Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-14 Thread Lesu

I too, have been using the 85Mb Homeplugs from Maplin very successfully.
After deciding to go over to using iPeng on an iPod Touch, I needed a
good wireless signal again, so I added a mains Homeplug connected
wireless extender + 4 port switch (Maplins £29) and effectively have
moved my WiFi access to a point lower down and nearer the middle of the
house. This has been useful not only for SB3 control, but allows me to
use my laptop in a less restricted area.


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-14 Thread Nonreality

I switched from an older Netgear rangemax wireless router to a new
Netgear type N (WNR854T). The change was pretty incredible. I'm always
at 95% and up and have never had any drop outs. My youtube used to be
pretty shaky and now it's great on my laptop. I was tentative about
getting it because the standard is new but I'm really pleased I did.


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-14 Thread miconone

+1 for Netgear HDXB101 Powerline HD (High Definition) Ethernet Adapter
kit, now £99 from Amazon. They worked out of the box and no dropouts or
interference since I started to use these three weeks ago. HTH.


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-14 Thread gbrandwood

Bought two pairs of Comtrends 200MB powerline adapaters, both for under
£50 per pair.  Haven't had any issues either.


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[slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-13 Thread copernical

I have had my duet now for a 12 days and most of the time
it does work fine.

However, at other times it is very difficult to get the SB
to connect properly to my networked PC, and at other times (rarer)
I get drop out of signal for several seconds. While playing, the music
stops and the starts again say 10 seconds later. I'm not sure whether
it is resuming where it left off or restarting the track.

It has been suggested that my problems are due to weakness of wireless
signal at the SB. I have been monitoring this (only when connected
obviously!) and find that it can very between 2% and 49% without any
apparent changes introduced by myself. This can occur over periods of
minutes. I have tried channels 1, 6 and 11 and they all seem to be
similarly variable.

Someone has suggested I try a couple of boxes which can be plugged into
a local mains socket and then connected with an ethernet cable to the
router at one end and the SB at the other. 

Can anyone tell me whether this should work adequately for music
streaming and also whether it does so in practice? What makes and
models might be recommended?

My router is a Linksys WRT54GL and my PC runs XP with a SiS 900-based
PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter card. My music is coming from iTunes. 

Any ideas welcomed.


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-13 Thread iainhar
I changed my PC to a new Apple last year and foundthat I experienced the same 
peoblem you mention. If I monitored the wireless signal, it stayed above 75% 
all the time, yet I still experienced hanging or drop out. The problem was 
exasperated if running more than 1 squeezebox at a time even though 1 is 
connected via ethernet! (strange).



 I decided to go down the Homeplug route to try to eliminate this. I bought 2 x 
85mb from Maplins @ £39.99 each and can report that since then no drop out 
whatsoever. Its been great. 




I would also like to mention I upgraded to SC7 with no problems and am happily 
using IPeng on my I Pod touch which is amazing. 




Iain.


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I have had my duet now for a 12 days and most of the time
it does work fine.

However, at other times it is very difficult to get the SB
to connect properly to my networked PC, and at other times (rarer)
I get drop out of signal for several seconds. While playing, the music
stops and the starts again say 10 seconds later. I'm not sure whether
it is resuming where it left off or restarting the track.

It has been suggested that my problems are due to weakness of wireless
signal at the SB. I have been monitoring this (only when connected
obviously!) and find that it can very between 2% and 49% without any
apparent changes introduced by myself. This can occur over periods of
minutes. I have tried channels 1, 6 and 11 and they all seem to be
similarly variable.

Someone has suggested I try a couple of boxes which can be plugged into
a local mains socket and then connected with an ethernet cable to the
router at one end and the SB at the other. 

Can anyone tell me whether this should work adequately for music
streaming and also whether it does so in practice? What makes and
models might be recommended?

My router is a Linksys WRT54GL and my PC runs XP with a SiS 900-based
PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter card. My music is coming from iTunes. 

