Re: [slim] How about a for sale section
mvalera;216716 Wrote: This is one forum... it has multiple discussion areas. None of them will be dedicated to selling used items. Is your word final on this subject? Discussion closed? . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated neighbors. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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am beginning to feel corporate culture in these forum lately. Yep, Logitech corporate lawyers will have killed the idea due to worries about liability for stolen goods, frauds etc. if they facilitate the trades. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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haunyack;216725 Wrote: Is your word final on this subject? Discussion closed? I am beginning to feel corporate culture in these forum lately. Whoa. It's their decision. Ease up. It's probably not an attractive proposition, running such a board. It's real work. In comparison, the rest of these forums require virtually no maintenance. Although it would be a nice gesture to offer the community such a resource, they're obviously not obliged to do it. Sales boards on a site like this tend to get few postings. There are generally better places to sell gear. Even Squeezeboxes are likely to fetch more if you take the time to list them on eBay and sell them to a complete stranger. But it can be a lot easier and more enjoyable to sell a piece of gear to someone you've known for several years in a community like this one. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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mvalera;216714 Wrote: Guys, selling your used stuff _is_not_ what this forum is about. boo hiss. Final and unrevokable official decision? -- pfarrell Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html pfarrell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Nothing stopping anybody from creating a ForSale mailing list or website dedicated to Slim stuff, and putting a link in their sig. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx;216744 Wrote: Whoa. It's their decision. Ease up. It's probably not an attractive proposition, running such a board. It's real work. In comparison, the rest of these forums require virtually no maintenance. Although it would be a nice gesture to offer the community such a resource, they're obviously not obliged to do it. Sales boards on a site like this tend to get few postings. There are generally better places to sell gear. Even Squeezeboxes are likely to fetch more if you take the time to list them on eBay and sell them to a complete stranger. But it can be a lot easier and more enjoyable to sell a piece of gear to someone you've known for several years in a community like this one. Deep breath. Calm and relax. Om. ok, I'm back. My apologies to mvalera for the rant. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated neighbors. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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haunyack;216725 Wrote: Is your word final on this subject? Discussion closed? I am beginning to feel corporate culture in these forum lately. Please remember that we are NOT your employees, we represent a good portion of your Logitech/Slimdevices paycheck. Don't treat us as your underling. I'm sure there are plenty of minions in your office for you to subjugate. Get off your high-horse. . Jeeze c'mon. Corporate culture?? That really has nothing to do with it, and it definitely didn't come from Logitech Corporate. I really feel that selling personal items does not belong on this forum for the exact same reasons that Peejay expressed. I just don't think this forum is the right place to be selling things. However as I said, I will discuss it further with Jim C (my boss) when he gets back. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I'll discuss it further with Jim C when he returns, he's out till late next week, but fundamentally it's just not what this forum is about. This forum is meant to be a community built around discussing the use and development of our products, it's not a marketplace. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Universal remotes, Nokias, iPhones, etc. -- bephillips More than 33159 songs on 3246 albums by 2029 artists. Mostly flac, some mp3. SlimServer Version: 6.5.3 - 12361 Mac OS X 10.4.10 (8R218) - EN - utf8 Perl Version: 5.8.6 darwin-thread-multi-2level MySQL Version: 5.0.22-standard On a 1.2GHz G4 Mac iBook with 768MB RAM http://db.etree.org/bephillips bephillips's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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haunyack;216252 Wrote: Me too. Wanna buy some of my stuff? Seriously... I've been considering parting with some of my unused electronics but am reticent to list on ebay. Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated neighbors. . I probably can't afford any of your cast-offs, but I sure wouldn't mind a case of that Mirror Pond pale ale!! (but you can keep the irritated neighbours!) -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/ nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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peejay;197184 Wrote: I'd hate to see this forum turn into a market. This forum is for discussion, not private enterprise. The internet is too clogged up now with people trying to sell something to someone. Keep Slim Devices forum free of that stuff, please. Agreed, Guys, selling your used stuff what this forum is about. ;) Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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mvalera;216700 Wrote: Agreed, Guys, selling your used stuff what this forum is about. ;) Mike Huh? Not sure I understand your contradictory statement or am I just a little thick right now? . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated neighbors. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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peejay;197184 Wrote: I'd hate to see this forum turn into a market. There are _multiple_ forums here. I don't bother reading the Spanish or the German or even the DIY forums. It would be the same with adding a classifieds forum. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx;216702 Wrote: There are _multiple_ forums here. I don't bother reading the Spanish or the German or even the DIY forums. It would be the same with adding a classifieds forum. +1 . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated neighbors. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx;216702 Wrote: There are _multiple_ forums here. I don't bother reading the Spanish or the German or even the DIY forums. It would be the same with adding a classifieds forum. This is one forum... it has multiple discussion areas. None of them will be dedicated to selling used items. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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mvalera;216716 Wrote: None of them will be dedicated to selling used items. Whatever's easiest. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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pfarrell wrote: I agree, I think a separate for sale by owner section would be a good idea. I've got a Benchmark DAC-1 that I'd like to sell to a good home. for sale postings really don't belong in the existing sections. And I'd rather sell it to a smart, talented and good looking person on these forums than some stranger on eBay. Sorry Pat, I don't want a Banchmark DAC-1. :) R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Robin Bowes;216310 Wrote: pfarrell wrote: I agree, I think a separate for sale by owner section would be a good idea. I've got a Benchmark DAC-1 that I'd like to sell to a good home. for sale postings really don't belong in the existing sections. And I'd rather sell it to a smart, talented and good looking person on these forums than some stranger on eBay. Sorry Pat, I don't want a Banchmark DAC-1. :) R. Fully support the idea of the separate forum. Anything tied to slimdevices - based on common sense. I'll be in market for the DAC, and I'd much rather buy it from somebody like pfarrell, then go trough the process on eBay or similar place. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Robin Bowes wrote: Sorry Pat, I don't want a Banchmark DAC-1. :) Then it wouldn't be a good home at your place. But you have to admit that your reply is a tad OT. Do you want a for sale or not? What rules? ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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A for sale forum could be divided into categories. Squeezebox Transporter Dacs Computer products for use with SB and TP eg. routers, servers etc. This could rule out speakers, cabling, amps etc. Seems workable to me. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Pat Farrell wrote: Robin Bowes wrote: Sorry Pat, I don't want a Banchmark DAC-1. :) Then it wouldn't be a good home at your place. But you have to admit that your reply is a tad OT. Do you want a for sale or not? What rules? It was an attempt at humour. You said: ...I'd rather sell it to a smart, talented and good looking person Geddit? :) A For Sale forum? Why not. Rules? Sure, there need to be rules. How about several forums - Slim Devices hardware, related-audio hardware (DACs, amps, speakers, whatever), 3rd-party hardware (NAS, Linkstations, etc). R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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tomjtx;216343 Wrote: This could rule out speakers, cabling, amps etc. What about SB-compatible speakers like Aego or AudioEngine? -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Pale Blue Ego;216396 Wrote: What about SB-compatible speakers like Aego or AudioEngine? Actualy I wouldn't any audio related stuff, but the above should certainly be included. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How about a for sale section
I agree, I think a separate for sale by owner section would be a good idea. I've got a Benchmark DAC-1 that I'd like to sell to a good home. for sale postings really don't belong in the existing sections. And I'd rather sell it to a smart, talented and good looking person on these forums than some stranger on eBay. -- pfarrell Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html pfarrell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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pfarrell;216249 Wrote: I agree, I think a separate for sale by owner section would be a good idea. I've got a Benchmark DAC-1 that I'd like to sell to a good home. for sale postings really don't belong in the existing sections. And I'd rather sell it to a smart, talented and good looking person on these forums than some stranger on eBay. Me too. Wanna buy some of my stuff? Seriously... I've been considering parting with some of my unused electronics but am reticent to list on ebay. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated neighbors. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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From a community standpoint, I think it's a good idea. It wouldn't harm sales in any way... If someone wants to sell a Squeezebox, they're going to sell it somehow. The forum would just make it convenient to community members. You'd need some fairly clear rules and there would be some inevitable moderation, including the locking and deletion of threads. I would hope that's OK with everyone and doesn't raise the censorship debate once again. But the forum won't be for discussion, so it should be fine. I would suggest permitting the sale of anything audio, as well as pretty much anything computer networking related. Again, as a convenience (service?) to community members. Want to sell a wireless router that someone else could use? Perfect place for it. I would also suggest that users _not_ be permitted to post links to eBay auctions or to listings on other for-sales sites such as Audiogon. Require a full item description and a clearly stated price (with or without OBO) for all items appearing in listings. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx wrote: I would suggest permitting the sale of anything audio, as well as pretty much anything computer networking related. Again, as a convenience (service?) to community members. Want to sell a wireless router that someone else could use? Perfect place for it. I'm not sure I agree with anything audio. Altho Selling my MegaDollar turntable because I love my SqueezeBox would be OK with me. I had not considered anything computer or network related since that is too broad, IMHO. I sure don't want to see old laptops, or generic obsolete desktop PCs. Its a gray area. Which is bad. For example, to me, it would be OK to sell a used P3 desktop setup with SlimServer but not a plain used P3 desktop I'd want it more restricted than Jim suggests, it has to be SqueezeBox or Transporter related. Which would allow Benchmark (or Larvy) DAC, replaced it with a Transporter, wonderful with a SqueezeBox. Linear powersupply for SB would be fine with me. $2000 interconnects is marginal. PC audio speakers, list for $10, $2 OBO may get an award for chutzpah, but the listing is just wasted bandwidth. Its such a slippery slope. Perhaps this will end up being unworkable. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Peter;197073 Wrote: Mark Lanctot wrote: Sounds like a good idea but I'm wondering if it would cannibalize sales? Why buy a new one when you can buy a used one, and the bandwidth is paid for by the company that builds and sells the new ones on the same site. Bandwidth is cheap. Not that many 2nd hand SB's are offered here or on E-bay. A separate section makes sense. Yes, it would be nice to have a community away from eBay where you wouldn't have to compete with L@@K GREAT KOSS CD PLAYER LIKE SLIM DEVICES SQUEEZEBOX!! when you enter a search term. A active market for 2nd devices is a great incentive foir buying a new one. You can see that you can always sell it for a good price if you change your mind. SB's hold their value pretty well... Regards, Peter I'd hate to see this forum turn into a market. This forum is for discussion, not private enterprise. The internet is too clogged up now with people trying to sell something to someone. Keep Slim Devices forum free of that stuff, please. -- peejay After Silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music - Aldous Huxley. peejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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peejay wrote: Peter;197073 Wrote: Mark Lanctot wrote: Sounds like a good idea but I'm wondering if it would cannibalize sales? Why buy a new one when you can buy a used one, and the bandwidth is paid for by the company that builds and sells the new ones on the same site. Bandwidth is cheap. Not that many 2nd hand SB's are offered here or on E-bay. A separate section makes sense. Yes, it would be nice to have a community away from eBay where you wouldn't have to compete with L@@K GREAT KOSS CD PLAYER LIKE SLIM DEVICES SQUEEZEBOX!! when you enter a search term. A active market for 2nd devices is a great incentive foir buying a new one. You can see that you can always sell it for a good price if you change your mind. SB's hold their value pretty well... Regards, Peter I'd hate to see this forum turn into a market. This forum is for discussion, not private enterprise. The internet is too clogged up now with people trying to sell something to someone. Keep Slim Devices forum free of that stuff, please. People are regularly offering or asking for SB's in the general forum. I fail to see how moving those to a separate forum would clog things up. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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So far I've gotten 2 additional SB3's plus 2 or 3 upgraded power supplies from posts in the General Discussion forum. I was glad to see the posts! I already had a new SB3 but was curious about the power supply upgrades...now I know! -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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peejay;197184 Wrote: I'd hate to see this forum turn into a market. This forum is for discussion, not private enterprise. The internet is too clogged up now with people trying to sell something to someone. Keep Slim Devices forum free of that stuff, please. A discreet For Sale subforum would bring the occasional For Sale posts in General Discussion there and out of General Discussion - not that there's rampant misuse of For Sale posts that I can see. If they're unrelated spam, they get deleted and banned fast - within minutes in most cases. I can remember discussions of the commercialization of the Internet back in 1992 when I first discovered it. It seemed a bad thing back then and it's now far worse than anyone could have imagined back then. Believe me, I go to great lengths to block ads and I hate commercials more than most. But I don't see that happening here, and I think a For Sale subforum would be a good idea if Logitech wasn't concerned about it affecting sales of new product. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Maybe a forum to announce items going on Ebay? -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34723 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Mark Lanctot wrote: Sounds like a good idea but I'm wondering if it would cannibalize sales? Why buy a new one when you can buy a used one, and the bandwidth is paid for by the company that builds and sells the new ones on the same site. Bandwidth is cheap. Not that many 2nd hand SB's are offered here or on E-bay. A separate section makes sense. Yes, it would be nice to have a community away from eBay where you wouldn't have to compete with L@@K GREAT KOSS CD PLAYER LIKE SLIM DEVICES SQUEEZEBOX!! when you enter a search term. A active market for 2nd devices is a great incentive foir buying a new one. You can see that you can always sell it for a good price if you change your mind. SB's hold their value pretty well... Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
