Re: [discuss] OpenOffice for Windows Mobile
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 14:31 -0800, Schuyler Wu wrote: Hi. Have you guys ever considered porting OpenOffice to the PDA or Pocket PC OS Windows Mobile? Thanks. Its been discussed. In principle its a good idea but OOo is big and the PDA would need a lot of RAM and it would take quite a lot of resources to do the port. It seems to me that we would be best to get the code as efficient as possible first. -- Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZMSL - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] left and/or center and/or right justification on the same line?
Friday, November 4, 2005 Ken Mantle wrote: I swear WordPerfect must have a patent on this feature, because I've never seen it documented or in any other word processor. Why is it not possible for Openoffice, Word, etc to allow justifying some text on the left margine, some in the center, and some on the right margine all on the same line? This is extremely easy to do in WordPerfect and in TeX because of their token-driven formatting. Object-oriented formatting à la Word and Writer needs some clumsy tricks to obtain the same result. The most common ways to do it are via one-row-three-columns tables, or tabs. For the headers and footers, you already have three placeholders. And yes, this is just One More Reason why token formatting is *much* better than OO formatting. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Re: Re: The .odt file format
Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Where does this story come from? Its not a story. I certainly was part of discussions about the need for a database for the education market in particular. We had fundraising meetings etc It is too a story. Just a true one, which makes a difference, as I was saying earlier :-) So far as I know, Base was entirely written by Sun employees -- at least they were the ones who folded an existeing java database (hsqldb) into openoffice. I don't think pressure from these mailing lists had anything much to do with it. You don't think? If you had been more involved with the discussions at the time you might think differently ;-) While its true Sun engineers did the work it is also true that other people had a hand in the early decisionmaking process. I put some money into research commissioned from one of the UK universities here, that was passed on aand discussed with the dba project engineers in the early stages. OK. That's almost the first instance I have heard of any of the community putting money into improving the product, no matter how indirectly. Well done you. (I know that the maintainer of HSQLDB appealed for donations, too, and may have had some from some of us, but that was another story) While it is arguable as to how much influence the community has in anything, I think that the evidence is that in this particular case it could well have tipped the balance between having and not having Base as it is in OOo20. Who actually implemented it and in what code is a different issue. It's an important, one, though. If we look at what happened, you produced research which persuaded Sun that it was worthwhile to put resources into this part of the program. I don't see what is particular to open source about that. Sun is not doing this from the goodness of its heart, whatever the admirable motives of individual Sun developers. It's funding and developing OpenOffice as part of a long-term strategy to weaken Microsoft and make Sun more profitable. You also have a financial interest in maximising the penetration of OOo into the education market. Don't get me wrong here. I applaud your interest, and Sun's; and I think that a thriving third-party market is absolutely necessary if the programme is to succeed. I want you to make money, and Andrew Pitonyak, Jean Hollis Weber, and the woman who's just been shouted at for plugging her book, too. But all these things tend to diminish the gap between commercial and free software and to relocate the important difference between -- though I am no longer sure what that is. I am trying to think about the question of where and under what circumstances open sourcing stuff is a more efficient way to produce software than the traditional method. The answer is clearly under a very restricted set of circumstances, but I still don't kow what they are. -- Andrew Brown The email in the header does not work. Contact details and possibly useful macros from http://www.darwinwars.com/lunatic/bugs/oo_macros.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] openoffice default language
Am Freitag, 4. November 2005 15:26 schrieb Susan Champigny: Where is the language controlled in openoffice. I have download the fluxbox window manager to be my default. All apps come up in English except for Openoffice. Were can I override German to English? Which Operating System? Windows XP, probably? Which Version of Openoffice.org? is it 2.0 or some 1.1.x? Please reply to users@openoffice.org, which is a better place for questions like this. Thanks! Guido - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: openoffice default language
Hi Susan, so you have some sort of linux distro and you use fluxbox. I presume OOo came with the distro and it is in German cos you installed the distro in that language. Right? One possibility would be to go back to the default window manager (probably KDE) and change the system language. It is very easy to do (seach for language in the control centre) and should take care of your prob. HTH Ingo Susan Champigny wrote: Where is the language controlled in openoffice. I have download the fluxbox window manager to be my default. All apps come up in English except for Openoffice. Were can I override German to English? I would be very thankful for any help you can provide. Thanks Susan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] openoffice default language
