Re: [slim] iPhone 7
But for all other applications: since in most applications you are using class-D amps anyway these days you can do away with a lot of lossy analog signal handling if you go digital these days. In the past the limiting factor was the need for a digital deceive creating the input bitstream for the amp but today this is so cheap and power efficient it's really the way you want to go. Especially since you can program that to double as a digital filter to adapt to the speaker's transmission curve, something you'd otherwise do with expensive, power consuming and tolerance-challenged analog filters. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
Yes. Saves a lot of power compared to DAC+amp which is pretty important on mobile. That said... It performs better if you can adapt the filter used to the (known) speaker so it's a more likely candidate for built-in speakers and digital headphones. For the adapter I'm wondering whether you really need an amp or whether a DAC can simply take the current needed (and provided by the phone). Then you could just have only a DAC... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
I've just been reading up on using a D class amp and driving the switching with the bitstream, rather than DAC+amp. I guess that is what you were talking about earlier ? Sounds like a definite possibility. Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
How much power does an headphone amp have to have? Do they need a separate amp for that or can they just drive it through the DAC? If they need an amp my bet is there won't be a DAC. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
pippin wrote: > Ah, yes, it was that one It will be interesting to see the tear downs on Friday to see how they've crammed the DAC and amp into the Lightning plug. Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
Ah, yes, it was that one --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
pippin wrote: > > Nothin in terms of "what they put in connectors) surprises me anymore > after the Lightning connector itself which obviously contains an H.264 > Encoder... Do you mean the Lightning to HDMI adapter ? https://panic.com/blog/the-lightning-digital-av-adapter-surprise/ Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
Well, unless Apple's spec doesn't lie (where I looked it up)... Nothin in terms of "what they put in connectors) surprises me anymore after the Lightning connector itself which obviously contains an H.264 Encoder... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
pippin wrote: > Sorry, you are wrong on that one, Lightning doesn't have analog audio. Hmmm I was -so- sure I'd read something over the last couple of years that said that it did. But I trust that you would know the answer to this. If that really is the case, then I'm even more surprised that Apple are including the adapter and selling it for $9. Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
andynormancx wrote: > The adapter doesn't have a DAC and amp. It just passes through the > analogue output that the Lightning port is already capable off. Sorry, you are wrong on that one, Lightning doesn't have analog audio. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
andynormancx wrote: > The adapter doesn't have a DAC and amp. It just passes through the > analogue output that the Lightning port is already capable off. Are you sure? Can you still daisy-chain it to use with other digital equipment then? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
d6jg wrote: > I suppose the real question is will that adapter (with in built DAC and > amp?) be as good as the onboard DAC & amp? The adapter doesn't have a DAC and amp. It just passes through the analogue output that the Lightning port is already capable off. Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
bakker_be wrote: > This is another consideration: > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/analog-last-defense-against-drm I'm not a fan of the removal of the headphone jack from the iPhone 7. However, they aren't removing analogue, just the headphone jack. When you plug the supplied Lightning headphones into the iPhone 7 they'll be supplied with analogue signals over the Lightning interface. There is no DAC and electronics in the Lightning headphones they supply. There are DAC equipped Lightning headphones out there, but you can still have plain old analogue over Lightning (and could do before the iPhone 7). You can also do analogue over Lightning, while also charging the phone, but sadly not with the adapter that Apple are providing in the box. Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
I remember the original MBA, which I bought in 2008. No CD-rom, no ethernet. So much public outcry... I did use the ethernet adapter, but the optional USB CD-Rom I used maybe only once a year. I'm not bothered at all with the lightning connector. Headphone makers sell products at ludicrous prices, a little less snake oil and a little more R&D and differentiation won't hurt any. That keynote event, though... I had to cut the audio at times. 3 SB 3 Libratone Loop, Zipp Mini iPeng (iPhone + iPad) LMS 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput, Triode's BBC iPlayer by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson AirPlay Bridge by philippe_44 WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
