Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
I didn't encounter stuttering. The music would stop and the SBR would cycle through the lights showing it was reestablishing its connection with the server. The song would start from the beginning, and then just stop until it started playing from the beginning again. This would start minutes after the microwave was done and would continue until I cleared the playlist and started again. The controller is on the side of the SBR opposite the microwave. It never has a problem and is part of what gave me the idea of moving them apart a little bit. So the stuttering problem might be different than what I was experiencing. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 10.2 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:48 PM, jaw5279 < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I also have a Panasonic microwave and get stuttering from my duet > whenever it is used and I have music going. As soon as it cuts off, > all returns to normal. This is a mid level model that I got from > Amazon a couple of years ago. The Duet hardware is several rooms/walls > away. I had this happen for the first time with the Boom in my Kitchen. It only happens for FLAC files (due to the increased bandwidth) so I turned on bitrate limiting (320Kbps) and the problem was solved. If you haven't tried that, you might prefer the small decrease in quality over the stuttering due to bandwidth issues. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
I also have a Panasonic microwave and get stuttering from my duet whenever it is used and I have music going. As soon as it cuts off, all returns to normal. This is a mid level model that I got from Amazon a couple of years ago. The Duet hardware is several rooms/walls away. -- jaw5279 jaw5279's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16241 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
maggior;350003 Wrote: > As an experiment, I moved the microwave to the left about an inch and > the duet to the right a couple of inches and voila! no more issues. A > mere 3 inches of additional separation made the difference! I was > pleasantly surprised. Wow! That's pretty crazy that only 3 inches made a difference. Both my Boom and Micro are mounted, though, so I can't easily move them. Here, it hasn't been too bad working around it by timing the microwave with song starts and doing my stirring at song transitions. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
The other day I noticed that the microwave was creating havoc with my Duet in the kitchen. It would just clobber it requiring me to clear out the playlist and start over again. I was reminded of a posting I made here boasting that my Duet was immune to the effects of my microwave. So I thought back on what had changed since then and remembered that I had moved the setup to another room for a party my wife was having with her friends from the MOMS club. It seemed like the problems started after that. I figured perhaps I didn't put things back exactly as they had been. As an experiment, I moved the microwave to the left about an inch and the duet to the right a couple of inches and voila! no more issues. A mere 3 inches of additional separation made the difference! I was pleasantly surprised. If you are having issues with the microwave causing interference, you might want to just add a little more separation - it may make all of the difference. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 10.2 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
To sum up after reading all of the posts on this thread. It seems there is something special about Panasonic microwaves that makes them interfere with SBs, so there probably isn't a fault on the unit. Wired connection appears to be out because no holes are wanted in the woodwork. IMO this leaves mains dataplug connection as the most likely solution. I use the Homeplug system and it worked straight out of the box, no dropouts and good data transmission rates. Just plug in at the router and SB ends and connect up. It also means that if you want to move the SB, you just unplug the dataplug and plug in at the new location. -- Lesu Lesu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15321 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
You really need to get an engineer to test that your oven is not leaking microwaves, its a pretty easy test, but requires the right gear (I use microwave analysers in my work) it is possible that there could be a fault with your oven. BT -- BigTony We're Only In It For The Music! www.zappateers.com BigTony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
When I bought a Duet, I decided to put the receiver in the kitchen. Usually, it's sync'd with the living-room's SB3, as both can be heard in the dining-room. Alas, our (moderately old) Matsui 800W oven really clobbers the receiver; and when it's sync'd, it takes the living-room with it (the SB3 is OK on its own). So I have to remember to unsync the kitchen before using the microwave. I guess it's not too surprising, as the receiver's only a foot or so away from the microwave (the router is in the opposite direction, but upstairs); but I'm jealous of those of you whose 'waves don't seem to interfere! Current kitchen ergonomics make any other arrangement difficult. Another reason for that house extension we keep putting off :-) -- Brian -- Brian Ritchie Brian Ritchie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2319 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
