Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-10-29 Thread garym

I wonder what it is that they're doing on the stream side when they
modify or add their opening "brought to you by" portion (that doesn't
work on SB but does in Foobar2000 or other computer based players).  

By the way, now the mp3 stream just starts with the actual content
stream (no "this stream is brought to you by"). This was always the
case with the AAC stream.


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-10-29 Thread ismarketing

Happy to help.


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-10-28 Thread garym

Working again. Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-10-28 Thread garym

ismarketing;665942 Wrote: 
> I will let them know.

Thanks! definitely seems to be the mp3 stream. The two methods that
work are both showing up as AAC stream.


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-10-28 Thread ismarketing

I will let them know.


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-10-28 Thread garym

ismarketing;639171 Wrote: 
> I do some work for WNYC.  I have reported this issue to Sr. programming
> management.  Hopefully there will be a quick resolution.

ismarketing, not sure if you're still hanging around here, but the
exact same problem has popped up again with WNYC. I was hoping you
could let your contact at WNYC know. That is, WNYC plays via an AAC
stream:

http://wnycam.streamguys.com/wnycam.aac

it can play via searching within SbS for internet radio and selecting
it that way

http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s21605&formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice&partnerId=16&serial=1cda95bdded7f93fa6a8586a815739b3

but IT WILL NOT PLAY ANYTHING BUT THE OPENING "SUPPORTED BY" STREAM for
the direct mp3 URL for either AM or FM.  

http://wnycam.streamguys.com/
http://wnycfm.streamguys.com/

However, both these streams will play ok on foobar2000, just not in SB
players (hardware or software). Seems to be something that happens when
they change or update the "supported by" message. After the change, the
supported by message will play but then the stream will stop (on SB
players only). 

Again, this is the exact same issue as noted in this old thread (I
previously started).


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-05 Thread garym

FYI, I notice that the "fixed" streams for WNYC AM & FM now show the
stream to be 32k from the very beginning of the welcome message (rather
than the 192k welcome message switching to 32k with the content stream,
where previously it then "bombed".  So that must have somehow been the
problem. Why I don't understand, but I'm happy to see it works now!


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-04 Thread garym

ismarketing;639307 Wrote: 
> Thanks for the heads up.

Yep. Working for me now!


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-04 Thread ismarketing

Thanks for the heads up.


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread garym

ismarketing;639171 Wrote: 
> I do some work for WNYC.  I have reported this issue to Sr. programming
> management.  Hopefully there will be a quick resolution.

Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread ismarketing

I do some work for WNYC.  I have reported this issue to Sr. programming
management.  Hopefully there will be a quick resolution.


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread garym

Bill Burns;639150 Wrote: 
> On 7/3/2011 3:03 PM, Steve Baumgarten wrote:
> > As another test, I just opened up SqueezePlay and chose WNYC AM 820
> from
> > the Internet Radio list in my local Squeezebox Server. Here's the URL
> I
> > ended up with:
> >
> >
> http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s21605&formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice,real&partnerId=16
> 
> Working on my Radio too.  Thanks!
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have this link working on my touch and radio as well via SbS. So AAC is
working but mp3 stream is not. Still odd


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread Bill Burns
On 7/3/2011 3:03 PM, Steve Baumgarten wrote:
> As another test, I just opened up SqueezePlay and chose WNYC AM 820 from
> the Internet Radio list in my local Squeezebox Server. Here's the URL I
> ended up with:
>
> http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s21605&formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice,real&partnerId=16

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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread Steve Baumgarten
>> WNYC on my Touch via MySB and SBS and TinySBS is just the intro loop.
>> I did get the AM one to play on TinySBS but a second attempt is just
>> the loop.
>
> Thanks! Same as me then (absent tinysbs, which I haven't tried)

I see my Radio is playing the AAC stream via RadioTime. That might be
what's different. It plays fine. I see that the URL has a list of formats
in it, starting with AAC, so that's probably why it gets chosen first.

As another test, I just opened up SqueezePlay and chose WNYC AM 820 from
the Internet Radio list in my local Squeezebox Server. Here's the URL I
ended up with:

http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s21605&formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice,real&partnerId=16

That definitely works -- I see the AAC stream being converted to FLAC for
streaming to SqueezePlay. I guess the Radio is getting the AAC stream
natively, not sure. But it definitely works.

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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread garym

toby10;639123 Wrote: 
> WNYC on my Touch via MySB and SBS and TinySBS is just the intro loop.
> I did get the AM one to play on TinySBS but a second attempt is just
> the loop.

Thanks! Same as me then (absent tinysbs, which I haven't tried)


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread toby10

WNYC on my Touch via MySB and SBS and TinySBS is just the intro loop.
I did get the AM one to play on TinySBS but a second attempt is just
the loop.


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread garym

So far it seems that one user is saying that WNYC works fine this
morning on SB player and another that sees the same problems as me.
Could a few more folks test out WNYC-AM or WNYC-FM  (radiotime or the
direct links above). Thanks.