Paul Webster wrote: > However, they still have a DAC because there are speakers on the device > - with the new feature from Apple that they are now stereo ;) > You are sure they use a DAC? OK, it might save them a few cents but it draws more power than a direct class-D-amp for each speaker and power saving is sacred in a phone... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
d6jg wrote: > Logically they have dispensed with the onboard DAC and moved it to the > Lightning dongle. However, they still have a DAC because there are speakers on the device - with the new feature from Apple that they are now stereo ;) bpa wrote: > If Apple is so keen on wireless - why not wireless charging as it would > help avoid using a dual port dongle for playback during charging There were reports a while ago that Apple has put of a request to hardware suppliers to get ready for WiFi charging for iPhone in 2017 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-29/apple-said-developing-wireless-charged-phone-for-as-soon-as-2017-ijz3i4si Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
pippin wrote: > Re: wireless charging: has anyone got a decent solution for that? Plenty > of vendors tried that with Android (and Win) phones and they all > eventually seem to have given up on it, could there be a reason for > that? I think it needed more pull from vendors which is what Apple usually like to be seen to be at the front - even Ikea offers wireless stuff. Google's explanation why they omitted wireless chrging in 5x is a bit lame - wireless was originally included becuase users couldn't plugin USB correctly however now with type C stupid users can plug phones in to charge. > Thanks for being a Nexus fan! We added Qi wireless charging starting > with N4 because plugging in USB micro B was such a hassle! (Which way is > up!?) With this year’s Nexii, we support USB Type-C which has a > reversible connector so there’s no more guessing. AND it charges > incredibly swiftly: 1% to 100% in 97 mins on the 6P for example (the > first ~45 mins of charging is especially fast). Meanwhile, wireless > charging adds z (thickness). So, ease of plugging in + fast charging + > optimizing for thinness made us double down on Type-C instead of > wireless! There are still many phones offering wireless but obviously for the vendors irt does not have enough of a wow/newness factor to sellphones whereas Apple has instead discovered bokeh is now trying to sell it as a mystical way of making better photos - personally easier charging is more useful than bokeh. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
Probably not which is why it's time to get a decent pair of digital-only headphones. Or just use the ones that come with the iPhone 7. Re: wireless charging: has anyone got a decent solution for that? Plenty of vendors tried that with Android (and Win) phones and they all eventually seem to have given up on it, could there be a reason for that? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
Ah. Now I totally agree about the interference issue. I have a very nice portable headphone amp. Won't work with an iPhone due to mobile signal interference but works perfectly with iPod Touch and iPad with iPeng. So I think we are saying that the iPhone 7 won't have a headphone jack but there will be a lightning adapter in the box. I suppose the real question is will that adapter (with in built DAC and amp?) be as good as the onboard DAC & amp? *Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B&W P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
If Apple is so keen on wireless - why not wireless charging as it would help avoid using a dual port dongle for playback during charging bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
pippin wrote: > Conspiracies. > Apple arte the ones who forced the industry to give up with DRM, why > should they promote it now? > Plus: people these days are not in the music (streaming) business to > make money with it, which is part of the problems we are seeing but also > means things like DRM are irrelevant. > > Now that even die-hard fanboys are critical of Apple because of the > headphone jack I have to defend them. > > Doing away with the outdated and expensive analog audio chain is long > overdue and this move, which will make digital audio transfer more > attractive for a few hundred million people will help with that. > > This whole thing with DACs, amps, cables and so on, all this expensive > stuff that only adds up losses is so last millennium. These days you > could build so much better audio devices at so much lower cost if you > built a digital speaker and the technology has been there for 20 years, > it's overdue. What I can confirm is the room taken by a 3.5mm jack in designing a modern smartphone, the problem with antenna proximity and a few others are really horrible LMS 7.7.5 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos 2xPLAY:1, PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne, JRiver 21, Chromecast Audio, Chromecast v1, Pi B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Cubie2 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
