Re: [slim] Volume control number changes, volume does not.
PDXMike wrote: . every time I log in and out of mysqueezebox.com it updates the firmware. Is that normal behavior? ... Yes, if your LMS server version is not the same as the MySB.com version (which is 7.7.2) this will happen. Your choices are: - update your LMS server to 7.7.2 - don't switch to MySB.com - do switch to MySB.com and do the firmware update/downgrade every time toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95005 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control number changes, volume does not.
Have a look in the player settings ,you migth have fixed volume set. The volume slider still moves but does not do anything, this is a feature so that ir-blaster and similar plugins can intercept volume changes, even when fixed volume is selected. Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95005 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control number changes, volume does not.
Mnyb wrote: Have a look in the player settings ,you migth have fixed volume set. The volume slider still moves but does not do anything, this is a feature so that ir-blaster and similar plugins can intercept volume changes, even when fixed volume is selected. I didn't see anything in settings on the player that allowed fixed volume. It would be under Audio, right? Are there additional settings available when I control it via musqueezebox.com? Thanks PDXMike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95005 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control number changes, volume does not.
Mnyb wrote: Have a look in the player settings ,you migth have fixed volume set. The volume slider still moves but does not do anything, this is a feature so that ir-blaster and similar plugins can intercept volume changes, even when fixed volume is selected. I didn't see anything in settings on the player that allowed fixed volume. It would be under Audio, right? Are there additional settings available when I control it via musqueezebox.com? Thanks PDXMike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95005 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
Don't exactly know, but somewhere between 7.2.1 and 7.3. -- mooblie Martin at 'HeadSpin' (http://www.headspin.plus.com) mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
After raising a bug about this, I was asked, reasonably enough, to just retest with current SC version 7.3. So, I did that - and the volume response has already been fixed! - see attachment. It now runs (correctly, I believe) in 0.5dB steps down from 100 down to 1 (i.e. with output gain from 0 to -50dB) - following the correct linear path on a log/lin plot. (The final value of 0 = mute.) It now provides the fine control necessary when running the SB2/3 into a sensitive amp at very low volumes e.g. for background music. Sorry to have wasted everybody's time for reporting my testing of obsolete software! And thanks to the team who responded to the bug so quickly! +---+ |Filename: sc_7.3_volume.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6358| +---+ -- mooblie Martin at 'HeadSpin' (http://www.headspin.plus.com) mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
So when was this fixed? Only in v7.3, or earlier?
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Re: [slim] Volume control
jeffbarish;365938 Wrote: Using the CLI, it is possible to set the volume to real numbers between 0 and 100. Is there documentation anywhere on what the numbers mean? For example, do they represent uniform steps in db's? No, the numbers from 0 to 100 do NOT represent uniform steps in decibels - I wish they did! I measured and plotted this in 'this thread (post #7)' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29992), but my call for a plug-in or software fix to change this got no response. :-( The problem, simply stated, as I see (hear?) it, is that -the volume changes are the lower end are too coarse, and at the top end: too fine.- -- mooblie Martin at 'Headspin' (http//www.headspin.plus.com) mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
I looked at your chart, and to be honest it looks exactly as I'd expect. The general rule of thumb as I understand it is that a doubling in perceived loudness is equivalent to an increase of around 10db. If I had the volume control at 20 and changed it to 40, I'd logically expect the sound to be twice as loud - which means the SPL would have to go up by 10dB. Looking at your measured values, that's pretty much exactly what happens (~-18 to -10). Likewise going from 30 to 60 should also be a change of 10 (and it is also actually about 8). If the response followed your linear scale, 20-40 would double the loudness, but so would 40-60 and 60-80. That doesn't make sense to me - going from 60% to 80% (and it is a scale from 0-100 so I'd guess most people perceive it as a percentage) shouldn't double the loudness. Your comment that not much happens as you drop from 10040, output drops from 0 to -10dB seems misleading, because that drop of -10dB is close to a halving in loudness - which seems appropriate for the scale change of 10040. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