st2000;337213 Wrote: > snarlydwarf wrote: > > MeSue;337093 Wrote: > >> Well, I DO get perfect popcorn out of mine. Everything is a > trade-off. I > >> wonder if loading up the cabinet between the SB and microwave would > >> help... must buy more dishes! > > > > Buy something with high copper or iron content in the glaze... need > > that for the shielding effect. > > > > So maybe rust-red glaze on theme. > > Oh oh, Or how's about that "other metal" glaze called "Fiesta red" > (a.k.a. uranium)?: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiestaware#Red_Fiesta > > (how far off topic can we get and still have fun? really?) Is Fiesta Red microwave safe? Do you even need the microwave? If my wife told me to nuke a bag of popcorn I'd throw it in the Fiesta Red bowl and be done! -- 4mula1 SqueezeCenter 7.2 + Solaris 10 x86: Because everything else would've been easy! '4mula1 on Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/4mula1) 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
snarlydwarf wrote: > MeSue;337093 Wrote: >> Well, I DO get perfect popcorn out of mine. Everything is a trade-off. I >> wonder if loading up the cabinet between the SB and microwave would >> help... must buy more dishes! > > Buy something with high copper or iron content in the glaze... need > that for the shielding effect. > > So maybe rust-red glaze on theme. Oh oh, Or how's about that "other metal" glaze called "Fiesta red" (a.k.a. uranium)?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiestaware#Red_Fiesta ...(how far off topic can we get and still have fun? really?) ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue;337093 Wrote: > Well, I DO get perfect popcorn out of mine. Everything is a trade-off. I > wonder if loading up the cabinet between the SB and microwave would > help... must buy more dishes! Buy something with high copper or iron content in the glaze... need that for the shielding effect. So maybe rust-red glaze on theme. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
andynormancx;337169 Wrote: > We have a brand new Panasonic that also clobbers any wifi signal in the > kitchen when it is on. Ironically one of its key selling points was a > new design of magnetron that was supposed to be: > > - smaller (despite this the oven is 3 inches deeper than the old > Panasonic it replaced) > - uses less power > - interferes less with wifi signals > > Hmmm... It's all relative. All of those points with the exception of the first should all refer to previous Panasonic microwaves, not the wifi friendly brands everybody else is buying. -- 4mula1 SqueezeCenter 7.2 + Solaris 10 x86: Because everything else would've been easy! '4mula1 on Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/4mula1) 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
pfarrell;337192 Wrote: > ModelCitizen wrote: > > This could be frightening stuff. > > I'm still not entirely comfortable with a house full of wifi and > little > > children (with associated growing brains). My wife much less so. > > WiFi is microwave. Same stuff. With enough power, it can cook raw > meat. > Its supposed to be safe in low dosages. > > As I said upthread, there is tons of stuff in the 2.4gHz range, from > microwave ovens, WiFi, Bluetooth, ZigBee and others When considering environmental hazards, please always remember that toxicity is a function of dosage, ALWAYS. At a high enough dosage, water is toxic. At a low enough dosage, certain poisons actually have medicinal value. People get excited about wifi because it's "radiation". But remember that the color blue is radiation too. That said, I'm pretty sure my very first microwave magnetized all the knives in the drawer next to it. But that was the kind with the hand dial for setting the time, like a washing machine, and it weighed about 100 pounds. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
ModelCitizen wrote: > This could be frightening stuff. > I'm still not entirely comfortable with a house full of wifi and little > children (with associated growing brains). My wife much less so. WiFi is microwave. Same stuff. With enough power, it can cook raw meat. Its supposed to be safe in low dosages. As I said upthread, there is tons of stuff in the 2.4gHz range, from microwave ovens, WiFi, Bluetooth, ZigBee and others ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
alanj;337179 Wrote: > I have found that simply closing the kitchen door or even standing in > the doorway blocks enough to allow the SB3 to carry on working, > although I'm not sure I'm entirely happy being a human shield! This could be frightening stuff. I'm still not entirely comfortable with a house full of wifi and little children (with associated growing brains). My wife much less so. I hope it does not take another twnety years to find out for certin that it's a bad mix. MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
Interesting. I've replaced an old noname microwave with a brand new panasonic. Old one never interfered, but the new one kills the SB3 every time. Panasonic seem to be the common item here don't they. I have found that simply closing the kitchen door or even standing in the doorway blocks enough to allow the SB3 to carry on working, although I'm not sure I'm entirely happy being a human shield! -- alanj Cheers Alan Koolu + SC 7 feeding ==> SB3 -> Cyrus 6vs -> KEF iQ7 SB2 -> Super T amp -> Mission 771 alanj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2017 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
4mula1;337084 Wrote: > My Panasonic microwave absolutely clobbers my 2 SB3s. One is sitting on > top of the microwave and the other is in the living room which is next > to my kitchen. When the microwave is on the one in the kitchen stops > playing as soon as the buffer runs out, and the one in the living room > will start to stutter. We have a brand new Panasonic that also clobbers any wifi signal in the kitchen when it is on. Ironically one of its key selling points was a new design of magnetron that was supposed to be: - smaller (despite this the oven is 3 inches deeper than the old Panasonic it replaced) - uses less power - interferes less with wifi signals Hmmm... -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
