Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
FredFredrickson;547426 Wrote: Hello? This isn't an oversized IPOD, it's an advanced peice of technology.Was this needed? Ipod Touch and iPad are advanced pieces of technology. So much so that, according to several Squeezebox owners (myself included), the best way to control a Squeezebox Server is through an application running on an iPod Touch. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
No worse than this review in the UK - totally missing the point of the Touch, that it runs it's own sever!!! http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/05/17/reviews_logitech_squeezebox_touch/ I think that is more Logitech's fault for not sending out good documentation. -- Hugo_NAS Hugo_NAS's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26572 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
The LCD can display photos from SD cards or USB drives or from apps like Flickr or Facebook, but *for $300, I expect more than that.* There's no video playback, for instance, which seems like a waste of the big, bright display. *More importantly, there are no built-in speakers*, here, like you'll find on the same-price Squeezebox Boom ($299.99); you'll need add headphones or speakers to enjoy the Touch's high quality audio streams. Although it does its intended job well, *the Squeezebox Touch's price seems out-of-sync with its abilities.* My biggest complaint in the audio department is the Touch's lack of speakers. *Sure, the same complaint can be issued for the far-more-expensive Sonos Bundle 250 ($999) streaming-music solution. But if you're investing $1,000 in a Sonos multi-zone system, you're more likely to have a stereo system or dedicated speakers.* So... the main complaint about the Touch is that it's too expensive, at $300, to not have speakers. However, it's fine that the Sonos doesn't have speakers, because that costs $1000. ie, the main problem is that the Touch should really be $700 more expensive. Hmm. Not the most logically rigorous review, IMHO. -- oktup oktup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1117 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
Well... from reports I've read around (AVS forums) the main weakness is the display, when used from a distance. Sitting from 10' I gather that would have me squinting all the times to try and read song titles... I think that the display should have been larger, considering they opted for LCD. Back then, VFD was chosen specifically to guarantee readability from afar. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
I emailed the author of the review but I doubt this will change anything. -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT56GL Server: SBS 7.5.0 - dedicated Atom-based nettop - Windows XP SP3 Music: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Duet, 1 Touch, 1 extra controller, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng Theoretical: 1 iPad w/iPeng4iPad Files: 79,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD Logitech: Harmony One x 2, Wilife Home Security jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
He's right. What is the point of having a touch screen if it supposed to be used with an A/V system which is probably IR controlled? The SB3 or Transporter are much more appropriate and easier to read than the SB Touch and the SB Radio and SB Boom, with their built in speakers, are much more appropriate for almost any other application. To me, and I may be wrong, the SB Touch totally misses the mark, whatever that mark is. They should have combined the Radio and the Touch into one product. -- newy newy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
newy;547066 Wrote: He's right. What is the point of having a touch screen if it supposed to be used with an A/V system which is probably IR controlled? The SB3 or Transporter are much more appropriate and easier to read than the SB Touch and the SB Radio and SB Boom, with their built in speakers, are much more appropriate for almost any other application. To me, and I may be wrong, the SB Touch totally misses the mark, whatever that mark is. They should have combined the Radio and the Touch into one product. Well I will preface my comments with I use my Touch with my Headphone rig so for me it is perfect device. I can understand the thought that a touch interface on a device in a stereo rack probably does not make much sense. But my question to that is why place it in the stereo rack? If you connect via spdif most setups would allow you to run spdif easily over 30ft. The other issue is even if you put it near your stereo why is have a Touch interface a bad thing? Yea I know it seems to be the most marketed part of the device but it is far from the most important part. For me even with the Touch within arms length I tend to not use the touch interface much because my iphone with iPeng is just a better interface and this is not really the fault of the Touch per se just the fact that the iphone can easily fit in one hand and is a more comfortable form factor. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
To me it just seems like a touch screen would be way more suited to the Radio so that I could actually use it. To each their own though I guess - I'm sure the Touch fits some consumers setups/needs perfectly. -- newy newy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
newy;547066 Wrote: .. To me, and I may be wrong, the SB Touch totally misses the mark, whatever that mark is. I do see your point, but I respectfully disagree. Touch is packed with features and options to be used in multiple different usage scenarios. Features that may not make sense to you in a rack environment can be very useful in non-rack setups, and vice versa. Some may never even place the battery in the IR remote, some will never use the touch screen, some may never use TinySC, some will never use it's superior DAC, etc.. The point is that these features are all there to fit numerous different usage scenarios, and all at a very reasonable price. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
I don't particularly like it when a source component absolutely requires that I have the remote in my hand to make use of it. At least with the SB Touch, I can still use it if my remote has slipped behind a sofa cushion or gone to wherever remotes go when you most need them... There are a number of other less conventional installation options where the touch interface would come to the fore, e.g., wall mounted controller for multi-room music systems, bedside headphone rig, desktop systems etc. To me, the touch interface is far from the main selling point, but I'm still glad it's there. -- dsdreamer -- Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you... dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
IMO, the SB Radio would be better suited to a bedside headphone rig as it could double as an alarm clock (if the alarm was reliable!). I think the same applies to most desktop situations. I do see the argument for it to be wall mounted although there are probably better options... I love my SBoxes (when they work) but to me, and obviously that reporter/reviewer, the Touch misses it's mark, whatever mark that was. -- newy newy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
That is a really horrible review. I think the reviewer spent about 5 minutes reading the specs on the box and about another 5 minutes listening with some ear buds. What is this comment? I know reviewers try to have some complaint with a product and the Touch is not perfect but this is not some to ding the Touch on. Other question I have is why do they have a big Ad for a reseller of the Touch that is selling it for $100 over list! My biggest complaint in the audio department is the Touch's lack of speakers. Not that I am a big fan of built-in speakers from a fidelity standpoint, but there is no way to hear this device unless you have external speakers or headphones attached, yet it seems designed to be used in kitchens, offices, or on bedside tables. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
I'd love to see the press kits Logitech sends out with evaluation units. This guy clearly doesn't understand Squeezebox at all, but I wonder if Logitech marketing isn't making things worse. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PCMag review of Touch
peterw;546972 Wrote: I'd love to see the press kits Logitech sends out with evaluation units. This guy clearly doesn't understand Squeezebox at all, but I wonder if Logitech marketing isn't making things worse. My thoughts too. The reiviewer's complaint of it doesn't comes with speakers told me what I needed to know. -- brucegrr brucegrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3964 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78738 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