Yes, but the ear responds logarithmically, so for each, change by say 10 Squeezebox volume steps I would want a the same relative change in loudness, say 10dB i.e. approximately a doubling. That's NOT what we've got. Specifically: going from 90 to 80 gives a ~3dB change, going from 20 to 10 gives a ~10dB change. Aside from the figures: do you not find this yourself: the changes are large at the quiet end, and small at the loud end? +---+ |Filename: sb_vol_chart.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6350| +---+ -- mooblie Martin at 'Headspin' (http://www.headspin.plus.com) mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
mooblie;366758 Wrote: With respect, I can't really agree with your analysis of perceived loudness or your conclusions. Using your numbers: going from 20 to 40 (twenty steps up) is about +8dB ... fine. Going from 40 to 60 (another twenty steps up) SHOULD be the same (+8dB). Why? 60 is not 2x40 it's 1.5x40, so a level of 60 should be one and a half times as loud as a level of 40. If I didn't know anything about perceived loudness and dB scales I'd assume that 0 is silent and 100 is loudest, thus 50 should be half as loud as maximum, which is around -10dB. Likewise 25 should be a quarter of maximum which is around -20dB. Clearly the numbers you've measured are indicating -8 and -16 rather than -10 and -20 but the relationship is the same. I actually think it -should- double in loudness for each, say, twenty steps Well you're welcome to want that, and what you propose would certainly achieve it, I'm just challenging your implied assertion that the current situation is wrong in some way. For a 0-100 scale with no displayed unit I think it makes perfect sense - the implication is that it's a linear scale from 0-100% of maximum perceived loudness. Aside from the figures: do you not find this yourself: the perceived volume changes are large at the quiet end, and small at the loud end? Sure, but I can't say it bothers me. And to be clear, I wouldn't object to it being changed, I can adjust to holding down the remote button a little longer or shorter time :) I just don't see any need to change it, as it's behaving is a completely logical manner to me. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
Well, we'll have to agree to differ on this one. :-) -- mooblie Martin at 'Headspin' (http://www.headspin.plus.com) mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:03 AM, mooblie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, we'll have to agree to differ on this one. :-) FWIW there was a significant change to the volume curve for SB2+ devices several years ago. You might want to search for the discussion of that change. As you've demonstrated, there's always going to be someone who would like the curve to be different. At this point in the product lifecycle, a change of any real substance would likely bring in a torrent of why did you change that?! and give me an option to switch back! or whatever. If the underlying volume curve logic were in the server then it could be altered by anyone, possibly through a plugin. As it stands it is a device firmware feature so we're somewhat limited. One feature that could be implemented would be to modify where the 1-11 scale in the web UI map to the 1-100 in the player UI. This has been requested before and I think it would be doable in software via a patch or a plugin. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
Hmm. Thanks Ben - shame. OK: NOT so easily fixed then as I glibly suggested - I guess there's little appetite for firmware changes unless absolutely necessary? -- mooblie Martin at 'Headspin' (http://www.headspin.plus.com) mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:18 AM, mooblie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. Thanks Ben - shame. OK: NOT so easily fixed then as I glibly suggested - I guess there's little appetite for firmware changes unless absolutely necessary? I think a change like that is mostly a matter of priorities because a select few people have all three of: 1) the firmware source, 2) the expensive devkit, 3) the expertise to work in that embedded environment. Even then, there might not be room in the firmware to allow something like customizable volume curves, even if it were a highly-requested feature. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