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread garym

Steve Baumgarten;639106 Wrote: 
> > Not working now - have you tried WNYC since Saturday afternoon?
> >
> > Both the AM and FM streams loaded via RadioTime have the same
> problem.
> 
> In fact I was listening to WNYC 820 this morning on my Squeezebox
> Radio,
> around 8AM or so. Very odd. I see that the RadioTime web page has a
> problem tuning to 820, tries a few streams but does finally succeed.
> It
> succeeds more quickly with WNYC 93.9. So both work there.
> 
> And these guys work (for MP3 streams):
> 
> http://wnycam3.streamguys.com
> http://wnycfm3.streamguys.com
> 
> courtesy of wnyc.org streams list, just pasting into Foobar2000, not
> necessary tried on the Squeezebox.
> 
> SBB

Yep, these and other reported streams all work just fine on foobar2000
for me too. But not in Squeezebox players (via SbS 7.5.4 or mysb.com;
TOUCH or RADIO or SQUEEZEPLAY).  And just as a test, I can't get these
streams to work (other than welcome message) in ITUNES either.
Foobar2000 seems to play fine, but this may have a better mechanism for
handling the "switch" from 192 message stream to 32k content stream. Not
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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread Steve Baumgarten
> Not working now - have you tried WNYC since Saturday afternoon?
>
> Both the AM and FM streams loaded via RadioTime have the same problem.

In fact I was listening to WNYC 820 this morning on my Squeezebox Radio,
around 8AM or so. Very odd. I see that the RadioTime web page has a
problem tuning to 820, tries a few streams but does finally succeed. It
succeeds more quickly with WNYC 93.9. So both work there.

And these guys work (for MP3 streams):

http://wnycam3.streamguys.com
http://wnycfm3.streamguys.com

courtesy of wnyc.org streams list, just pasting into Foobar2000, not
necessary tried on the Squeezebox.

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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread garym

I've sent a support message outlining this problem to the only contact I
could find related to streaming issues at the WNYC website. A few other
folks contacting them reporting the problem is bound to get more
attention than my single report (keeping in mind that all those folks
listening via the web brower are NOT having the problem).  Thanks.

email contact:

listenerservi...@wnyc.org


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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread Bill Burns
On 7/3/2011 10:29 AM, Steve Baumgarten wrote:
> But try using the RadioTime app to get the right streams -- I know that
> works because I listen to WNYC all the time.

Not working now - have you tried WNYC since Saturday afternoon?

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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread garym

Steve Baumgarten;639094 Wrote: 
> > I'd appreciate someone trying these streams on their end to see if it
> > is something unique to me or ?.  Thanks.  Streams below:
> >
> > http://wnycam.streamguys.com/
> > http://wnycfm.streamguys.com/
> 
> Those seem kind of messed up, as you say. The initial "welcome" message
> is
> fine, but it's a mess after that.
> 
> But try using the RadioTime app to get the right streams -- I know
> that
> works because I listen to WNYC all the time. You just need to
> configure
> via mysb.com, then it will be available to both mysb.com and your
> local
> server (if you are running one), and you can set up presets, browse
> local
> radio, etc.
> 
> SBB

yep, I have the radiotime app. If you access either WNYC AM or FM via
the radiotime app, I still have the same problem of only hearing the
"welcome message" but not the station content. 

Can you try on your end sometime and confirm that you also no longer
get these via radiotime (Like you, I listen to these stations every
day. It has only been since late last night that I've had this problem
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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread garym

Bill Burns;639093 Wrote: 
> On 7/3/2011 8:22 AM, garym wrote:
> >
> > Out of the blue, I can no longer stream WNYC AM or FM.
> 
> Same thing here, running the latest 7.6 beta.  Using this stream
> http://www.wnyc.org/stream/fm.pls
> the intro message plays twice, then nothing.
> 
> The latest MP3 stream, according to the WNYC website, is:
> http://www.wnyc.org/stream/wnyc-fm939/mp3.pls
> but this also plays only the intro message.
> 
> -- 
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Thanks for confirming. By the way, not important, but both those URLs
you posted are .pls files and inside (the actual stream) is the same
underlying stream I was trying:

http://wnycfm.streamguys.com/

Again, I can play on foobar2000 just fine. But I tried as a stream on
ITUNES. And it also stops after playing the intro message. I really
suspect this is somehow connected to the welcome message being 192k and
then the stream being 32k (changing bit rate). Not sure why, but its the
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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread Steve Baumgarten
> I'd appreciate someone trying these streams on their end to see if it
> is something unique to me or ?.  Thanks.  Streams below:
>
> http://wnycam.streamguys.com/
> http://wnycfm.streamguys.com/

Those seem kind of messed up, as you say. The initial "welcome" message is
fine, but it's a mess after that.

But try using the RadioTime app to get the right streams -- I know that
works because I listen to WNYC all the time. You just need to configure
via mysb.com, then it will be available to both mysb.com and your local
server (if you are running one), and you can set up presets, browse local
radio, etc.

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Re: [slim] Accessing WNYC streams Problem - Help Test

2011-07-03 Thread Bill Burns
On 7/3/2011 8:22 AM, garym wrote:
>
> Out of the blue, I can no longer stream WNYC AM or FM.

Same thing here, running the latest 7.6 beta.  Using this stream
http://www.wnyc.org/stream/fm.pls
the intro message plays twice, then nothing.

The latest MP3 stream, according to the WNYC website, is:
http://www.wnyc.org/stream/wnyc-fm939/mp3.pls
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