Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
The wait is over - my Duet just arrived at my door. I ordered it from Slimdevices last Friday. I am impressed by how fast it made it along the West Coast up to Vancouver, Canada! I should have ordered from you guys right away - instead I tried to order from a local reseller. What a big mistake. The first one I called said they had a SB2 on display but wouldn't really oder the Duet anytime soon. The second one took half of the cost right away and promised, after checking with their distributor, that the unit would arrive within 3-5 days. Instead, I waited 2 weeks just to hear that the first available unit would be available in MAY! That's when I decided to bite the bullet, pay for shipping and possible customs fees/duty. In the end I just ended up paying taxes - no customs fees or duty at all! So, Slimdevices still rules and Logitech must do something about their supply chain. It was a shock for me to hear you guys got bought out by Logitech, but you still rock my world. You should be proud to work at such a great place! -- sellars sellars's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=525 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
MrSinatra wrote: they aren't mutually exclusive. They are, when you consider that SD has a very serialized product dev cycle. I would much rather have them spend their time designing something I'd like to buy, because they've got a great track record with that. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
Marc Sherman;279599 Wrote: SD has a very serialized product dev cycle. That actually brings up an interesting point. When Slim Devices was Slim Devices, that may have been the case as a smallish company trying to break out and efficiently focus. However as a part of Logitech now, is that still true? Which begs the question and the point for this post: Didn't Slim Devices BENEFIT from melding with Logitech? Didn't it get a bigger budget, bigger RD, more engineers? I don't know the answers but I certainly hope so as a consumer. And from Logitech's point of view, I also hope so. I mean, I hope that Logitech doesn't just look at Slim Devices the way England looked at the original American colonies pre-Revolutionary war, just to be milked. I assume that Logitech saw the vision for a stronger Slim Devices by helping it expand beyond its relatively humble beginnings. Isn't that so? As an analogy, if you are familiar with the pro audio world, a smallish company known as M-Audio (originally known as MidiMan) grew quickly, caught the eye of Digidesign, which bought it. Now M-Audio is bigger and better than ever, releasing ever more products every year. (And Digidesign had previously been purchased by Avid, that accelerated its own growth). -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
mortslim;279606 Wrote: Which begs the question and the point for this post: Didn't Slim Devices BENEFIT from melding with Logitech? Didn't it get a bigger budget, bigger RD, more engineers? Oh, I am sure that is true: look at the Duet beta: they gave out a ton of SBC's to get testing done. The Old SlimDevices probably didn't have that kind of money; Logitech no doubt opened their wallets some and said, If it will make a better product, go for it. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
Marc Sherman;279599 Wrote: MrSinatra wrote: they aren't mutually exclusive. They are, when you consider that SD has a very serialized product dev cycle. I would much rather have them spend their time designing something I'd like to buy, because they've got a great track record with that. - Marc well obviously i disagree. u can keep the server / client model, you just put them in the same small as u can get quiet as you can get, cheap as you can get box. so you don't want to buy it, so what? obviously others would. but i don't feel like debating this at the moment and this isn't the thread for it. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
JHC;279025 Wrote: my only experiencing with streaming audio was with a Netgear MP101 going to a J. River Media Center backend. I have a library of just over 45,000 songs. The MP101 experience was frustrating.. a lot of times it worked but rarely survived an entire evening without having to reboot either the MP101 itself or Media Center... not exactly a real plug and play solution. I've got to add a me too here. For me, it was an MP101, Twonky server and iTunes backend. The difference when I got my first SB3 was like night and day. I will always remember the huge grin on my face when I played Dark Side Of The Moon through it for the first time; glorious lossless quality, perfectly gapless and really, really loud ;-) An absolutely superb piece of kit that has 100% changed how I listen to my music!! Good work! -- moley6knipe 2 x SqueezeBox 3 | 1 x SqueezeCenter 7 | 1 x Win XP Pro SP2 | 1 x Happy listener :-) moley6knipe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10014 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
MrSinatra;279654 Wrote: u can keep the server / client model, you just put them in the same small as u can get quiet as you can get, cheap as you can get box. http://www.olive.us/home.html -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
I have been with slim devices since I bought 3 slimp3s many moon ago. I used a Mac as my server and had quite a few issues initially and remember my many emails to tech support were often from Sean himself, and many of my issues were fixed in a day or two with the nightlies. I now have 3 SBIIIs and 1 SB and am now the proud and happy owner of a duet system. I was worried that the company would change with the logitech buy-out, but those concerns have been shown unfounded. thanks Sean! -dale -- shadowboxer shadowboxer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8302 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
And they just keep coming with good stuff years after you bought your device. Had mine SB3 for two years or so and there are new features added all the time whithout any extra cost. Beat that random company if you can. -- bernt http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/ bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
Count me in too! Great product! Using Rhapsody, Squeezecenter and the TiVo add-in for WHS on my NAS and it works great. Was using MP3tunes prior to the NAS but I was experiencing too many dropouts. I only hope that someday I'll be able to stream to the duet controller, that will be the icing on the cake. -- MBSqueeze MBSqueeze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15571 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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My experience with digital streaming goes back to the Rio/Dell Digital Audio Receiver. No sync, no internet radio back then. It came with software versioned 1.03, which never changed in the years that I struggled with those things. The Slim Devices hardware is great, certainly, but the I think the attention to the software is what really sets it apart. Although some here complain about bugs, dropouts, slowness, etc., I am not sure that the success stories are so vivid. Also, I am not sure that the contribution of the user-base to the software development is fully appreciated either (I'll take the opportunity to applaud the Nokia skin, iPeng, SuperDateTime, among others that I rely on daily). I have had my share of issues, but these have been solved. How many other hardware manufacturers do that so consistently? I have had gps devices, pocket PCs, phones, computers, even cars, all of which with issues that absolutely never receive attention from the manufacturer. I am always surprised when I see complaints about overly frequent updates to software and firmware here. So yes, count me in as well. Great products. Ordered my Duet yesterday. Waiting for the shipping email. -- ds2021 ds2021's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