BTW: there's something else I'm pretty critical of: inventing a new proprietary BS for AirPods instead of moving forward with Bluetooth development is a bad idea, IMHO --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
Conspiracies. Apple arte the ones who forced the industry to give up with DRM, why should they promote it now? Plus: people these days are not in the music (streaming) business to make money with it, which is part of the problems we are seeing but also means things like DRM are irrelevant. Now that even die-hard fanboys are critical of Apple because of the headphone jack I have to defend them. Doing away with the outdated and expensive analog audio chain is long overdue and this move, which will make digital audio transfer more attractive for a few hundred million people will help with that. This whole thing with DACs, amps, cables and so on, all this expensive stuff that only adds up losses is so last millennium. These days you could build so much better audio devices at so much lower cost if you built a digital speaker and the technology has been there for 20 years, it's overdue. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
Logically they have dispensed with the onboard DAC and moved it to the Lightning dongle. I suppose it might mean that some high end DAC manufacturers might enter the market with a replacement dongle. The points about DRM are interesting. *Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B&W P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
This is another consideration: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/09/analog-last-defense-against-drm Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Car: BananaPi LMS + Squeezeplayer on Android phone - Controller TBD ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
usc95 wrote: > Sad how Apple's solution for the problems they have created is using > dongles. Seems absurd that to listen to music and charge the phone at > the same time we would need to resort to at least two dongles! This one > plugged into the lightning port: > http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F8J198/?clickid=whjX7vxU2T7fXWI2Wdz-6Q-3Ukk1CSS11Sa-Vs0&utm_campaign=Online+Tracking+Link&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=impactradius&irgwc=1&clickid=weOTBpxlKUjSVJkS19XbDwkgUkk1CHT1QWOf3w0&utm_campaign=Online+Tracking+Link&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=impactradius&irgwc=1 > > Apple's dongle plugged into it and the headphones plugged into that. > Steve Jobs must be turning over in his grave. There is absolutely no > consumer benefit to this move. After using iphones since the 3GS I have > seriously been exploring switching to Android. Unfortunately, my car > stereo does not support Android except through the aux port and of > course there is no Ipeng for Android. My 6+ is still working fine and > maybe I will have calmed down by the time it needs replacing but Apple's > arrogance in this whole thing really pisses me off. Exactly my thinking. *Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B&W P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
Sad how Apple's solution for the problems they have created is using dongles. Seems absurd that to listen to music and charge the phone at the same time we would need to resort to at least two dongles! This one plugged into the lightning port: http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F8J198/?clickid=whjX7vxU2T7fXWI2Wdz-6Q-3Ukk1CSS11Sa-Vs0&utm_campaign=Online+Tracking+Link&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=impactradius&irgwc=1&clickid=weOTBpxlKUjSVJkS19XbDwkgUkk1CHT1QWOf3w0&utm_campaign=Online+Tracking+Link&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=impactradius&irgwc=1 Apple's dongle plugged into it and the headphones plugged into that. Steve Jobs must be turning over in his grave. There is absolutely no consumer benefit to this move. After using iphones since the 3GS I have seriously been exploring switching to Android. Unfortunately, my car stereo does not support Android except through the aux port and of course there is no Ipeng for Android. My 6+ is still working fine and maybe I will have calmed down by the time it needs replacing but Apple's arrogance in this whole thing really pisses me off. usc95's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59694 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPhone 7
You don't have to. The adapter is included with the phone --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] iPhone 7
Details were released yesterday. It has no headphone socket! I listen to my music using iPeng on an iPod Touch, an iPad and my iPhone 6 as well as my SB hardware and Pi's. I actually use the iPhone and a pair of B&W P7s as much as any other configuration as SWMBO watches a lot of TV. The later iThingy's have really quite good DACs and with iPeng is able to stream my FLACs at a sufficiently high level of fidelity. I shall not be getting an iPhone 7 though if I have to buy a separate Lightning adapter for my headphones. Why? *Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B&W P7 *Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106101 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