hmmm... every volume control I've ever encountered has deployed a log response, since that is how perceived loudness/our ears work. If you think the volume adjustment is too coarse at low levels with a sensitive amp, just insert an analogue attenuator betwixt SB and amp. That's the standard fix for this problem in every other context. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
It IS supposed to be pretty regular steps: 0.5 dB/step for SB2, and for Boom, 1.5 dB/step at volumes 1-25, and 0.5 dB/step above that. Here's the SB2/SB3/Classic source code: http://svn.slimdevices.com/7.3/trunk/server/Slim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm?revision=24173view=markup Here's the Boom source code: http://svn.slimdevices.com/7.3/trunk/server/Slim/Player/Boom.pm?revision=23831view=markup The main source code is in the Squeezebox2 file -- the Boom code inherits that and merely redefines the volume-to-dB mapping. When you look at the output, they're sending similar fixed values for similar dB settings -- SB2's volume 1 is -49.01 dB, which maps to firmware fixed volume step 232; Boom volume 17 is nearly the same, -48.84 dB, firmware step 237. Both send the the max step value, 65536, at volume 100/0 dB, and 61952 at volume 99, ~-0.5 dB. Below is the map of volume levels to supposed dB gain. If you're not measuring something like this from your Squeezebox outputs with appropriate test material (0 dB white noise??) and equipment, please file a ticket at bugs.slimdevices.com. And feel free to make (and share!) a patch that resolves the issue if you can map firmware fixed volume levels to dB better than the current code. Oh, it also looks like a plugin should be able to get the current volume attenuation in dB programatically, by using $client-getVolumeParameters() $client-getVolume(); Code: 1 = -49.01 (SB2) -72.52 (Boom) 2 = -48.51 (SB2) -71.04 (Boom) 3 = -48.02 (SB2) -69.56 (Boom) 4 = -47.52 (SB2) -68.08 (Boom) 5 = -47.03 (SB2) -66.60 (Boom) 6 = -46.53 (SB2) -65.12 (Boom) 7 = -46.04 (SB2) -63.64 (Boom) 8 = -45.54 (SB2) -62.16 (Boom) 9 = -45.05 (SB2) -60.68 (Boom) 10 = -44.55 (SB2) -59.20 (Boom) 11 = -44.06 (SB2) -57.72 (Boom) 12 = -43.56 (SB2) -56.24 (Boom) 13 = -43.07 (SB2) -54.76 (Boom) 14 = -42.57 (SB2) -53.28 (Boom) 15 = -42.08 (SB2) -51.80 (Boom) 16 = -41.58 (SB2) -50.32 (Boom) 17 = -41.09 (SB2) -48.84 (Boom) 18 = -40.59 (SB2) -47.36 (Boom) 19 = -40.10 (SB2) -45.88 (Boom) 20 = -39.60 (SB2) -44.40 (Boom) 21 = -39.11 (SB2) -42.92 (Boom) 22 = -38.61 (SB2) -41.44 (Boom) 23 = -38.12 (SB2) -39.96 (Boom) 24 = -37.62 (SB2) -38.48 (Boom) 25 = -37.13 (SB2) -37.00 (Boom) 26 = -36.63 (SB2) -36.51 (Boom) 27 = -36.14 (SB2) -36.01 (Boom) 28 = -35.64 (SB2) -35.52 (Boom) 29 = -35.15 (SB2) -35.03 (Boom) 30 = -34.65 (SB2) -34.53 (Boom) 31 = -34.16 (SB2) -34.04 (Boom) 32 = -33.66 (SB2) -33.55 (Boom) 33 = -33.17 (SB2) -33.05 (Boom) 34 = -32.67 (SB2) -32.56 (Boom) 35 = -32.18 (SB2) -32.07 (Boom) 36 = -31.68 (SB2) -31.57 (Boom) 37 = -31.19 (SB2) -31.08 (Boom) 38 = -30.69 (SB2) -30.59 (Boom) 39 = -30.20 (SB2) -30.09 (Boom) 40 = -29.70 (SB2) -29.60 (Boom) 41 = -29.21 (SB2) -29.11 (Boom) 42 = -28.71 (SB2) -28.61 (Boom) 43 = -28.22 (SB2) -28.12 (Boom) 44 = -27.72 (SB2) -27.63 (Boom) 45 = -27.23 (SB2) -27.13 (Boom) 46 = -26.73 (SB2) -26.64 (Boom) 47 = -26.24 (SB2) -26.15 (Boom) 48 = -25.74 (SB2) -25.65 (Boom) 49 = -25.25 (SB2) -25.16 (Boom) 50 = -24.75 (SB2) -24.67 (Boom) 51 = -24.26 (SB2) -24.17 (Boom) 52 = -23.76 (SB2) -23.68 (Boom) 53 = -23.27 (SB2) -23.19 (Boom) 54 = -22.77 (SB2) -22.69 (Boom) 55 = -22.28 (SB2) -22.20 (Boom) 56 = -21.78 (SB2) -21.71 (Boom) 57 = -21.29 (SB2) -21.21 (Boom) 58 = -20.79 (SB2) -20.72 (Boom) 59 = -20.30 (SB2) -20.23 (Boom) 60 = -19.80 (SB2) -19.73 (Boom) 61 = -19.31 (SB2) -19.24 (Boom) 62 = -18.81 (SB2) -18.75 (Boom) 63 = -18.32 (SB2) -18.25 (Boom) 64 = -17.82 (SB2) -17.76 (Boom) 65 = -17.33 (SB2) -17.27 (Boom) 66 = -16.83 (SB2) -16.77 (Boom) 67 = -16.34 (SB2) -16.28 (Boom) 68 = -15.84 (SB2) -15.79 (Boom) 69 = -15.35 (SB2) -15.29 (Boom) 70 = -14.85 (SB2) -14.80 (Boom) 71 = -14.36 (SB2) -14.31 (Boom) 72 = -13.86 (SB2) -13.81 (Boom) 73 = -13.37 (SB2) -13.32 (Boom) 74 = -12.87 (SB2) -12.83 (Boom) 75 = -12.38 (SB2) -12.33 (Boom) 76 = -11.88 (SB2) -11.84 (Boom) 77 = -11.39 (SB2) -11.35 (Boom) 78 = -10.89 (SB2) -10.85 (Boom) 79 = -10.40 (SB2) -10.36 (Boom) 80 = -9.90 (SB2) -9.87 (Boom) 81 = -9.41 (SB2) -9.37 (Boom) 82 = -8.91 (SB2) -8.88 (Boom) 83 = -8.42 (SB2) -8.39 (Boom) 84 = -7.92 (SB2) -7.89 (Boom) 85 = -7.43 (SB2) -7.40 (Boom) 86 = -6.93 (SB2) -6.91 (Boom) 87 = -6.44 (SB2) -6.41 (Boom) 88 = -5.94 (SB2) -5.92 (Boom) 89 = -5.45 (SB2) -5.43 (Boom) 90 = -4.95 (SB2) -4.93 (Boom) 91 = -4.46 (SB2) -4.44 (Boom) 92 = -3.96 (SB2) -3.95 (Boom) 93 = -3.47 (SB2) -3.45 (Boom) 94 = -2.97 (SB2) -2.96 (Boom) 95 = -2.48 (SB2) -2.47 (Boom) 96 = -1.98 (SB2) -1.97 (Boom) 97 = -1.49 (SB2) -1.48 (Boom) 98 = -0.99 (SB2) -0.99 (Boom) 99 = -0.50 (SB2) -0.49 (Boom) 100 = 0.00 (SB2) 0.00 (Boom) -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KitchenTimer PlayLog
Re: [slim] Volume control