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:45:04 -, Guido Pinkernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, 4. November 2005 15:26 schrieb Susan Champigny: Where is the language controlled in openoffice. I have download the fluxbox window manager to be my default. All apps come up in English except for Openoffice. Were can I override German to English? Which Operating System? Windows XP, probably? I dont think fluxbox is very used in Windows XP Which Version of Openoffice.org? is it 2.0 or some 1.1.x? I also think that both are controlled the same way tools options Language Settings User Interface (choose language) Please reply to users@openoffice.org, which is a better place for questions like this. Thanks! Guido - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Re: Re: The .odt file format
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 11:33 +, Andrew Brown wrote: Sun is not doing this from the goodness of its heart, whatever the admirable motives of individual Sun developers. We all know that. Its no different from any other corporate in the Open Source industry. It's funding and developing OpenOffice as part of a long-term strategy to weaken Microsoft and make Sun more profitable. I'd say they would not be the only company to benefit from breaking MS's monopoly. Unfortunately there is rivalry between company's for a whole range of reasons so the politics are complex. You also have a financial interest in maximising the penetration of OOo into the education market. Yes, but believe it or not my main aim is to free up the technologies. I can do that more effectively if I have money. Money to me is a means to an end, not the end in itself but only I know whether that is the truth :-) Don't get me wrong here. I applaud your interest, and Sun's; and I think that a thriving third-party market is absolutely necessary if the programme is to succeed. I want you to make money, and Andrew Pitonyak, Jean Hollis Weber, and the woman who's just been shouted at for plugging her book, too. But all these things tend to diminish the gap between commercial and free software and to relocate the important difference between -- though I am no longer sure what that is. I don't see anythng wrong with commercial free software. Freedom in software is about the code being open, not whether or not you can make money directly or indirectly from it. It is inevitable that large companies will become increasingly involved with free software so there will be a commercial side to things, its just that the commercial models will not be predicated on license based monopolies. I am trying to think about the question of where and under what circumstances open sourcing stuff is a more efficient way to produce software than the traditional method. Large commoditised products wherer clearly the profits from selling licenses are way higher than justified by the development costs. Look up Christensen on disruptive innovation. Its been discussed here at length over the year. If company/government A pays more in license fees for some commodity that the cost of developing that commodity its going to be vulnerable to open source because it makes no economi sense to pay more for licensing that it costs to just share in the development. The mechanism for companies and governments to share in that development cost is just being shaken out. Sun are probably paying more for developing OOo than would be the case if it gave the code to a foundation. However they then lose control and big corporates aren't used to doing that. IN the longer term I guess if they don't do it someone sometime will fork the project - actually IBM and Novell already have. -- Ian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZMSL - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] re: openoffice download
On Sat November 5 2005 00:33, + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wish to download the openoffice everytime i fail to download do I have to give my username and password? one I have given my sreenname and password it says erro? plz can any one advice me how to download offenoffice You do not need any user name nor password. What is the error ? Which site are you trying to download form ? Please reply to discuss@openoffice.org only -- CPH : openoffice.org contributor Maybe your question has been answered already? http://user-faq.openoffice.org/#FAQ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] CALC DATEDIF
On Fri November 4 2005 11:17, + Cheric wrote: [ MODERATED ] My openoffice.org username=ericbaker This is not a bug, more a compatibility detail. The 1st xls I opened in Calc was pretty complicated (data referenced over multiple pages, locked headings, live pie chart etc) but opened perfectly except for a column where each formula used DATEDIF. I hadn’t realised this was an old 1-2-3 function. See HYPERLINK http://www.cpearson.com/excel/datedif.htmhttp://www.cpearson.com/excel/da t edif.htm for a good definition. Worth adding to Calc for extra Excel compatibility? Definitely. Can you please report this in issuezilla ? ( http://openoffice.org - My Pages - Register, then when you receive a confirmation email, Login and File an issue ) In this way the relevant developers will see your bug report / suggestion and you will also see the progress of this feature / bug report if it is accepted. Please reply to discuss@openoffice.org only -- CPH : openoffice.org contributor Maybe your question has been answered already? http://user-faq.openoffice.org/#FAQ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Migrating legacy documents to OpenDocument
