Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2010-01-29 Thread agillis

jtf;511297 Wrote: 
 Old thread - but Ralphy or someone else - can you tell me more about
 this?

We now use VortexBox Player on VortexBox not squeezeslave. But it does
support viewing with track is playing on a usb attached lcd screen. It
will also show you how much of the track is left and a few other
things.

If you would like to start a thread on the VortexBox Player forum I can
explain how to get this working.

http://vortexbox.org/forum/vortexbox-player/


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2010-01-28 Thread jtf

ralphy;497605 Wrote: 
 I don't know about displaying ripping info but squeezeslave supports USB
 LCD displays on linux, so you can use it to display the current track.

Old thread - but Ralphy or someone else - can you tell me more about
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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-21 Thread ralphy

jtf;496241 Wrote: 
 How hard would it be to support a character LCD? I have a USB Matrix
 Orbital VFD and another (unknown) USB VFD that I'd like to try. It would
 be cool to have it display current track info and ripping info.

I don't know about displaying ripping info but squeezeslave supports
USB LCD displays on linux, so you can use it to display the current
track.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-21 Thread maggior

agillis;496811 Wrote: 
 We now have FLAC mirror instead of rip to mp3. It speeds up the ripping
 process only having to rip to FALC. When your done you run FLAC mirror
 and it will make mp3s out of any FLACs you don't have mp3s of. It will
 also update any tags you have changed!! You never need to edit your mp3
 files just your FLACs. If you use tagrename you can change the genre on
 a lot of files at once.
 
OK, that makes sense.

agillis;496811 Wrote: 
 
 I'll look into it but this is a very complex feature to add. I would
 have to basically rewrite tagrename in a web GUI.
 
Is it that complicated?  Does the ripper call the FLAC command line
encoder?  If so, you can specify the tag info on the command line.  You
would have to have some logic to say use tag info read from CD info
service or use tag info specified in web form.  If your ripper is a
script, there may be command line tools you could use.  If you are a
Perl script, there is a library on CPAN to manipulate Vorbis tags in
FLAC files.

agillis;496811 Wrote: 
 
 I personally ripping without a GUI. When I'm done ripping I open my
 VortexBox share in Windows. Sort by date so I see the albums I just
 ripped at the top. Then I use tag and rename's beautiful and very
 functional interface to fix any tags.
 
This certainly works and reflects what I used to do before I began
ripping directly to FLAC.  

It's not that this is *hard* to do or that it can't be done, but this
means that the user needs to have a separate machine running Windows to
manage the tag information.  

As I see it, Vortex Box strives to be a standalone solution (which I
think is a great goal!).  Not having the ability to manipulate tag
information prevents it from being truely standalone.

agillis;496811 Wrote: 
 
 I's also like to point our we are using MusicBranz now so the tags
 should be better quality.
That's good to know - I wasn't aware of that.

I'll also second somebody else's request for built-in MusicIP support. 
People might use Vortex Box for that ability alone!  If you can go
through the pain of figuring out how to make that work so others don't
have to feel the pain, it would be a big accomplishment.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-20 Thread agillis

pippin;497151 Wrote: 
 I would want a way to select that from within SBS (Controller,
 iPeng,...) but that gets you into plugin development.
 The ideal case would be: Enter a CD-Open CD Player-select play or rip
 option

I don't know anything about plug-in development but I could give you a
simple script to do this. If you added the GUI part into iPeng.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-20 Thread agillis

jonstahl;497207 Wrote: 
 MusicIP support baked in would be the deal-maker for me.  Impossible to
 imagine my Squeezebox without it!

I have been trying to find an easy way to get MusicIP working but it
seems very complx to set up under Linux. There is no way to create a
simple setup script.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-20 Thread pippin

agillis;497426 Wrote: 
 I don't know anything about plug-in development
 
The problem is: me neither
 
 but I could give you a simple script to do this. If you added the GUI
 part into iPeng.
Hm. You mean I could use the Execute Script plugin to do this from
within SC/iPeng and thus would just have to add a menu for this to the
CD Player plugin?


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-19 Thread pippin

agillis;496976 Wrote: 
 The CD Player plug-in should work fine with VortexBox.

Didn't YOU tell me that would not work because the CD automatically
gets ripped as soon as it's inserted?