I know hubby has an outlet tester. I will have him check it when he gets home. I think he may have had to install or move that outlet when we redid the kitchen last year... I seem to recall that was part of the cursing. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
stuart wrote: > No doubt it's unhealthy to be exposed to microwave radiation. However > unless you dropped it or torqued it (i.e. damaged it or improperly > installed it), I doubt your are getting any more microwave related > interference then from ovens where people are experiencing acceptable > results with their SBs. It does not take an "unhealthy" amount of 2.4 gHz radiation to mess up WiFi. WiFi uses 2.4 because its unregulated at low power. So does a microwave oven, bluetooth, zigbee, and a bunch of other stuff. All the data transfer units in the 2.4gHz range are low power, so they are sensitive to noise, multi-path distortion, and a zillion other things. I spent nearly three years working with ZigBee, and I'm amazed that any of this stuff works at all. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue wrote: > Has anyone here been able to overcome the problem of microwave ovens > interfering with the wireless signal? I even looked up the frequency of > the micro and set my router to use the channel farthest from it, but it > didn't help. > > I have found that if I am listening to my local library and I only need > the microwave for a few minutes, if I start the micro at the beginning > of the song it doesn't get interrupted. The screen might blank out for > a while but it keeps playing. If I want to do a baked potato or > anything long, I guess I'd have to queue up "Freebird" or > "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida." :-) > > If it's internet radio, though... forget it. > > Wow, lot's of postings. No doubt it's unhealthy to be exposed to microwave radiation. However unless you dropped it or torqued it (i.e. damaged it or improperly installed it), I doubt your are getting any more microwave related interference then from ovens where people are experiencing acceptable results with their SBs. It's more likely it's an electrically noisy appliance. Remember you are essentially consuming several hundred watts powering a magnatron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavity_magnetron) or what ever that thing was called they smuggled out of Europe and perfected a MIT's RADAR lab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_Laboratory). I would inspect the outer cover of the micro wave. Is it metal? Is it securely in place? Does the metal cover form a continuous skin with little or no holes for EM radiation to leak out from? Could it be better grounded? For that matter, is your outlet you plug your microwave into (3 prong of course) properly wired? You can buy an inexpensive 3 prong tester or check it with a AC volt meter. You should get about 110 volt across the slotted holes and 110 across the smaller slotted (hot side) hole and the round ground hole and a negligible amount of voltage across the wide slotted (cold side) hole and the round ground hole. If not, forget everything else and fix your outlet!** You might also try fixing your transmitter. Just replacing the antenna with a better one can double the power output. Also move things around. Point source radiation (like the light from a flash light) will diminish at a rate of 1/(distance * distance). So, every time you double the distance from the offending noisy appliance, you cut the noise by 1/4. Conversely, every time you halve the distance to your wifi transmitter, you quadruple the power! There are other things you could try (ground plain comes to mind) but they are beyond this mailing list (and me for the most part) :-). (I'd 1st try a better antenna at the transmitter!) **If you have never tested an outlet, please use one of those inexpensive outlet testers. Actually I'm talking my self into getting one now. How's that for an endorsement. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
I think iPhone might be on the right track. My microwave is possibly ten years old, even my wireless phone is six years old. My microwave sits eight feet from my kitchen SB3 and my main wireless phone station is two feet from my wireless router. I use the UK three prong earthed wiring system. I have never experienced any wireless network interference problems. There are no other wireless networks near my house (I also use channel 13, but I think that is probably immaterial). Go figure (as they say). MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
It's a built in that hangs above the stove. It is plugged into a 3 prong outlet. What I'm guessing is the waveguide cover is plastic on mine. The door does not have anything I would call a seal, really. The door is surrounded in black plastic and it is flat metal surrounding the opening on the inside. I assume the two flat parts touch each other when it is closed, but you can't tell by looking at it because it's inset. Maybe this is where the leakage is. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue;337093 Wrote: > Well, I DO get perfect popcorn out of mine. Everything is a trade-off. I > wonder if loading up the cabinet between the SB and microwave would > help... must buy more dishes! A couple of quick questions. Is the unit a stand-alone or is it a built-in? Is it plugged into a tested 3 prong grounded outlet? Is the inside waveguide cover damaged? Many of the waveguide covers are made from re-enforced coated card stock. These can become damaged when people clean over then to hard which can cause a high reflection which will cause interference. Have you checked the door interface seal to make sure it is not damaged, has a crack, seam, or bend in it? Any area that is not prefectly sealed will allow interference to leak out at these frequencies. I can set my Boom on top of our Sharp Microwave without issue. 9 out of 10 of the Microwave Oven interference problems I solve end up being improper ground. -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, NAD C370, Thiel 2.3 Home Office: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, two VSM-1 Mobile: SB3, Audioengine A5 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