On Fri November 4 2005 10:35, Lars D. Noodén wrote: [ MODERATED ] *** I have quite a collection of documents in legacy formats that I am starting to migrate to OpenDocument. Right now I'm noticing some difficulty importing them into OOo2 for OS X. The files could be MS Word for Windows 2.0c from 1993 or MS Word 95 for MS Windows 95 from 1997. It's hard to tell, I see no strings in the document giving a clue. The content is imported, including the metadata, but the formating is not. Not even page breaks and paragraph breaks. I've not had a problem with OOo before. What suggestions are there to work around this or fix it? If it is rally a Word2 problem then http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2535 may help. Note sure when it will be in a production release tho. But I assume sooner rather than later. Maybe when it is available in a developer build you could try it. Please reply to discuss@openoffice.org only -- CPH : openoffice.org contributor Maybe your question has been answered already? http://user-faq.openoffice.org/#FAQ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Good Ideas for Impress
A good idea for you to have would be a place in your site where people can download new slide templaes without having to create them, like the PowerPoint templates, but for OpenOffice. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] OODraw picture as OOWriter page background
Hi, I have used OODraw for an drawing with some blue bars as page border and the company logo at the page top. OODraw was really useful for this. Now I would like to have this drawing as page background for OOWriter text documents. I have tried the dialog for choosing page background imagem. Unfortunately it does not support opening ODG files. An alternative would be exporting the picture as PNG, JPG, metafile, etc. But exporting with OODraw degrades the picture quality of poligons with curves (is this a bug?). Now I have copied the hole drawing into the text header and looks nice. But there are some problems: It is not linked, I cant modify the original drawing and affect all documents. And it is cumbersome to adjust margins, borders and header size in order to position the drawing. What do you think about this issue? In my opinion, OOWriter should be able to open OODrawings as picture. Thanks, Daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] a more complete office suite
Let me first said I love what is happen in Open office.org. It about time some one took on Microsoft the right way. But there needs to be some more work done. I think for some one who works in an office you need complete office suite with out have the following. Word Processing, Spreadsheets,Drawing,Database,Sideshows,Address book,Email,Scheduling all these program and data need to be easy to go between them. Robbie Graham - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] OODraw picture as OOWriter page background
Cant you just do a copy-paste and then send it to background? On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:52:25 -, Daniel Felix Ferber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have used OODraw for an drawing with some blue bars as page border and the company logo at the page top. OODraw was really useful for this. Now I would like to have this drawing as page background for OOWriter text documents. I have tried the dialog for choosing page background imagem. Unfortunately it does not support opening ODG files. An alternative would be exporting the picture as PNG, JPG, metafile, etc. But exporting with OODraw degrades the picture quality of poligons with curves (is this a bug?). Now I have copied the hole drawing into the text header and looks nice. But there are some problems: It is not linked, I cant modify the original drawing and affect all documents. And it is cumbersome to adjust margins, borders and header size in order to position the drawing. What do you think about this issue? In my opinion, OOWriter should be able to open OODrawings as picture. Thanks, Daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alexandro Colorado CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] a more complete office suite
Robbie Darrell Graham wrote: Let me first said I love what is happen in Open office.org. It about time some one took on Microsoft the right way. But there needs to be some more work done. I think for some one who works in an office you need complete office suite with out have the following. Word Processing, Spreadsheets,Drawing,Database,Sideshows,Address book,Email,Scheduling all these program and data need to be easy to go between them. All these applications already exist. I am posting this message from Thunderbird - an open-source email client. If you know about Thunderbird but choose not to use it, how about helping out write an email client for OpenOffice? There are a lot of people like yourself who keep asking for it - get all of them together and it should be child's play :) -- Daniel Kasak IT Developer NUS Consulting Group Level 5, 77 Pacific Highway North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060 T: (+61) 2 9922-7676 / F: (+61) 2 9922 7989 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: http://www.nusconsulting.com.au - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] a more complete office suite
Daniel Kasak wrote: Robbie Darrell Graham wrote: Let me first said I love what is happen in Open office.org. It about time some one took on Microsoft the right way. But there needs to be some more work done. I think for some one who works in an office you need complete office suite with out have the following. Word Processing, Spreadsheets,Drawing,Database,Sideshows,Address book,Email,Scheduling all these program and data need to be easy to go between them. All these applications already exist. I am posting this message from Thunderbird - an open-source email client. If you know about Thunderbird but choose not to use it, how about helping out write an email client for OpenOffice? There are a lot of people like yourself who keep asking for it - get all of them together and it should be child's play :) Yes, I also use Thunderbird. But I would like to use something that was integrated into open office like Outlook is in Microsoft Office. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Is this a function of Open Office.
