Re: [discuss] Can't run/install v 1.9.104

2005-06-20 Thread Daniel Carrera

Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:


Mr. Carrera --

Do you know you are showing up as unsubscribed?


Thanks Peter. I goofed setting up my email on my new computer. Thanks. 
It should be fixed now.


Cheers,
Daniel.

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Re: [discuss] Dual Displays in Linux...

2005-06-20 Thread Daniel Carrera

Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:
I was messing around with the Live CDs for Mephis and Knoppix the other 
day and I couldn't find a way to make it run my dual displays. Does 
anyone sucessefully run dual displays with Linux? I assume the answer is 
yes.


You mean using two monitors, right? I know it's /possible/ because I 
once saw a professor doing that (years ago). But I don't know how to do 
it, sorry.


Your best bet is the Mepis support forum.

http://www.mepis.org/forum

The only thing I found on Google was Xfree or X86 or XWin, someting like 
that. It looked like it would work. Has anyone has success with this?


All unix/linux systems use a graphics system called X-Windows. It's what 
talks to your monitor, sort of speak. Above it is the window manager, 
which is what makes windows, icons, menus, etc.


XFree86 (xfree for short) is an open source X-windows system (X for 
short). Because it's open source, it was used by Linux and BSD, so it 
became sort of a standard. Though due to an internal dispute, everyone's 
moving to a new group (a fork) called X.org.


I don't know what it takes to get a dual display working, but whatever 
it is, probably involves doing something with X.


Sorry I couldn't help, but I hope I've at least made the terminology 
clearer.


Cheers,
Daniel.

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Re: [discuss] Digital Signatures...

2005-06-20 Thread einfeldt
Hi, 


I am intrigued by the idea of digital signatures.

Are there any open source (by that I mean free) digital signature services?


Try looking at the links here:

http://www.digitaltippingpoint.com/component/option,com_weblinks/catid,93/Itemid,4/

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Re: [discuss] Dual Displays in Linux...

2005-06-20 Thread Peter Kupfer OOo

Daniel Carrera wrote:



All unix/linux systems use a graphics system called X-Windows. It's what 
talks to your monitor, sort of speak. Above it is the window manager, 
which is what makes windows, icons, menus, etc.


XFree86 (xfree for short) is an open source X-windows system (X for 
short). Because it's open source, it was used by Linux and BSD, so it 
became sort of a standard. Though due to an internal dispute, everyone's 
moving to a new group (a fork) called X.org.


I don't know what it takes to get a dual display working, but whatever 
it is, probably involves doing something with X.


Sorry I couldn't help, but I hope I've at least made the terminology 
clearer.


Yeah, thanks. I found a tutorial the other day called, Using dual 
monitors with XFree86, so I think that may be the ticket.


Thanks.

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RE: [discuss] Help with graphic borders

2005-06-20 Thread Pieter Badenhorst
Dear Rigel
Thanks for the response. I am still strugling with borders. My problem is
that when I paste or insert a photo into draw (or presentation), the line
function is not available on the context menu. This works when I insert a
photo into an html document, but what I ultimately want to do is design my
document in draw (with pics and text) and export it as a pdf file.
Thanks again
Pieter

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Subject: Re: [discuss] Help with graphic borders


Hello Pieter Badonhorst. This is not an automated response BUT. If you want
to add a border, simply right click teh object in draw, and select line,
which will probably be at the top of the context menu, and you'll be able to
define whatever you want to from there.
 The line function simply defines the perimeter of whatever you've drawn on
screen. You can also multiple select items and change them at the same time.
Remember however that any line settings that they had individualy will be
otherwise deleted as well.
 Rigel

 On 6/17/05, Pieter Badenhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone please help: I can't find a border icon. I need to put borders
 /
 outlines around graphics in draw, and can't find the option under the
 format
 menu or anywhere else.
 Thanks
 Pieter




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Re: [discuss] Lingua Latina

2005-06-20 Thread Graham Lauder

Jonathon Blake wrote:


Stardock wrote:

 


create an easier way to put macrons over vowels?
   