I have my Squeeze Boom sitting right beside my Microwave and I do get interference with it once and a while. Not every time so I find that interssting. My Micro is only a couple of years old and btw, I had 20 year old one before and I still was able to have children. ;) -- froth froth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
I've never had an interference problem of that sort, but then again, both microwave ovens are a fair distance from the router, and neither lies between the router and any sort of WiFi receiver (either Slim or PC). However, I do plan to put a Boom in a cubby directly above the kitchen microwave, just as soon as I: b) get a Boom, and first a) build a cubby above the microwave to put it in. (I just finished the cubby the microwave sits in a couple months ago, and am not eager to undertake another such job, but it's the most logical place to put a Boom, exactly between the kitchen and dining room.) Perhaps over the weekend I'll do some experimenting with one of my Duet receivers in that approximate location, while nuking a potato or something, to see whether the "logical place to put a Boom" is going to be problematic. -- Dogberry2 Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
FWIW, I bought the top-rated Consumer Reports microwave a few years ago, it does not interfere at all with any of my wireless devices, even a Boom that is 2 feet away. It's a Kenmore 6325 from Sears. http://www.sears.com/shc/s/search_10153_12605?keyword=kenmore+6325&gobutton.x=0&gobutton.y=0&gobutton=find -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue wrote: > Has anyone here been able to overcome the problem of microwave ovens > interfering with the wireless signal? I even looked up the frequency of > the micro and set my router to use the channel farthest from it, but it > didn't help. Happens all the time for me. Everytime the microwave is on, all WiFi in my house stops. The solution is to run Ethernet cables -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
Well, I DO get perfect popcorn out of mine. Everything is a trade-off. I wonder if loading up the cabinet between the SB and microwave would help... must buy more dishes! -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
Ours (which doesn't interfer at all) is a Sharp for what it's worth. My wife doesn't really like it because it burns her microwave popcorn. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet. SuSE 10.2 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2 http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
My Panasonic microwave absolutely clobbers my 2 SB3s. One is sitting on top of the microwave and the other is in the living room which is next to my kitchen. When the microwave is on the one in the kitchen stops playing as soon as the buffer runs out, and the one in the living room will start to stutter. Once the microwave is done everything's kosher. I don't think I'll buy another Panasonic microwave after seeing MeSue has the same brand. -- 4mula1 SqueezeCenter 7.2 + Solaris 10 x86: Because everything else would've been easy! '4mula1 on Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/4mula1) 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
This issue piqued my curiosity, so I poked around the 'net a bit. I thought these articles interesting: http://tech.yahoo.com/blog/null/80239 http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/microwave.html It seems you can get detectors, but their accuracy is questionable. I think unless the door or door seal is broken, there shouldn't be any harmful leakage. Anything I read on interference issues suggested distancing the equipment from the oven. Apparently the interference levels drop quite dramatically as you move away from the oven. Slow day at work, so it made for some interesting reading :-). -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet. SuSE 10.2 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2 http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue;337074 Wrote: > No warming sensation... but maybe that is why it was so cheap on > Amazon.com. Is there a way to test for unhealthy leakage? Yes, there are EMF meters out and about but they're pretty expensive for just one use. Maybe you can rent one or have an appliance repairman check it, but that would be expensive too! Sorry I can't lend you one :( SS -- Secret Squirrel Secret Squirrel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4984 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
No warming sensation... but maybe that is why it was so cheap on Amazon.com. Is there a way to test for unhealthy leakage? -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue;337064 Wrote: > Yeah, that is always a problem here... we have wood floors, wood walls, > and wood ceiling (no attic). Hubby hates to put new holes in the wood, > so it is very difficult to run cables. Some people here have had luck with power line networking. I have no experience with it so I can't say. Sounds like a plausible solution for you though. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue;337066 Wrote: > It's a Panasonic, just bought in spring of 2007. Replacing it isn't > going to happen... not after the cursing I had to hear while hubby > installed it. ;-) Plus, I like it. Weird... llike I said it just may be extra-leaky. I personally have never had a problem with microwave interference, at least nothing I've ever noticed in terms of dropouts etc. Even the Boom we have in the kitchen here mounted right above a microwave has no problems when I'm using both. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Business Unit slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
