Re: [discuss] Publisher equivalent?
Jonathon Coombes wrote: > Maybe I missed something here, but why is upside down text difficult in > Draw? Can't you just use the "Position and Size" option on the text I was copying documents in Rongo-Rongo. FWIW, I ended up using Calc. xan jonathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [discuss] tutorial standards, formats?
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:39:35 -0600, markandeya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Friends of OO, I would like to make some tutorials, How Tos for how to use OO. Are there any standards, guidelines, formats we should follow?? Thanks , Markandeya - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are some, but I am not sure where to point you out to read. For example, we in the community reffer to OpenOffice as OpenOffice.org not Open Office. The tone and technicality of the tutorial is really up to the author. I guess the best way to write tutorials is to read the one previously created. If you want a good repository of OpenOffice.org tutorials you can check up Bruce Byfield work. http://interactive.linuxjournal.com/blog/800902 -- Alexandro Colorado Grupo de Usuarios Linux Tabasco http://www.gultab.org OpenOffice.org Community Contact // Mexico http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] tutorial standards, formats?
markandeya wrote: Dear Friends of OO, I would like to make some tutorials, How Tos for how to use OO. Are there any standards, guidelines, formats we should follow?? The Documentation Project may be the best place to ask. http://documentation.openoffice.org/ mailing list: dev@documentation.openoffice.org subscribe by emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or if the material will be in a language other than English, click on the name of the language in the drop-down list on that page, to go to the relevant native-language part of the OOo website. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Suggestion for label feature
Dawn Palka wrote, I've just recently started using OpenOffice and while I find it to be very simple to use, I find that the label function is rather frustrating. Frustrating in that there is no template list to choose from as is the case in other programs such as Word Perfect, and therefore it's hard to tell just what I'm getting. I use labels for many things: recipes, CD labels, etc, and a template with the correct size labels would be most helpful. File > New > Labels brings up the Label dialog. On the Labels tab, a vast range of label templates are available through the drop-down Brand and Type lists. Pick one and then choose the Format tab to see a diagram and size information for an individual label. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] OpenDocument vs Microsoft's Office Open XML
As many of you know, Microsoft is attempting to "fast-track" its Office Open XML specification (OOXML) through the ISO process to become another standard for office documents, competing with OpenDocument. The first step in the ISO process is the “contradiction” phase, which has a deadline for objections of 5 February 2007. On 18 January, Groklaw published a detailed article titled "Searching for Openness in Microsoft’s OOXML and Finding Contradictions", which explains the ISO process and adds: “Because of the apparently unresolvable contradictions being discovered, the questions being asked are whether ISO should reject EOOXML from the fast-track process and instead use the regular process, and whether, if there can be no resolution of some of the contradictions discovered, ISO should accept the specification at all..." http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2007011720521698 The page links to some GrokDoc wiki pages which contain details about some of the contradictions. --Jean - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] tutorial standards, formats?
Dear Friends of OO, I would like to make some tutorials, How Tos for how to use OO. Are there any standards, guidelines, formats we should follow?? Thanks , Markandeya - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Re: Feature suggestion - Tabbed Documents
Quinten Miller wrote: > Howdy Guys > > I've been using OpenOffice for the last year and have been very impressed > with what I've seen. Finally an alternative that rivals MS Office in power, > functionality and stability. > > Through my daily use I have thought that it would be handy to have tabbed > documents, similar to Mozilla FireFox. Sometimes I may be editing up to > documents at once, they are all related but are contained in separate > files. > If these could be grouped in one OpenOffice instance with tabs it would be > much easier to navigate. > > Once again thanks heaps for a great product. > > Cheers > Quinten > Hi Quinten See http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=12686 This was requested several years ago. As you can see there is some work being done on it. Russell Please reply _only_ to discuss@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] Feature suggestion - Tabbed Documents