Easier than what?

I can type them directly from my keyboard.

xan

jonathon
 



Cool, perhaps you could explain how, for Stardocks benefit.

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Re: [discuss] Digital Signatures...

2005-06-20 Thread Sweet Coffee
Hello Everyone!

This is a very informative discussion for me.  I have never really had
a clear understanding of Private Keys and digital signatures.

Can anyone recommend a very, very, very basic article or reading about
it.  I would like to essentially begin at the bottom with this
subject and slowly read up to get a good grasp of what it is all
about, what it looks like, how to adjust it, how to open things with
it, how to use it (apply it/encrypt) and when it should be used.

Please do not laugh.  My knowledge about this is embarrassingly nil. 

SC

On 6/20/05, Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:
 
  I am intrigued by the idea of digital signatures.
 
  Are there any open source (by that I mean free) digital signature services?
 
 Depends on what you mean by digital signature. We can divide digital
 signatures into two groups:
 
 1) One group relies on a central authority (www.thawte.com) to verify
 authenticity. That is, you know that a signature is mine because the
 central authority verifies that it is.
 
 These cost money. You have to pay the central authority for the service.
 
 2) The other group is de-centralized. You verify authenticity either
 directly (e.g. we meet in person and I give you my public key) or in a
 peer-to-peer sort of way (e.g. I give you Mary's public key which I
 verified when she and I we met in person).
 
 For this system, take a look at Gnu Privacy Guard:
 
 http://gnupg.org/
 
 If you are on Windows, you can skip right over to the Windows Privacy
 Tools, which is a GUI front-end for GnuPG for Windows:
 
 http://winpt.sourceforge.net/en/
 
 Cheers,
 Daniel.
 
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Re: [discuss] Digital Signatures...

2005-06-20 Thread Nicu Buculei

Sweet Coffee wrote:

Hello Everyone!

This is a very informative discussion for me.  I have never really had
a clear understanding of Private Keys and digital signatures.

Can anyone recommend a very, very, very basic article or reading about
it.  I would like to essentially begin at the bottom with this
subject and slowly read up to get a good grasp of what it is all
about, what it looks like, how to adjust it, how to open things with
it, how to use it (apply it/encrypt) and when it should be used.


you can start from here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signatures


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Re: [discuss] Digital Signatures...

2005-06-20 Thread Sweet Coffee
Hi Nicu!

Thanks!!

SC

On 6/20/05, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sweet Coffee wrote:
  Hello Everyone!
 
  This is a very informative discussion for me.  I have never really had
  a clear understanding of Private Keys and digital signatures.
 
  Can anyone recommend a very, very, very basic article or reading about
  it.  I would like to essentially begin at the bottom with this
  subject and slowly read up to get a good grasp of what it is all
  about, what it looks like, how to adjust it, how to open things with
  it, how to use it (apply it/encrypt) and when it should be used.
 
 you can start from here:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signatures
 
 
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 nicu
 my OpenOffice.org pages: http://ooo.nicubunu.ro
 
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Re: [discuss] Lingua Latina

2005-06-20 Thread Jonathon Blake
Graham wrote:

 Cool, perhaps you could explain how, for Stardocks benefit.

The OP didn't give their operating system.
Without that, odds are that the instructions I write won't apply.

xan

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Re: [discuss] OOo HTML export gives inefficient CSS

2005-06-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

Hi,

sorry for the late response but i have probably overlooked this mail.
It is very interesting but let me give you some info how the html is 
generated.
The developers guide used flat xml format, a special filter writing all 
xml streams into one stream. The html code is generated by using a xsl 
transformation (the same xslt is used internally for xhtml export) + 
some scripting. The xslt simply transform the styles and definitely 
doesn't know anything about automatic styles.
Your measured difference is really significant and i want to take a 
closer look on it. Can you send me your changed css file so that i can 
take a look on it.