In that case, Peter, it's a bug. I've plotted the measured output (blue), compared to your theoretical figures (red) below. Your theoretical figures are exactly what I'd suspected and hoped for - perfectly linear (on a log/lin scale) with 0.5dB per volume step. +---+ |Filename: sb_measured_theory.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6351| +---+ -- mooblie Martin at 'Headspin' (http://www.headspin.plus.com) mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
Phil Leigh;366816 Wrote: hmmm... every volume control I've ever encountered has deployed a log response, since that is how perceived loudness/our ears work. Agreed. That's my understanding - but the SB2 (erroneously) doesn't currently have a log response. Phil Leigh;366816 Wrote: If you think the volume adjustment is too coarse at low levels with a sensitive amp, just insert an analogue attenuator betwixt SB and amp. That's the standard fix for this problem in every other context. Agreed too. This need for an attenuator is what alerted me to this incorrect characteristic in the first place. -- mooblie Martin at 'HeadSpin' (http://www.headspin.plus.com) mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Ben Sandee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the underlying volume curve logic were in the server then it could be altered by anyone, possibly through a plugin. As it stands it is a device firmware feature so we're somewhat limited. One feature that could be implemented would be to modify where the 1-11 scale in the web UI map to the 1-100 in the player UI. This has been requested before and I think it would be doable in software via a patch or a plugin. Mea culpa, everything I wrote above is just wrong. It may have been right at one time but happily it no longer is. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control
jeffbarish;365938 Wrote: Using the CLI, it is possible to set the volume to real numbers between 0 and 100. Yes. You want the 'mixer volume' command. Arguments can be absolute (mixer volume 50) or relative (mixer volume +10, mixer volume -5, etc.). Is there documentation anywhere on what the numbers mean? For example, do they represent uniform steps in db's? You may want to look at the Perl source (in Slim/Player?). Squeezecenter tells players how much attenuation to apply (combination of 'volume', 'preamp gain', and replay gain). For most players, volume levels 1-100 represent uniform steps, ((100 - N) * -0.5) dB gain for the volume component of the attenuation. The volume curve for the Boom is more complex. I don't know if there are Perl or CLI APIs for accessing the current composite (volume + preamp + replaygain) or simple volume attenuation levels in dB. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55863 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control bug
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:27 AM, FB67 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been searching these forums and found out that there were issues with volume control going crazy a few months ago. I have just found out (by coincidence) that I can reproduce this error by attempting to adjust the volume level while the Controller is occupied by a search for an artist. The volume level turns to 100% without possibility to avoid it be pressing the decrease-button. It is very unfortunate since I have all my players connected directly to active speakers, some of them quite powerful ;-) I just tried to duplicate this on the latest 7.2 nightly builds and could not (based on your description). My server is pretty powerful so the search does not take long, but pushing volume-up during does not cause the voume to max out or start increasing out of control. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control bug
I had a different volume control problem and going to 7.2 also fixed mine. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51481 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control, affect SPDIF?
Quoting lovemov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I only want bit perfect. I saw there is an volume knob on the remote, does it affect digital output? If it does, too bad, it's no longer bit perfect. Anyone? you can set digital out to be fixed in player settings. I'd advise spending some time with the wiki and the faq while you wait: specifically: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?HowtoBestAudioQuality and http://faq.slimdevices.com -k ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Volume control - Please make it logarithmic
The new volume scale is far more logarithmic in voltage than it was before. It should be _perceptually_ more linear now in 6.2.1. Some very minor tweaking was done for the 6.2.2 release to avoid some rounding errors, but the overall volume curve should be nearly identical. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
