Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
JJZolx;579635 Wrote: > Quite a mess to support a service available only in Norway and Denmark. > Sounds like another marketing department idea. Is Aspiro actually going > to develop a feed in another format for Squeezebox devices, or is this > one of those "the ball is their court" things that aren't likely to > ever happen? Bear in mind that users living in Denmark and Norway (DK for me) have become used to watching with envy as network players are marketed with support for Pandora, Napster, etc., for those happy punters living in the US. For me, Wimp is a great thing as this is basically what is available here, apart from internet radio. No Napster, no Pandora, no amazon no nothing. So please, more marketing department ideas! -- zunex zunex's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
> Is there any chance of support for 256kbps/AAC on the SBReceiver ? Here's the good news: WiMP handled quickly and now allows us to stream MP3/256kbps to _all_ players. If you're running your own SBS you'll have to update to the latest 7.5.2 or 7.6 nightly, or install the updated WiMP plugin from Settings/Plugins in the web UI. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
> I am sorry to hear that. I have really been looking forward to this. Do > you know when it will be available in Denmark? > If a beta tester is needed I am all in ;-) This is in WiMP's hands - or their lawyers'... They announced more countries for Q4 2010. Don't know more than that. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
mherger;579846 Wrote: > > I live in Denmark and have am active WIMP subscription through > Telenor > > Denmark. > > WiMP isn't available for SB in Denmark yet. > > > So, am I missing something or does this only work for WIMP users in > > Norway? > > Yes, it's NO only for now. > > -- > > Michael I am sorry to hear that. I have really been looking forward to this. Do you know when it will be available in Denmark? If a beta tester is needed I am all in ;-) /Claus -- logiclaus logiclaus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
> I live in Denmark and have am active WIMP subscription through Telenor > Denmark. WiMP isn't available for SB in Denmark yet. > So, am I missing something or does this only work for WIMP users in > Norway? Yes, it's NO only for now. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
Hi Claus, I have a Squeezebox Duet, and I did the following to make it work: 1. Logged on to http://mysqueezebox.com/appgallery/WiMP, and installed the plugin hitting the Install-button. I then hit Configure and entered my phone number and password for my WiMP account. 2. Logged on to my Squeezebox Server software, applied the WiMP plugin in the Plugins section. 3. Opened the iPeng app on my iPhone, hit "My apps" and entered the WiMP application from here. PS. I never found a WiMP entry in the Squeezebox Server home menu though... Strange. //Stian -- stianmi stianmi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
mherger;579786 Wrote: > > Quite a mess to support a service available only in Norway and > Denmark. > > Yeah, it's a pity there's a world outside the US. > > -- > > Michael I live in Denmark and have am active WIMP subscription through Telenor Denmark. Unfortunately I cannot get it to work. I have a Squeezebox Duet and have successfully installed the plugin in my SBS. Hovever when I click configure I am redirected to mysqueezebox.com/appgallery/WiMP but the plugin is not there. I then tried to register my squeezebox on wimp.no/sbox but the form only works for Norwegian mobile phone numbers as a password will be sent to your phone. So, am I missing something or does this only work for WIMP users in Norway? Is there any plans to solve this? Regards Claus -- logiclaus logiclaus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
andyg;579622 Wrote: > Correct. It might be possible to hack faad to support transcoding MP4, > patches welcome. ;) This patch seems to be related to the problem: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2946440&group_id=704&atid=350704 Any chance of a quick solution? Øyvin -- oyvine oyvine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12176 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
> Quite a mess to support a service available only in Norway and Denmark. Yeah, it's a pity there's a world outside the US. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
JJZolx;579746 Wrote: > Then everybody will have the opportunity to pay for 96 kbps streaming on > their Transporters. Supose that transporter owners aren't the main target ;) even at 256 k . But i get some of it, there are not many streaming services at all available in the nordic countries, so anything is better than nothing. No napster no slacker no last.fm no pandora, nothing. In Sweden there is spotify or nothing . And logitech has no official spotify plug in I supose the blocker here is that they always want's on the device support for touch and radio nothing server based. This is a pity, seems that's all new user has made it a fetish to not run a server suffer mysb.com Eu quality and whine :) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE for the rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
binky72;579744 Wrote: > According to the article linked to in the beginning of the thread the > plan is to release the Wimp support for Squeezebox users outside of > Norway in Q4 2010. Then everybody will have the opportunity to pay for 96 kbps streaming on their Transporters. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
According to the article linked to in the beginning of the thread the plan is to release the Wimp support for Squeezebox users outside of Norway in Q4 2010. -- binky72 binky72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7578 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
Quite a mess to support a service available only in Norway and Denmark. Sounds like another marketing department idea. Is Aspiro actually going to develop a feed in another format for Squeezebox devices, or is this one of those "the ball is their court" things that aren't likely to ever happen? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