Any ideas welcomed.


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-13 Thread funkstar

Powerline ethernet is generally more reliable than wirless as it is less
suseptable to outside interference. Actual performance however can vary
a lot depending on the configuration of your mains layout.

Having said this though, even poorly performing powerline ethernet
should be able to handle the low bandwidth needs of streaming audio.

Something else to try is moving your WRT54GL to a different location.
even moving it from the floor to about the same height as the SB
(assuming they are on the same floor etc.) can have a difference. It's
worth playing around with that and experimenting, it doesn't cost
anything for that :)


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-13 Thread copernical

Thanks for this funkstar. Maybe I should try putting the router on the
floor.
The SB is on the floor below but not in the room below. The signal has
to go through one floor and two walls. I'll give it a go.



funkstar;290876 Wrote: 
 Powerline ethernet is generally more reliable than wirless as it is less
 suseptable to outside interference. Actual performance however can vary
 a lot depending on the configuration of your mains layout.
 
 Having said this though, even poorly performing powerline ethernet
 should be able to handle the low bandwidth needs of streaming audio.
 
 Something else to try is moving your WRT54GL to a different location.
 even moving it from the floor to about the same height as the SB
 (assuming they are on the same floor etc.) can have a difference. It's
 worth playing around with that and experimenting, it doesn't cost
 anything for that :)


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-13 Thread copernical

Thanks for this Iain. Good to know someone has tried it successfully.


[EMAIL PROTECTED];290865 Wrote: 
 I changed my PC to a new Apple last year and foundthat I experienced the
 same peoblem you mention. If I monitored the wireless signal, it stayed
 above 75% all the time, yet I still experienced hanging or drop out.
 The problem was exasperated if running more than 1 squeezebox at a time
 even though 1 is connected via ethernet! (strange).
 
 
 
 Â*I decided to go down the Homeplug route to try to eliminate this. I
 bought 2 x 85mb from Maplins @ £39.99 each and can report that since
 then no drop out whatsoever. Its been great.Â*
 
 
 
 
 I would also like to mention I upgraded to SC7 with no problems and am
 happily using IPeng on my I Pod touch which is amazing.Â*
 
 
 
 
 Iain.


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-13 Thread bpa

 
 The SB is on the floor below but not in the room below. The signal has
 to go through one floor and two walls. I'll give it a go.
 

The signal from a router with normal straight antenna is doughnut
shaped with a hole in the middle - so no signal directly above and
below the router and a weak signal close to router if not on the same
level. 

So if SB3 is not on the same floor as the router - try to get SB3 away
from router horizontally and closer vertically to from the router.


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-13 Thread JasonJoel

I use the higher end Netgear powerline adapters (the '200 MB' ones that
can do HD video speeds). I have my Duet Receiver connected to one,
works perfectly.

I agree with the other comment that you shouldn't need the high end
ones I'm using for the SB (I already had them from another experiment).
The slower speed ones should be fine.

The only realy rub is that you can't really use them across major
electrical breaks. If the circuits are on the same main, you will
probably be OK.

I would buy locally and test them first though, that way you could
return them if needed.

Jason


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-13 Thread SuperQ

bpa;290895 Wrote: 
 The signal from a router with normal straight antenna is doughnut shaped
 with a hole in the middle - so no signal directly above and below the
 router and a weak signal close to router if not on the same level. 
 
 So if SB3 is not on the same floor as the router - try to get SB3 away
 from router horizontally and closer vertically to from the router.

Yup, or change the orientation of one or both of the router's antennas.


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Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?

2008-04-13 Thread davidcotton

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=219368C=MaplinU=SearchTopT=powerlinedoy=13m4

Just a quick heads up but maplin are doing a four port version of the
homeplugs for £19.99.  It's been confirmed that they work in pairs and
can connect up to four pieces of equipment so works out cheaper.  Not
sure how long the offers on for so best to get in quick.  Bear in mind
you need two of these to make a network


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