Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-11 Thread bpa

To confirm the local LMS is not the problem and problem lies somewhere
between Boom, network cable, router, ISP and BBC network, you can try to
play the BBC WMA stream when Boom is connected to mysb.com

Connect boom to mysb.com (you can prove this by shutting your LMS down).
Then play the BBC radio stream using the BBC Radio App on mysb.com.

There used to be issues (I think they're now fixed) about UK users try
to play BBC station using mysb.com as BBC geo-ip locking got confused as
mysb.com servers are not in UK but the actual player is in UK.
If there is still a probelm playing a BBC stream - try using the URLs
below as Favorites on mysb.com
These URLs avoid mysb.com doing a DNS lookup and so get around BBC
location checking as mysb.com server is not based in UK.

R1
mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/bbc_ami/radio1/radio1_bb_live_eq1_sl0#slim:noscan=1
R4
mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/bbc_ami/radio4/radio4_bb_live_eq1_sl0#slim:noscan=1

If the rebuffering happens - then I first suggest trybing your Boom
connected to mysbc.om in a neighbours hours (i.e. different router,
possibly different ISP) - if it still rebuffers then I think it may be a
BBC regional issue.



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-10 Thread Tim-Ann

Hi there,

I seem to have spoken to soon both my HP Server LMS and the Mac Mini LMS
have been re-buffering so that I assume this seems to point to something
within the network that is not working?

Any thoughts?

Tim.



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-10 Thread bpa

Tim-Ann wrote: 
> it must be that the HP cannot cope with transcoding the iPlayer BBC
> stream.

That server is more than capable of doing transcoding - I think there is
something else happening associated with the server (e.g. LMS being
blocked/busy,  security s/w "examining" network streams, some process
taken priority on network traffic)  but if the problem is gone, then why
worry.

A word of caution - the BBC WMA service for UK listeners seems to go
wrong every so often (based on user reports to this forum), so if
service stops check out the AAC service before despairing.



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-10 Thread Tim-Ann

Hi there,

Guess what turning off transcoding seems to have stopped the
re-buffering and I now have both LMS's available should I need them but
I ave turned the Mac Mini LMS off.  it must be that the HP cannot cope
with transcoding the iPlayer BBC stream.

Thank you ever so much for your very helpful advice.

I really cannot thank you enough.

Again many thanks, Tim.



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-10 Thread Tim-Ann

Hi there,

I have never played with the iPlayer settings but when I just went in
they were set to (AAC-FlashAAC-FlashMP3-WMA) I have now set it to WMA
and turned off transcoding.

I have loaded my Mac Mini and no re-buffering issue with it will now see
what the change as above does.

Many thanks, Tim.



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-10 Thread bpa

The iPlayer plugin can play in all formats (AAC,WMA and sometimes MP3)
included depending on the settings - Have you assumed AAC did you check
from "More info" / WegUI display ?

If you set the iPlayer settings to either "WMA" only or disable
transcoding - you can eliminate/confirm  the server as possible source
of issue



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-10 Thread Tim-Ann

Hi there,

My sever is a HP Proliant ML 110 G7 with a G840 2.8 Intel processor with
8 GB of RAM is also runs WHS 2011 wgicg is used to back up 3 PC's during
the evenings alas the re-buffering issue happens all the time so it
can't be due to the Backups.

I also have a current Mac Mini which I'd like to run LMS from when I can
find the correct file to download and run LMS on the Mac to verify if
there is or isn't an issue with the network  I run the new Apple 3 GB
Time Capsule and cannot find a reference to Security/Traffic Handling.

I us the iPlayer plugin which plays in AAC file format, but I do not
have any re-buffering issues with my music folder.  I tried listen again
and it did re-buffer once.

Again many thanks for your quick response and help much appreciated.

Many thanks, Tim.



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-10 Thread bpa

If it was working OK and not isn't - think about what has changed ? 
ISPs can selectivley "manage" traffic with specific sites/stream type 
so just because you have no problem with other sites doesn't mean the
ISP is not at fault.  
Do you get buffering/stalls playing same iPlayer stream on smartphone
and/or pc based web browser on home network ? 

Try playing "listen again" - when live streaming, if there is a BBC
network congestion  - then the stream will have to jump every so often
to catch up otherwise after a while the live internet stream canl be
behind FM Radio by minutes.  "Listen again" is not live and so there
willl never be this "catch up" issue.  If buffering only occurs on
"live" then it is probably a BBC issue.

When playing the station check the more info to determine the stream
type.  WMA is played natively by the Boom so stream will go direct from
BBC to Boom - in whcih case LMS has nothing to do with the playing and
doesn't matter version or server type.

BBC also uses a different "network" to provide WMA compared to WMA and
so sometimes problems are on WMA and not on AAC.

If playing AAC, transcoding is happing so processor of LMS can make a
big difference. What is the processor in HP or server model  - e.g. is
it a small ARM based NAS or a big Xeon based server or something in
between ?

Some routers have more "security" or traffic handling features and if
enabled can "interfere" with streaming data (e.g. holding back packets).



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-10 Thread Tim-Ann

Hi there,

Thanks for your reply, I did say I'm wired but should have said to my
new Apple Router the latest version running LMS from my HP Server, I'm
in the UK and I'm only using the BBC iPlayer listen live as my source so
I'm not sure if that is WMA or AAC it used to work fine and I can't
think of anything that has changed hence my post.

I have not noticed any buffering when playing from my Music library not
tried listen again will do that today and report back, I'm on
Virginmedia 125 GB package and that is not causing any problems I try
not to use Wi-Fi on any of our components and nor do I sync our 2 Booms
and 3 Radios.

Finally last night I did a total clean install of LMS wiping the
preference and start again but alas same problem re-buffering fairly
frequently.

Another quick question which package is for the Apple system as I will
try running LMS from our Mac Mini but not sure which package to
download.

Many thanks, Tim.



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Re: [slim] Internet Radio buffering, Boom

2014-04-09 Thread bpa

Most likely it is your network if Boom is connected via wireless but
more details on your set up and specifc on the BBC stream you are
playing would enable some tests to try.

Is Boom connected using wireless or wired ?
Are you in the UK or not (this affects stream speed)  ?
Are you playing  WMA stream or a AAC stream of the BBC live station
being transcoded by LMS ?
If AAC is being played - what type of server is running LMS ?
Do you get bufferinhg when playing "LIsten aagin" programs or only live 
?



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