Howdy Guys I've been using OpenOffice for the last year and have been very impressed with what I've seen. Finally an alternative that rivals MS Office in power, functionality and stability. Through my daily use I have thought that it would be handy to have tabbed documents, similar to Mozilla FireFox. Sometimes I may be editing up to documents at once, they are all related but are contained in separate files. If these could be grouped in one OpenOffice instance with tabs it would be much easier to navigate. Once again thanks heaps for a great product. Cheers Quinten
Re: [discuss] Issuezilla and simple users
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 16:55 -0500, Chad Smith wrote: > > Maybe it's just me - but I think it would be better to get a bunch of junk > entries (duplicates, spam, incomplete issues, idiots who don't know how to > run spell check and calling it a bug, etc.) and get some good feedback with > it than not getting any feedback at all. > > This wouldn't be taking away from those users who already use the IZ - it > would be adding input we won't get otherwise. It does presume there is the manpower to go through all the noise that would be generated to find the stuff that is actually important. I think that is the dilemma. Ian -- www.theINGOTS.org www.schoolforge.org.uk www.opendocumentfellowship.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Issuezilla and simple users
Hi Chad, Chad Smith schrieb: [...] Maybe it's just me - but I think it would be better to get a bunch of junk entries (duplicates, spam, incomplete issues, idiots who don't know how to run spell check and calling it a bug, etc.) and get some good feedback with it than not getting any feedback at all. Did you have a look at the number of unconfirmed issues? Every issue has to be treated by a qa project member before it is set to "new" and handed over the the developers. And we don't have enough resources to fix the issues submitted quite a long time ago. So every duplicate, spam, incomplete issue hinders someone to to more relevant work. What we really need is an interface that - search for duplicates before submitting the issue - helps "newbie" users to fill the appropriate fields with the needed informations - tells them that we probably need additional information and - give them some more information how OOo bug fixing (and enhancement engineering) does work If you are able to provide such an interface, I'm quite sure the QA team will be very pleased. As Frank already mentioned: please post your ideas on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Issuezilla and simple users
Hi Frank, On 1/22/07, Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't remember exactly what became of this idea, but one reason for it not being realized is that we can't do this on the collab.net infrastructur - we would need to set up some other server, which is a major hurdle. I am sure that we could find some hosting for it. I mean, it's not like we are talking about a ton of traffic here. There wouldn't need to be many images - if any at all - and they could still be hosted on the Collabnet servers. You'd just need... what, php, mysql, html, cgi? What is the issue (no pun intended) that is keeping us from being able to do this on Collabnet? And could we not come up with a guest account just to enter in issues? That's a bad idea. Too often, additional feedback is required, and for this, the original submitter needs to respond. If he'd submit the issues under some foreign account, a lot of issues would effectively be dead ends. Maybe it's just me - but I think it would be better to get a bunch of junk entries (duplicates, spam, incomplete issues, idiots who don't know how to run spell check and calling it a bug, etc.) and get some good feedback with it than not getting any feedback at all. This wouldn't be taking away from those users who already use the IZ - it would be adding input we won't get otherwise. -- - Chad Smith http://www.chadwsmith.com/
Re: [discuss] using OOo without a mouse
Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote: Hi Jonathon, Does that mean that there is hope that OOo will be usable by people that can't use a mouse? (Does "not using a mouse" imply "using a keyboard only", or are there other means of input then? For the following, I assume the former ...) In fact it already should, simply 'cause this is an accessibility requirement itself. In fact, I can't remember I've ever seen something that can't be reached by keys. I do use a mouse as well, but like my keyboard most. So try many things. Though I would *not* bet my life on it, I'd say it actually is - at least in principle. There might be things which are cumbersome (trying to press an arbitrary button in an arbitrary toolbar is /possible/ without a mouse, but not remotely fun), but there shouldn't be anything unreachable. F10, n * Ctrl-Tab, n * -> :-) If you're missing keyboard access to something, I strongly encourage you to submit an issue in IssueZilla, and put the "accessibility" keyword onto it. Or ask on the list first. Possibly others (not only me!) do know the trick to access xxx by keyboard. Cheers, Cor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Publisher equivalent?