sbjaerum;579628 Wrote: > So the decoder in Radio/Touch is not faad? Right, it's another decoder. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
andyg;579622 Wrote: > Correct. It might be possible to hack faad to support transcoding MP4, > patches welcome. ;) So the decoder in Radio/Touch is not faad? -- sbjaerum sbjaerum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
Correct. It might be possible to hack faad to support transcoding MP4, patches welcome. ;) -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
My understanding is: 1. Linux based players (Radio and Touch) do native decoding of the 256kbit/s stream. 2a. Older ip3k based players don't do native decoding of any AAC format at any bitrate. 2b. Transcoding for ip3k players is done by the local server using faad. 2c. faad is not capable of transcoding the 256kbit/s stream (although the native AAC decoder in the Linux players decode the 256kbit/s stream) 2d. For server transcoding using faad, a 96kbit/s stream is used. Is all this correct? -- sbjaerum sbjaerum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
It is, but that's the only format they provide. It's better than only supporting Radio and Touch right? -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
How many other streaming music services need to be transcoded by the server? Isn't that a bit unusual? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
The problem is rather technical, but basically the 256k format is not a streaming format (MPEG-4 AAC), while the 96k one is (ADTS AAC). faad cannot transcode a streaming MP4 because it needs access to the entire file. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
mherger;579312 Wrote: > > Anyone tried using Logitech Transporter with Wimp? > > Does it work? > > Don't know whether you've seen any announcement of this yet (I haven't, > but it should be out by now): yes, as of today WiMP will be accessible > on your Squeezebox. > > Unfortunately there's a caveat for Transporter/Classic/Boom: WiMP's > high quality stream (256kbps/AAC) isn't compatible with these devices, > but can only be played on SB Radio and Touch. If you want to play WiMP > on your Transporter/Classic/Boom, you'll have to be running SBS, and > the stream will be limited at 96kbps/AAC :-(. > > If you're running SBS 7.5.1, go to Settings/Plugins to install the WiMP > plugin. If you're on 7.5.2 or later, please install the next nightly > build to get the plugin. > > -- > > Michael Hi, >From what I understand the Transporter/Classic/Boom is unable to decode the native 256 kbps/AAC-stream from WiMP, and conclusively you have to use the Squeezebox Server software to transcode the data stream to a Transporter/Classic/Boom unit. My question is this: are the older squeezebox units unable to play AAC streams higher than 96 kbps, or is the Squeezebox Server software unable to transcode the stream to anything higher than 96 kbps AAC? I'm guessing it's the former? //Stian -- stianmi stianmi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
> But if I bought a Logitech Touch and ran it through my Transporter it > should work fine? And the DAC on my Transporter would still be in use? If you connect Touch's digital out to Transporter's digital in, you should be fine. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
But if I bought a Logitech Touch and ran it through my Transporter it should work fine? And the DAC on my Transporter would still be in use? -- sebadoh sebadoh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
> Why don't those players support 256kbps AAC? I don't remember the details of the file formats, but the higher quality stream can't be transcoded. One is m4a, while the other is aac. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
Why don't those players support 256kbps AAC? -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
> Is there any chance of support for 256kbps/AAC on the SBReceiver ? No more than for Classic/Transporter etc. WiMP is aware of the issue and are testing alternative streaming methods. And dealing with the labels... -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
mherger;579312 Wrote: > > Anyone tried using Logitech Transporter with Wimp? > > Does it work? > > Don't know whether you've seen any announcement of this yet (I haven't, > but it should be out by now): yes, as of today WiMP will be accessible > on your Squeezebox. > > Unfortunately there's a caveat for Transporter/Classic/Boom: WiMP's > high quality stream (256kbps/AAC) isn't compatible with these devices, > but can only be played on SB Radio and Touch. If you want to play WiMP > on your Transporter/Classic/Boom, you'll have to be running SBS, and > the stream will be limited at 96kbps/AAC :-(. > > If you're running SBS 7.5.1, go to Settings/Plugins to install the WiMP > plugin. If you're on 7.5.2 or later, please install the next nightly > build to get the plugin. > > -- > > Michael Is there any chance of support for 256kbps/AAC on the SBReceiver ? -- finnbrodersen Some version of SBServer running on a HP EX490 home server SBReceiver --> NAD C162+C272 --> DALI IKON 6 (let's call it MidFi) finnbrodersen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17360 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
> Anyone tried using Logitech Transporter with Wimp? http://m2m.tmcnet.com/news/2010/09/28/5031965.htm -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter using Wimp
> Anyone tried using Logitech Transporter with Wimp? > Does it work? Don't know whether you've seen any announcement of this yet (I haven't, but it should be out by now): yes, as of today WiMP will be accessible on your Squeezebox. Unfortunately there's a caveat for Transporter/Classic/Boom: WiMP's high quality stream (256kbps/AAC) isn't compatible with these devices, but can only be played on SB Radio and Touch. If you want to play WiMP on your Transporter/Classic/Boom, you'll have to be running SBS, and the stream will be limited at 96kbps/AAC :-(. If you're running SBS 7.5.1, go to Settings/Plugins to install the WiMP plugin. If you're on 7.5.2 or later, please install the next nightly build to get the plugin. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