Do you feel a warming sensation from within when you use it? ;-) Seriously, excessive leakage could be dangerous. I don't know if strong WiFi interference would indicate a leak that is strong enough to be unhealthy. Yeah, my wife has to listen to grumbling when I do home improvement projects too. :-). It's a husband's God-given right. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet. SuSE 10.2 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2 http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
mvalera;337063 Wrote: > MeSue how old is your microwave? I think you may have a particularly > leaky model. You may want to replace it. > > Mike It's a Panasonic, just bought in spring of 2007. Replacing it isn't going to happen... not after the cursing I had to hear while hubby installed it. ;-) Plus, I like it. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
CatBus;337051 Wrote: > Newer microwave ovens are better shielded, so simply getting a new oven > may help...Or maybe consider a toaster oven. I just got this one last year when we remodeled the kitchen. It replaced a 25 year old one! I do have a toaster oven, too, and I use it a LOT more than the micro. > You could also get some Cat5 cable and fix your wireless problems > permanently... Yeah, that is always a problem here... we have wood floors, wood walls, and wood ceiling (no attic). Hubby hates to put new holes in the wood, so it is very difficult to run cables. Repositioning the router might help, but I'd hate for it to mess something else up. It's a minor nuisance, but I can live with it. Just thought some of you might have some ideas I hadn't thought of. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue how old is your microwave? I think you may have a particularly leaky model. You may want to replace it. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Business Unit slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
I must be lucky because my microwave never interfers with my WiFi. My microwave is newer (2 years old) so perhaps it is well shielded. I have my duet set up righ next to my microwave and expected there to be problems when the nuke was fired up. But no, it just continues on playing music. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet. SuSE 10.2 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2 http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue;337035 Wrote: > Has anyone here been able to overcome the problem of microwave ovens > interfering with the wireless signal? I even looked up the frequency of > the micro and set my router to use the channel farthest from it, but it > didn't help. > > I have found that if I am listening to my local library and I only need > the microwave for a few minutes, if I start the micro at the beginning > of the song it doesn't get interrupted. The screen might blank out for > a while but it keeps playing. If I want to do a baked potato or > anything long, I guess I'd have to queue up "Freebird" or > "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida." :-) > > If it's internet radio, though... forget it. In short, yes. Run a cable. :( As for it working sometimes, it is a race between SB buffer capacity and the thickness of said potato. Mp3 and thin potato will yield better results then flac and frozen steak. K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 ATGATT: Because walking away in disgust beats riding away in an ambulance. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue;337035 Wrote: > Has anyone here been able to overcome the problem of microwave ovens > interfering with the wireless signal? Changing channels won't do anything--they interfere all over the spectrum. The ONLY thing you can do is shielding and placement. Newer microwave ovens are better shielded, so simply getting a new oven may help. If you happen to have a nice dense brick wall anywhere, you may be able to contain the EM pollution from the microwave a bit. If you can, move the microwave, player, or router in such a manner that the microwave is nowhere near either wireless device. Or maybe consider a toaster oven. You could also get some Cat5 cable and fix your wireless problems permanently... -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
My microwave doesn't interfere with my wifi at all, even the SB3 that is farthest from the router with the microwave half way in between. (It does interfere a little with my cordless phone if you stand right near it though.) So anyway, I doubt this is router related so I guess this means there's something different about your microwave. -- lanierb lanierb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5566 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] The Microwave effect
Has anyone here been able to overcome the problem of microwave ovens interfering with the wireless signal? I even looked up the frequency of the micro and set my router to use the channel farthest from it, but it didn't help. I have found that if I am listening to my local library and I only need the microwave for a few minutes, if I start the micro at the beginning of the song it doesn't get interrupted. The screen might blank out for a while but it keeps playing. If I want to do a baked potato or anything long, I guess I'd have to queue up "Freebird" or "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida." :-) If it's internet radio, though... forget it. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