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-19 Thread agillis

pippin;497005 Wrote: 
 Didn't YOU tell me that would not work because the CD automatically gets
 ripped as soon as it's inserted?

Good point. I could make a way to shut off the auto ripper.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-19 Thread pippin

I would want a way to select that from within SBS (Controller,
iPeng,...) but that gets you into plugin development.
The ideal case would be: Enter a CD-Open CD Player-select play or rip
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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-19 Thread jonstahl

MusicIP support baked in would be the deal-maker for me.  Impossible to
imagine my Squeezebox without it!


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread Ron Olsen

I've been using the VortexBox for the past week and have ripped about
300 CDs. Here are my suggestions for improvements:

* Option to preview and edit filenames and tags before rips start.
* Option to rip only certain tracks from the CD.
* Option to interrupt a hung rip and
a) skip the track, or
b) retry the rip with different options (i.e. less paranoia
checking)

Overall, I really like the VortexBox; these changes would make it even
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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread raven22

Maybe you can make it suitable for the Sheevaplug. Or start selling a
vortexbox appliance based on the Sheevaplug.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread agillis

raven22;496733 Wrote: 
 Maybe you can make it suitable for the Sheevaplug. Or start selling a
 vortexbox appliance based on the Sheevaplug.

The problem with Sheevaplug is no internal hard drive. You can use USB
but the performance is very poor. We have a small, low power (6watts),
no fan. appliance already.

http://vortexbox.org/buy/vortexbox-micro-appliance-datasheet/


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread agillis

bernt;496698 Wrote: 
 
 A few suggestions.
 
 Option to preview and edit the tags before the rips start.
 Option to preview the cover art and download cover art only to the
 current rip.
 
 To make things more iPod friendly embedd the cover art on rips and flac
 mirror.
 Add the itunescompalition tag to various artists albums.
 
 All my covers are named folder.jpg and I mainly use flac.
 /Bernt

1. Option to preview and edit the tags before the rips start.- This
would be quite a bit of work and would slow down ripping. it's easy to
go back and edit the tags latter.

2. Option to preview the cover art and download cover art only to the
current rip. - This would be quite a bit of code but I like the idea.
I'll look into this. 

3. To make things more iPod friendly embedd the cover art on rips and
flac mirror.- Great idea. We now support Apple Lossless with embedded
cover art. I'm hoping the upstream project we are using for mp3
conversion adds cover art at some point.

4. Add the itunescompalition tag to various artists albums. - what is
this? Can you explain it in more detail?

5. All my covers are named folder.jpg and I mainly use flac. - This is
supported already.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread agillis

Ron Olsen;496731 Wrote: 
 
 * Option to preview and edit filenames and tags before rips start.
 * Option to rip only certain tracks from the CD.
 * Option to interrupt a hung rip and
 a) skip the track, or
 b) retry the rip with different options (i.e. less paranoia
 checking)
 

1. Option to preview and edit filenames and tags before rips start. -
coverd in above post

2. Option to rip only certain tracks from the CD. - This is a lot of
code why not just delete the tags you don't want.

3. Option to interrupt a hung rip. You can restart the ripper from the
GUI. It should already auto-retry without paronoia but it tries really
hard with paronoia first. We are always trying to get a bit perfect rip
so I don't think allowing users to disable paranoia is a good idea.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread raven22

agillis;496747 Wrote: 
 The problem with Sheevaplug is no internal hard drive. You can use USB
 but the performance is very poor. We have a small, low power (6watts),
 no fan. appliance already.
 
 http://vortexbox.org/buy/vortexbox-micro-appliance-datasheet/

That is a nice one as well, but it might not fit everybody's budget.
The speed might be slower on a Sheeva, but performance is more than
enough to run it as a squeezeboxserver.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread bernt

agillis;496749 Wrote: 
 1. Option to preview and edit the tags before the rips start.- This
 would be quite a bit of work and would slow down ripping. it's easy to
 go back and edit the tags latter.
 
 2. Option to preview the cover art and download cover art only to the
 current rip. - This would be quite a bit of code but I like the idea.
 I'll look into this. 
 
 3. To make things more iPod friendly embedd the cover art on rips and
 flac mirror.- Great idea. We now support Apple Lossless with embedded
 cover art. I'm hoping the upstream project we are using for mp3
 conversion adds cover art at some point.
 