[CC;d to user] In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Fiddlesticks Gifts [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Please help me to understand if the is a limitatioan of open office or am I not understanding how to do the task. I opened a large TIFF file in Open Office (DRAW). It is 55,699 KB. I didn't make any changes to it. I just tried to resave it as a TIFF file. So I exported it as a TIFF file. However, now it is only 5173 KB . Does Open Office automatically compress or resize the file? Is there a way to turn that function off? It would help to know just what you are trying to achieve. Draw is primarily a vector graphics editor, not a raster image (which a TIFF is) editor. Draw can import images, of course. When you do an export of a Draw document to an image file (TIFF being one option) it is exporting an image representation of the whole *drawing*, not just the image you imported. If you want to specifically manipulate just the image itself, use an image editing program (of which there are many, but one is not included in OOo). -- Bob Long P.S. You have written to a mailing list where help is provided by volunteers. To ensure you see all replies, it is recommended that you subscribe to the mailing list. Please reply only to the mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, userguide, etc: http://documentation.openoffice.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] OODraw picture as OOWriter page background
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 16:52 -0200, Daniel Felix Ferber wrote: Hi, I have used OODraw for an drawing with some blue bars as page border and the company logo at the page top. OODraw was really useful for this. Now I would like to have this drawing as page background for OOWriter text documents. I have tried the dialog for choosing page background imagem. Unfortunately it does not support opening ODG files. An alternative would be exporting the picture as PNG, JPG, metafile, etc. But exporting with OODraw degrades the picture quality of poligons with curves (is this a bug?). Now I have copied the hole drawing into the text header and looks nice. But there are some problems: It is not linked, I cant modify the original drawing and affect all documents. And it is cumbersome to adjust margins, borders and header size in order to position the drawing. What do you think about this issue? In my opinion, OOWriter should be able to open OODrawings as picture. Thanks, Daniel Have you tried Insert - Object - OLE Object.. check Create From File and Link To File Search/Browse for the ODG file. Keep in mind that if the odt file is moved to another machine the odg file must also be moved to the other machine using the same path. HTH Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] a more complete office suite
Robbie Darrell Graham wrote: Yes, I also use Thunderbird. But I would like to use something that was integrated into open office like Outlook is in Microsoft Office. Why? -- Daniel Kasak IT Developer NUS Consulting Group Level 5, 77 Pacific Highway North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060 T: (+61) 2 9922-7676 / F: (+61) 2 9922 7989 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: http://www.nusconsulting.com.au - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] a more complete office suite
On 11/6/05, Daniel Kasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robbie Darrell Graham wrote: Yes, I also use Thunderbird. But I would like to use something that was integrated into open office like Outlook is in Microsoft Office. Why? Why? - WHY? Because it makes *SENSE* to, that's why. I understand that OpenOffice.org is holy, and perfect, and is not to be questioned. If something is missing, it *SHOULD* be missing. If something hogs memory, it *SHOULD* hog memory. But the simple fact is, people use Outlook everyday. It's got value. It makes sense that the same words that I use in Word are the same words I use in Outlook - therefore, the spell-checker should draw from the same list of words. It makes sense that since email is mostly words, and text documents are mostly words, the interface should be similiar, if not identical. It also makes sense that if I write something to someone, I should be able to email it, from my email address, *AS AN EMAIL* - not an attachment, even if I write it in my word processor, and not my email client, and I should be able to do this without opening my email client, and without copying and pasting anything. I makes sense that my contact information (Names, emails, addresses, phone numbers, birthdays, relationships, etc.) should be accessible from my email client and my word processor. Because regardless of if I am writing an email to someone, or a letter, or making a chart for them, their info doesn't change, so I should have that info uniform throughout the programs I use to interact with them. For these, and I am sure dozens of other reasons, it makes sense to have an email client as a part of your office suite, whether that suite is OpenOffice,org or MS Office, or Gnumeric, or whatever. That's Why. -Chad Smith
