key, and saw the message, that it was trying to connect
to my server. (I confirmed that the IP address was right.)

I hit the left and right arrows a few times.

Suddenely the dim clock face indicative of Slim Server and Squeeze box
finally finding each other manifested.

Why didn't it remember that I'd ALREADY hit the On switch, and that the
Squeezebox should NOT be in standby?

At that point I hit the On switch, and all behaved as if all was well.

I guess I'll have to enable debugging and fetch, install and run
ethereal to try and watch what's happening.

I have a reasonably simple network here, and my Replay TV and my
desktop have no problem finding each other and transferring
gigabyte-sized TV programs.  I think somehow, when the Apple server
reboots when Squeezebox is not expecting it, a problem ensues that the
initial Aloha does not seem to reconcile, and which power cycling the
Squeezebox also does not rememdy.

I will continue to watch.
Any further suggestions how to watch are most welcome.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox and Slimserver can't find each other.

2007-03-24 Thread bpa

If there is doubt about whether the packets from the Squeezebox reach
and are processed by Slimserver - then you can do

1. run Ethereal all the time logging to a ring of files so that you
will always have a log of what's has been happening on the network on
the previous hours.  When the problem shows - stop ethereal and see if
Squeezebox packets are being logged and received by server.

2. Enable d_proto on slimserver - this will indicate if packets
(including the very first discovery packets) are being received  and
processed by Slimserver.  

If packets are not being logged by Ethereal - check wifi and network
hardware (NICs, Routers and cables). 

If packets are logged by Ethereal and not being processed by Slimserver
then I'd investigate "security" s/w - firewall, anti spyware, IM
protection etc.

If Packets are being processed by Slimservers but replies not seen by
Squeezebox  - check security s/w.


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[slim] Squeezebox and Slimserver can't find each other.

2007-03-24 Thread wcattey

Lately my Squeezebox and Slimserver have had trouble making contact.

I hit the power button on the remote and see the mesage:

waking up slimserver...

and then the screen goes blank.

I start the web interface into Slimserver, and it says that my device
is not found.

I stopped and re-started Slimserver.  No change.
I power cycled the Squeezebox.  No change.

The first time I tried to debug this, I started Softsqueeze 3.3, on the
same host as my server, and it COULD reach the server, but no sound came
out when I told it to continue the internet radio stream that it said
was what I'd left off "now playing".

I quit Softsqueeze 3.3, and started Softsqueeze 2.8.  That one made
contact, but had trouble doing anythng.  Finally from the web
interface, I told it to play "random mix" onto my Softsqueeze.

A little while after that I was able to make contact from the
Squeezebox to the server, and play music.

A couple days go by, and all seems well.

But today, again Squeezebox and the Slim Server can't find each other.

This time Softsqueeze 3.3 works fine, but no difference with
Squeezebox.

Seeing in other threads, that sometimes there's a wi-fi issue, I've
plugged my Squeezebox into one of the hard wired ports of my Wi-Fi
router and power cycled the Squeezebox.

Now the Squeezebox seems to be able to reach the server.

But I don't know if that's because I've gone hard-wired, or if I
managed to do the same shaking loose of the problem that I did last
time.

Additional information:

My players are generally configured to be synchronized, and I wonder if
this is creating additional complexity, even though the Softsqueeze is
generally not running.

I listen to internet radio via Radio paradise, which sometimes has
problems with streams hanging up.

My Squeezebox is literally five feet away from my wireless router,
whereas my server is in the next room.

I expect nobody is going to be able to help on this one.  I'll run for
a while hard wired to the Squeezebox and reply to the thread if the
hardwared connection manifests the problem same as the wi-fi.


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