Thanks Juergen

Shez wrote:

Others have commented on how OOo produces rather convoluted markup when
exporting SXW files as HTML, but since the pages usually look fine I'd
never really worried about it until yesterday, when I discovered that
the morass of CSS produced can actually cause a 25x performance hit on
page load times! Here's the details...

I just downloaded the OOo SDK which contains the developer guide in the
form of a number of large HTML files. The fact that the linked CSS
stylesheets contain a myriad of styles named P1, P2 .. P38, T1..T20 etc
in addition to more normally-named styles betrays that these HTML files
started life as SXW files that were then saved as HTML.

When I started using the documentation I found the pages loaded into my
browser very slowly. I thought at first it was just their size (many of
the files are 10,000 lines long), but then I began to wonder about the
huge CSS files they were using, which typically contain about 200 rules
for up to 1000 named styles! Some rules apply to over 100 named styles,
most of which seem to be redundant.

So I replaced the supplied CSS files with a minimalist one of my own
devising, containing just 10 rules for 15 key styles. The resultant HTML
pages looked just as good (in fact better, if I do say so myself!), but
the astounding thing was the difference in load times. Here are my
timings for fully loading two sample pages into IE5 on a 500MHz Win98
machine:

OOo CSS  My CSS  File name  size
20 sec   2 sec   DevelopersGuide.htm (251KB)
55 sec   2 sec   profUNO.htm (590KB)

I think you will agree the difference is astonishing. Yet the only thing
I changed was the external stylesheet.

These load times make all the difference between being able to flit back
and forth between sections at will, and having a document which is
barely usable.

The moral is that OOo's HTML export really does need cleaning up!
Part of it is OOo's tendency to make lots of internal auto-styles (e.g.
P1, P2, etc for paragraphs) and then save all of these rather than just
the named ones chosen by the user. (And I can't help wondering whether
all these masses of styles might also be a factor in OOo itself being so
sluggish, after all the XML rendering task it faces is much the same as
the HTML rendering task of a browser.)

To some extent though, better exporting would also require more
disciplined use of styles by the user to ensure that autostyles were not
required. For instance in the above Developer's Guide, I found that many
code examples which should logically have had the .CODE paragraph style
instead used a mishmash of doppelganger autostyles whose names changed
name from line to line within a single block of text. Whether this is
because of a failure of OOo to automatically retain the prevailing style
name from paragraph to paragraph, or because of haphazard authorship, I
don't know, but it leads to a situation where behind visually homogenous
sections of rendered text lies a confetti-like HTML source in which
nearly every line has a different paragraph style name. This in turn has
ramifications for Writer documents themselves and the difficulties some
people have had in using and altering styles, getting unexpected
effects, etc.

-Shez.


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Re: [discuss] Lingua Latina

2005-06-20 Thread Richard/g
El Lun 20 Jun 2005 07:55 AM, Laurent Godard escribió:
 Hi Richard,

  Actually, already exists.  I haven't used it but here it is:
  http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/spell_dic.html
  or directly:
  http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contri
 b/dictionaries/la.zip

 Yes, you're right

 the only more to say is that the language is bound to italian,
 so you have to select this language as the character
 property of your text Latin spellchecker is also available
 through DicOOo (File  autopilot  install dictionnaries)

No.  You can set it as any language that you are not using. 

It should also work, now, with ANY which obviates the need to 
assign it to another lang.  Just found out about this the other 
day.  I'll have to look it up.  Maybe someone has it at hand. 

Richard.

 read the readme.txt file to see how to change this association

 HTH

 laurent

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[discuss] Openoffice

2005-06-20 Thread Ray Would
Hi

One of the major restrictions that I find on spreadsheets is the small
number of columns that are used.

I am not likely to ever need to use 65K rows, but I do need to user more
than 256 columns.

For instance, if time based columns are used it is not possible to complete
a single year where each column equates to 1 day.

I have spoken to a number of people who would like to see the number of
columns substantially increased, perhaps this could be added to the wish
list for Open Office.

Regards

Ray Would