KAMI wrote: Stephanie Boulee írta: I find Fontwork to be really good; compared to WordArt even better in most ways. I would like being able to rotate by dragging a handle like in office, and to havea few more gradient options (for many things) and easier to use color options. (see below) Also borders (including border art) and shading/background options is lacking, as is the color options. I like to see several different color and shade options such as the hexagon and custom pattern in office as well as the shade intensity selector (or whatever you'd call that) or even something resembling an html color options chart would be more helpful than the basic options there are now. What I would like for shading would be to use the color options with draw such as gradient, the area options, etc. for backgrounds on the page as well as the frames (I use frames because it has similar functionality to the text boxes in publisher). More options for gradient would be great too, such as to be able to better control the size of the gradient area (I may want it to fade 1/4 inch from the edge, or most of the way to the center). What I would like for borders would be to be able to have simple dashed, dotted etc. lines as well as border art. Border art as in being able to have a picture repeat itself for the border, or be able to have a zigzag or other such continuous pattern around the border. It would also be convenient to be able to affix a graphic directly to a frame, so you could get the orientation desired in the frame and maintain it when the frame is moved. Also to be able to rotate a frame with a handle like you would with the Fontwork suggestion. That's my 2 cents on the functionality I would like to see in Ooo that I currently depend upon publisher for. Stephanie You can add new colors hatching and gradients to Draw (Impress) components. When you edit fills you can add more themes at the last tabs of that panel. You can can send the edited files from: /home//.openoffice.org2/user/config (Linux) or documents and settings\\openoffice.org2\user\config (Windows) to us. Also you can send documents with interesting fontwork effects - I can add it into fontwork gallery - then we might have a chance to get it into the future releases of OpenOffice.org. KAMI Okay, so if I create some unique fontwork and want to share it, where would be a good place to send that file? I thought we weren't supposed to send attachments in the mailing lists. Thanks. -Stephanie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Issuezilla and simple users
Hi Chad, > Couldn't we come up with some sort of multipage wizard or something to guide > it through the fields. This has been discussed to death before, IIRC ... I don't remember exactly what became of this idea, but one reason for it not being realized is that we can't do this on the collab.net infrastructur - we would need to set up some other server, which is a major hurdle. If you think this can be solved - e.g. you know somebody knowing somebody being able to provide this resource -, then I'd suggest to carry this proposal to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I think this is the proper place). There'd be some UX (sic!) design ahead for this wizard, but this should be solvable (I myself certainly can't wait to put my oar in :). > And could we not come up with a guest account just to enter in issues? That's a bad idea. Too often, additional feedback is required, and for this, the original submitter needs to respond. If he'd submit the issues under some foreign account, a lot of issues would effectively be dead ends. Ciao Frank -- - Frank Schönheit, Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Sun Microsystems http://www.sun.com/staroffice - - OpenOffice.org Base http://dba.openoffice.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] using OOo without a mouse (was: [discuss] Proposing a new User Experience project on OOo)
Hi Jonathon, > Does that mean that there is hope that OOo will be usable by people that > can't use a mouse? (Does "not using a mouse" imply "using a keyboard only", or are there other means of input then? For the following, I assume the former ...) In fact it already should, simply 'cause this is an accessibility requirement itself. Though I would *not* bet my life on it, I'd say it actually is - at least in principle. There might be things which are cumbersome (trying to press an arbitrary button in an arbitrary toolbar is /possible/ without a mouse, but not remotely fun), but there shouldn't be anything unreachable. If you're missing keyboard access to something, I strongly encourage you to submit an issue in IssueZilla, and put the "accessibility" keyword onto it. Ciao Frank -- - Frank Schönheit, Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - Sun Microsystems http://www.sun.com/staroffice - - OpenOffice.org Base http://dba.openoffice.org - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Publisher equivalent?
Jonathon Coombes wrote: On 21/01/2007, at 5:29 PM, Stephanie Boulee wrote: Jonathon Coombes wrote: On 21/01/2007, at 1:49 PM, Jonathon wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: You can use draw to do whatever u need. Creating 10 point upside down text using Draw is not a straight forward process. Hi Jonathon, Maybe I missed something here, but why is upside down text difficult in Draw? Can't you just use the "Position and Size" option on the text drawn and set the angle to be 180 degrees? Or is it you want to flip it vertically? For some reason the flip is greyed out in mine, but depending on your needs you could convert to contour and then flip it? Regards Jonathon I find that Fontwork is the Ooo equivalent to WordArt and does it better in most ways. The upside down text would be easier with a handle that you could drag to flip it around like in Office. Hi Stephanie, Well there is some functionality like that already - if you double click, you get the "red-ball" outlines and you can drag them to rotate the text. Regards Jonathon Fantastic! I never thought to double click! I right click a lot and find many valuable things when I right click everything. Thanks for the tip! -Stephanie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] Re: Publisher equivalent?
I wish draw was able to flow text from one frame to another too. I think that's one of the only things it's lacking as a desktop publishing program. Since that functionality is already in Writer, it shouldn't be too hard for it to be implemented in Draw as well. Is there an issue for that somewhere? Yep, goes back to 1.1 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=25732 Thanks a lot Graham. I just gave the issue two votes. Adrian -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
