Re: [slim] Re: How do you categorize your music?

2006-10-07 Thread Chip Hart
ceejay wrote:
> For each piece (or for a whole CD if all the pieces are similar) simply
> select the tracks in mp3tag and type in a genre string. Done!
> My record so far, I think, is 6 values on one piece...

I've got 20K tracks, 20% of which (I bet) could be properly
multi-genre'd.

> And the ones where I had to stop and think
> about it were very interesting: I found myself listening to bits of
> tracks I hadn't heard for ages, and looking up composers and pieces in
> wiki or allmusic.com for more information. It took a weekend and was
> worth every minute!

1) I believe you, and that sounds like an awesome and
interesting pre-children project :-)

2) One weekend?  My God, it would take me months.  2004 was
already known as the "Great CD Ripping Year" and is not to be
repeated, mild as it was.

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Re: [slim] Re: How do you categorize your music?

2006-10-07 Thread Marc Sherman

ceejay wrote:


So ALL of my classical music gets the tag "classical".  It also gets
one of "baroque", "classicalperiod", "romantic", "20thC".

Except sometimes for crossover work when it might get two of those.

Then its likely to get tagged as one of "symphony", "concerto",
"choral" or "chamber".

So a Mozart symphony would be "classical;classicalperiod;symphony" and
I can browse under any of those genres and find it. Or a Milhaud sonata
might be "classical;20thC;chamber;woodwind".


What do you do with Philip Glass? His work is currently tagged 
"Classical;Avant Garde" in my collection (mostly -- the Low and 'Heroes' 
symphonies add "...;Glam;Eno", and the soundtracks add 
"...;Soundtrack"), but it just feels weird tagging music composed in my 
lifetime as "classical". Is there another word for describing serious 
music written in the modern era?


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Re: [slim] Re: How do you categorize your music?

2006-10-07 Thread Chip Hart
ceejay wrote:
> thats the whole point - neither takes precedence, I use multiple
> values.

Oh, oh, oh.  That makes a lot more sense.  [Mark that the second
message I've replied to today where I misunderstood someone.]

I've given some thought to multi-tagging genres. I've certainly
done a few hundred artists that way, but have been reluctant
to learn of some unintended consequence and my wife isn't happy
with how much time I've spent tagging already (>20K tracks).

> But often I don't know - but I do feel like
> listening to something like... a symphony, or choral, or baroque, or
> piano. This system lets me do that.

Indeed.  The thing I'm always afraid of is feeling like I want
to hear, say, some jazz and I miss seeing Jonas Hellborg or John
McGlaughlin thing because I sub-categorized it poorly.  Using
multi-tags would work.  OK, John Coltrane is 'jazz' with every
not he ever played...but maybe Sonny Sharrock isn't.  

...but do you actually go through every piece by hand?  Aren't
there Kronos Quartet albums, for example, that might need a
half-dozen different tags - in addition to "Classical" - on a
track-by-track basis?  I see my OCD kicking in. 

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Re: [slim] Re: How do you categorize your music?

2006-10-06 Thread Chip Hart
> How do I categorize? Here is a full list of the genres in my library.

I find that, for genres, I have to use as few as possible because
it's so impossible to properly "categorize" everything.

For example, from your list:

> 20thC
> Chamber

Which of these takes precedence?  If someone writes 20th century
Chamber music (and I presume you have a 21stC now...), where do
you put it?  Or 20thC Choral?  

My goal is to have a very limited set of genres so that I don't
miss something I wanted to listen to because I went down the
wrong path.  Worse, once you start to sub-categorize things,
you can play semantic games forever.  Is KISS really hard rock?
Or Glam?  Or Metal? 

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Re: [slim] Re: How do you categorize your music?

2006-10-06 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting kaen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> id3 v1+2 all in lowercase


ACK!  You are hitting my OCD trigger!  Can I come over and fix this to
'normal' case?  Please?  

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Re: [slim] Re: How do you categorize your music?

2006-10-06 Thread Richie

On 06/10/06, Richie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mmmm... When I browse my albums, I noticed that the albums I classified
> in mutiple genres, like "Classical; modern" for example, can only be
> seen in the "Classical; modern" genre. I would have thought that it
> would be in the "Classical" and "modern" genres.

Did you enter the ; character on the Server Settings / Behavior /
MULTIPLE ITEMS IN TAGS field?

Richard



Oops, I didn't notice you were using FLAC. Whilst the above should
work, FLAC does support the use of multiple genre tags.

Richard
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Re: [slim] Re: How do you categorize your music?

2006-10-06 Thread Richie

Mmmm... When I browse my albums, I noticed that the albums I classified
in mutiple genres, like "Classical; modern" for example, can only be
seen in the "Classical; modern" genre. I would have thought that it
would be in the "Classical" and "modern" genres.


Did you enter the ; character on the Server Settings / Behavior /
MULTIPLE ITEMS IN TAGS field?

Richard
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