 4. Add the itunescompalition tag to various artists albums. - what is
 this? Can you explain it in more detail?
 
 5. All my covers are named folder.jpg and I mainly use flac. - This is
 supported already.

I use mp3tag to add itunescompalition tag to my various artists album
so my iTunes library don't look like a mess with one song albums all
over the place.

http://www.id3.org/iTunes_Compilation_Flag


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread maggior

agillis;496749 Wrote: 
 1. Option to preview and edit the tags before the rips start.- This
 would be quite a bit of work and would slow down ripping. it's easy to
 go back and edit the tags latter.
 
 

Hi Agillis -

I'm glad to see that you are continuing to improve VortexBox.  It's
nice to have a simple solution to suggest to new users in the forum. 
Something like VortexBox has been needed for some time.

I'd like to comment on the suggestion about allowing the user to edit
the tags prior to ripping.  I'm not so sure that it easy to deal with
after ripping.

When I rip discs, I invariably end up tweaking something about the tag
info prior to ripping.  This is especially true when dealing with meta
data that comes from freedb.org.  The genre is commonly what is wrong or
left out.  It's easier for the user to deal with at rip time.

Dealing with it post rip is an issue when you are doing a large number
of rips.  You would have to remember somehow which albums you ripped and
go back and clean up.  It also would mean a clear/rescan of
SqueezeboxServer if the files ended up in the database before you did
your cleanup operation.

If the rip to FLAC and mp3 feature is being used of VortexBox, the
user has to remember to go back and retag both versions of the file. 
Eeek.

Retagging FLACS post rip is a fast operation, but retagging mp3 isn't
because it has to rewrite the entire file.

IMO, it would be a big step forward for VortexBox to allow the user to
preview/tweak the tag information prior to performing the rip.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread agillis

maggior;496765 Wrote: 
 Hi Agillis -
 
 I'm glad to see that you are continuing to improve VortexBox.  It's
 nice to have a simple solution to suggest to new users in the forum. 
 Something like VortexBox has been needed for some time.
 
 I'd like to comment on the suggestion about allowing the user to edit
 the tags prior to ripping.  I'm not so sure that it easy to deal with
 after ripping.
 
 When I rip discs, I invariably end up tweaking something about the tag
 info prior to ripping.  This is especially true when dealing with meta
 data that comes from freedb.org.  The genre is commonly what is wrong or
 left out.  It's easier for the user to deal with at rip time.
 
 Dealing with it post rip is an issue when you are doing a large number
 of rips.  You would have to remember somehow which albums you ripped and
 go back and clean up.  It also would mean a clear/rescan of
 SqueezeboxServer if the files ended up in the database before you did
 your cleanup operation.
 
 If the rip to FLAC and mp3 feature is being used of VortexBox, the
 user has to remember to go back and retag both versions of the file. 
 Eeek.
 
 Retagging FLACS post rip is a fast operation, but retagging mp3 isn't
 because it has to rewrite the entire file.
 
 IMO, it would be a big step forward for VortexBox to allow the user to
 preview/tweak the tag information prior to performing the rip.

We now have FLAC mirror instead of rip to mp3. It speeds up the ripping
process only having to rip to FALC. When your done you run FLAC mirror
and it will make mp3s out of any FLACs you don't have mp3s of. It will
also update any tags you have changed!! You never need to edit your mp3
files just your FLACs. If you use tagrename you can change the genre on
a lot of files at once.

I'll look into it but this is a very complex feature to add. I would
have to basically rewrite tagrename in a web GUI.

I personally ripping without a GUI. When I'm done ripping I open my
VortexBox share in Windows. Sort by date so I see the albums I just
ripped at the top. Then I use tag and rename's beautiful and very
functional interface to fix any tags.

I's also like to point our we are using MusicBranz now so the tags
should be better quality.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread Schindler

1). Option to disable services not required

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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread pippin

I would only want ONE additional functionality: I want to be able to
play a CD right in place, like with the CD Player plugin.

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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread Ron Olsen

agillis;496750 Wrote: 
 
 3. Option to interrupt a hung rip. You can restart the ripper from the
 GUI. It should already auto-retry without paronoia but it tries really
 hard with paronoia first. We are always trying to get a bit perfect rip
 so I don't think allowing users to disable paranoia is a good idea.

