Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2006-02-05 Thread Jack Coates

PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/06 12:21 PM >>>

Yeah I'm not interested in a video solution from Slim just yet; I 
like the fact that their speciality is an audio device.  



I pretty much agree.  I like having an audio only device 
in some locations.  
  


I have no interest in video -- haven't had a TV in nearly 5 years , and 
we just use a laptop if we ever do want to watch a movie. Music on the 
other hand is crucial. I'll probably get a flatscreen TV to hang on the 
wall when they get down to a reasonable price (maybe two years?), and at 
that time I'll build a MythTV box. If Slim Devices is packaging a 
solution at that time, fine, and if not, whatever. My interest in the 
entire category is lukewarm at best.


Movies require a lot more attention, and my downtime is usually claimed 
by hanging with the kids or reading a book -- these activities, like 
working, support listening to music in the background. My Slimserver or 
a radio is playing music at least 12 hours out of 24... we watch a movie 
maybe twice a week.


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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2006-02-05 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/06 12:21 PM >>>
> Yeah I'm not interested in a video solution from Slim just yet; I 
> like the fact that their speciality is an audio device.  

I pretty much agree.  I like having an audio only device 
in some locations.  

> That said, if they ever do get around to getting into that market 
> I'm sure their solution would be the best.  That said...I'm just 
> weary of it all - I've had a Hauppauge Media MVP for just that 
> since its release (I use it with Beyond TV) and while it's open 
> source and *SUPER AFFORDABLE* (less than $100 USD) support 
> for it has been slow going and sloppy as hell.  I don't see 
> something from Slim being much more successful in that relation.  

Actually, my experience is quite the opposite.  If you're 
already running slimserver, download a copy of mvpmc.  The 
guys on that project have a mediamvp running as a squeeze
box.  I'm running it - it's quite cool.  Now I need to hack my 
mediamvp to have a vfd and it will be kickin'


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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2006-02-02 Thread Christian Pernegger
I'm very interested in a squeezebox version with integrated amplifier,
as I could then replace my radio alarm clock with a second SB.
SB+amp+speakers is just too much clutter for one nightstand.

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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2006-02-01 Thread Jack Coates

Mark Lanctot wrote:
Now that I'm using one as an alarm clock radio I'm 
inclined to agree!


Just something simple.  A small class D amp chip 
like the Tripath TAA2009 - nice-sounding but 
cheap, 9W/ch at 89% efficiency, good for battery 
power consumption and average output power for a 
"boombox".  Good (but inexpensive) speakers in the 
4" range, with possibly small tweeters.  Simple 
but classy aesthetics like a Tivoli radio.  A 
remote wouldn't be required but there would need 
to be some sort of control buttons.


For this use, I wouldn't be interested in 
portability/battery power so much as 
built-in/included speakers and an amp.


And yes, there's no need for digital or analog 
outs.  As you indicate, we have the full-blown SB3 
for "critical" listening.  So Slim can do away 
with the S/PDIF circuitry, quartz timers and 
high-end DAC.



  

I'd be interested as well, particularly if it had an AM/FM tuner.

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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2006-02-01 Thread Mark Lanctot
Michaelwagner wrote:

> Mark Lanctot Wrote: 
>> "network over power" equipment [...] stuff is quite
expensive and very
>> poorly available in this country.
>>
> Not a problem if Slim bundled it into the product.
> 
> I wasn't suggesting you do it yourself.
> 

Ooooh...that would be cool!  :-)

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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2006-02-01 Thread Mark Lanctot
Michaelwagner wrote:
> 
> I wonder if someone's power network solution
mightn't be better than
> 802.11 for an alarm clock - boom box kind of thing.
Since it's not
> truly wireless, it's still plugged into the wall,
why not use the wall?
> 

True.  I was trying to merge the "Squeezebox clock 
radio" product requirements with the "Squeezebox 
boombox" requirements.

While omitting 802.11 would save cost on a 
Squeezebox clock radio device, it would be more 
than offset by the cost of the "network over 
power" equipment.  This stuff is quite expensive 
and very poorly available in this country.

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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2006-02-01 Thread Mark Lanctot
Now that I'm using one as an alarm clock radio I'm 
inclined to agree!

Just something simple.  A small class D amp chip 
like the Tripath TAA2009 - nice-sounding but 
cheap, 9W/ch at 89% efficiency, good for battery 
power consumption and average output power for a 
"boombox".  Good (but inexpensive) speakers in the 
4" range, with possibly small tweeters.  Simple 
but classy aesthetics like a Tivoli radio.  A 
remote wouldn't be required but there would need 
to be some sort of control buttons.

For this use, I wouldn't be interested in 
portability/battery power so much as 
built-in/included speakers and an amp.

And yes, there's no need for digital or analog 
outs.  As you indicate, we have the full-blown SB3 
for "critical" listening.  So Slim can do away 
with the S/PDIF circuitry, quartz timers and 
high-end DAC.