Thanks for sharing your experience JHC! -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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seanadams;279215 Wrote: Thanks for sharing your experience JHC! Now that is why I have purchased from Slim Devices. Sean has always been all over the forums responding to all sorts of posts. I have yet to see the same behavior from any other company. I have a SB3 now, and will be buying a Duet based 50 percent on the product itself, and 50 percent on the support from the community and the company principals themselves. That actually reminds me...used to be I could find all the old press releases/blog posts from the Slimp3 days on the site (if I remember correctly one of those posts had a photo of Sean working with a soldering gun). Any chance that is still available in an archive somewhere? I loved reading through the old info just to see how far the company has come... -- boerner boerner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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http://web.archive.org/web/20021112224742/images.slimdevices.com/photos/assembly/sean.jpeg ... but I have since been replaced by a big machine for this. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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looks like ur testing the S/N ratio of that frosty beverage. the jive absolutely floors me. i'm rarely blown away by electronics, in fact even my SB2 didn't impress me like this has. the only thing i can compare it is my first exp with a Tivo, (series 2) and i think this surpasses it. just amazing. i hope this ends all the logitech fears... i thought LT was a good move then and now i think the duet proves it. now, here's what i hope is next... a SB that has SC7 in it! it gets music via usb or mapped network drive... that in combo with the jive would be unstoppable. (and might be a way around DRM he adds tantalizingly, ie copy the drm song to temp location on the SB/SC combo and play from there using internal audio driver) but i really am curious where you guys will go from here? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
seanadams wrote: http://web.archive.org/web/20021112224742/images.slimdevices.com/photos/assembly/sean.jpeg ... but I have since been replaced by a big machine for this. Assimilated, even. ;) R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
After a Squeezebox 2 and 3 I wasn't sure if I really needed a Duet. I've played around with: - laptop in a recliner in living room (too wonky) - iPod Touch and iPeng (too slow) - even have a Vista Media Center PC ... (ugh, TV recording is great but Microsoft hasn't figured out Music) But the Duet has been by far the best overall music listening experience. There's something about effortless browsing that transforms the experience. I wasn't so sure that Logitech and Slimdevices was gonna work out as a pair (I have a Logitech 1000 Universal Remote and it is a combination of innovative hardware and incredibly dumb software) but know I kinda see how well this Slimdevices marriage may work out. Looking forward to Slimbox 5. Thanks! -BobT -- ripster ripster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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MrSinatra;279384 Wrote: now, here's what i hope is next... a SB that has SC7 in it! That again? If you want a small computer, just buy one. Or start a company called Fat Devices. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Pale Blue Ego;279452 Wrote: That again? If you want a small computer, just buy one. Or start a company called Fat Devices. Feel better now? No reason to jump on him. He's only expressing his view. Jeez... . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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This from the king of keeping his emotions in check. :) I kid, I kid! But I also agree that if you put too much in the SB itself, you may as well use a HTPC. I like the current client/server model. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:57 PM, haunyack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pale Blue Ego;279452 Wrote: That again? If you want a small computer, just buy one. Or start a company called Fat Devices. Feel better now? No reason to jump on him. He's only expressing his view. Jeez... . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
they aren't mutually exclusive. but i think we've gone OT enough. no harm done. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Mitch Harding;279458 Wrote: This from the king of keeping his emotions in check. :) I kid, I kid! I'm learning (impaired) Yuk yuk. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
I meant to write this as soon as I got my Duet (last Friday) but am only just now pulling myself away from it long enough to write anything ;-). A bit of background -- my only experiencing with streaming audio was with a Netgear MP101 going to a J. River Media Center backend. I have a library of just over 45,000 songs. The MP101 experience was frustrating.. a lot of times it worked but rarely survived an entire evening without having to reboot either the MP101 itself or Media Center... not exactly a real plug and play solution. Just before Christmas I was about to pull the trigger on a Sonos system -- and just as I was getting ready, they decided to no longer sell directly to Canada... and with no distributor near me it looked like I was without options. Ironically, someone on the Sonos forum pointed me in this direction, mentioning the upcoming Jive release. So I found myself here, reading everything I could. The price looked right and unlike the Sonos, it looked like I'd have no issues with Library size etc. Eventually, after installing SC7 and getting up to speed (and opening a couple of QA issues) I jumped in for a pre-order. So now that I have my Duet, I can tell you it exceeds all expectations. The pictures don't do this thing justice -- it is much nice looking than I've seen in pictures... overall, the build quality is excellent. The experience is better than expected too. I find the web interface to be a little slow and clunky (but very impressive given what one has to work with in a browser) but the controller is an absolute joy to use... speedy and responsive. I've been tinkering and playing with this thing for four days now and have had no glitches at all... it just works. I love the community aspect -- the open source server, the active forums and the responsive bug tracking system and QA people. I opened three issues prior to the SC7 release and on each occasion, emails flew back and forth until we found the root issues... excellent. To top it all off, when the pre-order shipments got delayed, you guys made a very classy move and shipped for free! So thanks guys for an excellent product and a fantastic experience. Since Friday, three other people in my office have placed orders... so I hope this thing proves to be smash success for you guys. Best regards, Jonathan -- JHC JHC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