I have some imperfect CDs (scratches, copies) that VortexBox cannot rip
completely. I've had the ripper hang for more than an hour trying to rip
some tracks. I have no alternative but to stop the ripper, and I'm left
with an incompletely ripped CD.  Restarting the ripper does no good; the
ripper hangs at the same track every time.

To solve the problem, I have installed crip
(http://bach.dynet.com/crip) on my VortexBox. Crip is an excellent
command-line ripper that allows
a) ripping selected tracks
b) ripping a track with reduced error checking if a rip hangs.

I listen to all tracks ripped with reduced error checking to see if I
can hear any glitches; most times I cannot.

If you don't want to include these capabilities in the VortexBox
ripper, perhaps you can include crip (packaged as an rpm) in the 1.0
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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-18 Thread agillis

pippin;496901 Wrote: 
 I would only want ONE additional functionality: I want to be able to
 play a CD right in place, like with the CD Player plugin.
 
 Please :)

The CD Player plug-in should work fine with VortexBox.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-17 Thread agillis

induna;496386 Wrote: 
 I think I understand what happened in my case. I had use Album Art
 Downloader to get cover art. It creates a file called Folder.jpg. The
 Vortexbox album art downloader didn't recognize that file name as cover
 art and downloaded new files called folder.jpg and cover.jpg which
 squeezecenter used.
 
 Sorry for the confusion.

A few other users had that problem. I just added some code to rename
Folder.jpg and Cover.jpg to folder.jpg and cover.jpg.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-17 Thread bernt

Hi!

I'm currently trying out Vortexbox and I'm planning to replace my
Ubuntu server with it.

A few suggestions.

Option to preview and edit the tags before the rips start.
Option to preview the cover art and download cover art only to the
current rip.

To make things more iPod friendly embedd the cover art on rips and flac
mirror.
Add the itunescompalition tag to various artists albums.

All my covers are named folder.jpg and I mainly use flac.

Sorry if this options already exists or if I have missunderstod how
things works.

Kind Regards
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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-16 Thread jtf

How hard would it be to support a character LCD? I have a USB Matrix
Orbital VFD and another (unknown) USB VFD that I'd like to try. It would
be cool to have it display current track info and ripping info.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-16 Thread induna

agillis;496233 Wrote: 
 I am working on VortexBox 1.0. I have added a lot of features requested
 by this community. VortexBox already has auto ripping to FLAC and
 converting to mp3 and SqueezeBox Server pre-installed.
 
 What other features do we need to make VortexBox the perfect media
 server for SqueezeBox or any other type of player?

How about the ability to install supported/included packages from the
web interface? I see a lot of posts on your forum about Twonky, mplayer,
etc. installs. It might be nice for the less technically adept to be
able launch the install process from the web interface.

I would also like a way to disable the 'Find cover art' option from the
rip status window, or to at least have confirmation window with a
warning that it will overwrite all current album art. Those of us who
spent time finding the correct album covers would hate to see them wiped
out with a single button click.

Overall, I really like VortexBox.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-16 Thread pski

I've just installed Vortexbox because I NEED IT.

The HDA is ginormous. How do I copy (move) all the music there? (as a
tree is OTay.)

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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-16 Thread agillis

induna;496337 Wrote: 
 How about the ability to install supported/included packages from the
 web interface? I see a lot of posts on your forum about Twonky, mplayer,
 etc. installs. It might be nice for the less technically adept to be
 able launch the install process from the web interface.
 

This is a really good idea. I am working on it now but I don't think it
will make into 1.0.

induna;496337 Wrote: 
 
 I would also like a way to disable the 'Find cover art' option from the
 rip status window, or to at least have confirmation window with a
 warning that it will overwrite all current album art. Those of us who
 have spent time finding the correct album covers would hate to see them
 wiped out with a single button click.
 
 Overall, I really like VortexBox.

This will not overwrite existing cover art. It will only add art to
albums that don't have it already.


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Re: [slim] VortexBox 1.0 what else does it need?

2009-12-16 Thread induna

agillis;496372 Wrote: 
 
 This will not overwrite existing cover art. It will only add art to
 albums that don't have it already.

I think I understand what happened in my case. I had use Album Art
Downloader to get cover art. It creates a file called Folder.jpg. The
Vortexbox album art downloader didn't recognize that file name as cover
art and downloaded new files called folder.jpg and cover.jpg which
squeezecenter used.

Sorry for the confusion.


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