BRB wrote:
>

> A poll associated with this post was created, to
vote and see the
> results, please visit
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185
>

> Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox?
> 
> - I'm interested.
> - No, thanks.
>

> 
> Just to add my voice to the forum: I would
definitely buy a squeezebox
> with integrated amp and speakers. I have a SB3
connected to my stereo,
> but, as many have said in this forum, I don't want
to have to get
> speakers + amp + power supplies for every room.
> 
> I'll use EnochLight's post as a start for mine
(sorry about that 8-).
> 
> EnochLight Wrote: 
>> [...] runs on batteries (optionally).
>>  
> 
> I haven't made my mind about that completely... But
given that the main
> goal of the boombox would be portability, well, yes,
I'd vote on that
> too. By the way, how about rechargeable batteries?
Like a laptop, kind
> of. I haven't seen that in any other similar product
(say, the Roku
> radio). 
> 
> One keeps it in the kitchen most of the time, or at
least "docks" it
> there (every night or some such thing), but takes it
out to the garden
> occasionally. No need to worry about batteries
running out all the
> time, stocking extras of the right type, etc.
> 
> I wonder what's the feasibility (power consumption)
of powering a
> squeezebox on batteries.
> 
> EnochLight Wrote: 
>> No CAT5 port needed; just make it 802.11 G and all
will be good
>>
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> For a device that would be producing sound in my
kitchen, I'd also
> leave out the high quality sound outputs. Of course
it has to sound
> decent, but that's about it.
> 
> EnochLight Wrote: 
>> It could be more expensive, but not by much.  Since
many users might
>> jump ship to such a device if it possesses the same
features as the
>> standard SB3, there'd have to be a happy medium.
>>
> 
> Frankly, I wouldn't want it to be more expensive.
And that might be
> possible without the sound outputs. And I wouldn't
either want a
> boombox with the same features as the SB3. I don't
think I'd ever put a
> significantly larger device on top of or beside my
stereo... and then
> proceed to use the stereo's speakers instead of the
built-in ones. For
> that we already have the SB3.
> 
> 
> Bernardo
> 
> 

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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2006-01-26 Thread Kevin Deane-Freeman

kyleki wrote:

Does anyone know if they're even considering doing this at
Slimdevices?

  

nope.  it is their policy not to comment on any hardare projects.
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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2005-10-20 Thread Jack Coates

superbad wrote:


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185

Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox?

- I'm interested.

- No, thanks.


A few more case ideas with matching speaker / battery boxes. I am
definitely scrapping the clock radio case as soon as I decide which one
I actually want. I also want a boombox version, so I would probably do a
speaker case of some kind too. 


The tough part with docking the current product onto a portable speaker
unit is that you need to run wires on the outside. Ugly. Some kind of
docking port on the bottom would be ideal. I'm not sure if that's
possible with the old geek connector thing.



how you figure? If the docking station includes a power and an optical 
plug in the right spots, it's done. Should have a nice pocket for the 
remote, too -- otherwise you _are_ talking about geekport interfaces to 
make buttons on the chassis work for controlling the stream.


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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2005-10-20 Thread Marc Sherman

CardinalFang wrote:


Like this you mean? http://www.my-noxon.com/noxonfamilie/index_e.html

Just announced, but would't be for me as there's no lossless support so
I'd have to have two libraries of music..


I'd be wary of their localization to english, though...


Five languages stand to the selection, under it naturally German and
English. The NOXON merges itself problem-free into your existing
Wireless LAN network and is compatible to the two usual standards
802.11b and 802.11g.


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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2005-10-20 Thread Jack Coates

CardinalFang wrote:


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185

Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox?

- I'm interested.

- No, thanks.


MeSue Wrote: 


Yes, that's kind of what I was thinking of in message #5 of this thread.
The more I think about it, the more I like that idea better. The
SlimDock! Maybe SlimSanta will bring one… ;-)



Like this you mean? http://www.my-noxon.com/noxonfamilie/index_e.html

Just announced, but would't be for me as there's no lossless support so
I'd have to have two libraries of music..




that built-in fm tuner is critical for spousal approval in my house.

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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2005-10-19 Thread Jack Coates

sleepysurf wrote:
...> Actually, something like a "sled" with self-contained

amp/speakers/power that the SB2 "docks" into would be cool!




good call, that would be quite nice:

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Re: [slim] Re: "I want a Squeezebox boombox"

2005-10-19 Thread Nick Silberstein

MeSue wrote:

Of course powered speakers will work, but this is about being portable.
If I want to use my SB2 outside, using your suggestion, I would have to
carry:
1 Squeezebox
1 remote
2 speakers
2 power bricks
speaker cables
… and then find a power outlet with 2 plugs, connect everything, and
then break it all down when I want to locations again. Not gonna
happen.


DIY! :)  You could do something like the nice wooden case recently 
posted, or alternatively, purchase or re-use a milk crate or box or 5 
gallon bucket or Millenium Falcon or...


Crate permanently contains:
2 speakers
2 power bricks (Squeezebox one is extra ordered from Slimdevices site)
1 remote
speaker cables
power strip/y adapter

If the power bricks and power strip are zip-tied to the side of the milk 
crate or kept in a false bottom (place sheet of black cardboard on top 
with a small hole cut for headphone and power connector) of a box, 
things are kept tidy.


When you want to use the Squeezebox outside away from your stereo, 
unplug the power cable and speaker connections, and place the Squeezebox 
in the conveniently stored crate.  Connect speakers to headphone jack, 
plug power cable into Squeezebox.


Carry your one item (crate) outside, extract squeezebox and speakers (if 
desired; speakers could be embedded/attached to the box, and a window or 
hole could be put in for the Squeezebox display/IR), arrange as desired, 
plug power strip into outdoor outlet or extension cable.  Presto! ;)


This method is not as "elegant" as a all-in-one factory unit, but also 
keeps your Squeezebox available for use inside without sticking an ugly 
boombox on the shelf.


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