Re: [discuss] data base in OOo2?
Away from the control panel I don't see any substancial difference with the 1.1.4 version. Can someone shed some explanation of some 'real' changes (on the UI) on OOoBase from 1.x to 2.x? -- Alexandro Colorado Co-Leader of OpenOffice.org Spanish http://es.openoffice.org/ Mensaje citado por Don Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Pre criticism disclaimer - I LIKE Open Office a lot and appreciate all the > work done on it] > > for once I think following the Microsoft model is a bad idea > > The Lotus Approach database - though not so well updated as MS - is better > and more user friendly in its interface - and also uses multiple database > formats > > Why is more difficult to answer - I simply find it more intuitive (though it > needs learning) It has also been possible to obtain it much more cheaply too > which has helped. > > > Regards > Adrian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] data base in OOo2?
[Pre criticism disclaimer - I LIKE Open Office a lot and appreciate all the work done on it] for once I think following the Microsoft model is a bad idea The Lotus Approach database - though not so well updated as MS - is better and more user friendly in its interface - and also uses multiple database formats Why is more difficult to answer - I simply find it more intuitive (though it needs learning) It has also been possible to obtain it much more cheaply too which has helped. Regards Adrian
RE: [discuss] data base in OOo2?
I believe that the next version (5.x) of mysql will have both views and stored procedures. http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/mysql-storedprocedures.html http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/mysql-views.html MySQL/PostgreSQL are natural partners for OO.o for medium sized databases but we did need something for smaller scale "my mailing list" sized databases which don't require many features. -Original Message- From: Alexandro Colorado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 6:46 AM To: discuss@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [discuss] data base in OOo2? The again to be honest we still havent have a 'stable' implementation of the native database format into the OpenOffice.org GUI. Also MySQL products lack things that Access has like 'Views', while Oracle and PostgreSQL have stored process that are not supported by the GUI. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] data base in OOo2?
The again to be honest we still havent have a 'stable' implementation of the native database format into the OpenOffice.org GUI. Also MySQL products lack things that Access has like 'Views', while Oracle and PostgreSQL have stored process that are not supported by the GUI. Access is also a very unique database since they don't manage Unix dates so their time format is just shared with MS SQL Server, every other database has the standard -MM-DD which also cause some problems I was testing the UI and I also found a very basic incompatibility with the MySQL database which is the 'Limit' option. this is a very basic command which I found surprisingly missing when running it on the UI of the db. I do want to ask more people to beta test the OOoBase specially if they have the resources to have an Oracle/PostgreSQL/SQL Lite/Firebird database. -- Alexandro Colorado Co-Leader of OpenOffice.org Spanish http://es.openoffice.org/ Mensaje citado por Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > bealach wrote: > > > However if the PC World review of Oo2 beta is right the database is very > > much like M$ Access which PC World claims is not very good and users > > don't like it very much. > > This is very vague. Can you elaborate on exactly what is wrong with it and > what should be different? > > Suppose for example that you are making a software product. Someone comes > in and says "your product is not very good, can you make it better?". Now, > how would you respond to this person?1 > > I thought OOoBase was much superior to MS Access. For example, OOo Base > has the ability to connect to 12 different databases out of the box (e.g. > MySQL, Oracle) and many more thorugh other interfaces. By comparison MS > Access is just one database. We do have a database engine called HSQLDB > which provides a fuctionality vs ease of use tradeoff that is comparable > to that of Access. But if you wish for a different tradeoff (e.g. MySQL) > you can do that. > > Cheers, > -- > Daniel Carrera | I don't want it perfect, > Join OOoAuthors today! | I want it Tuesday. > http://oooauthors.org | > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] data base in OOo2?
--- Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > bealach wrote: > > > However if the PC World review of Oo2 beta is right the database is very > > much like M$ Access which PC World claims is not very good and users > > don't like it very much. > > This is very vague. Can you elaborate on exactly what is wrong with it and > what should be different? > > Suppose for example that you are making a software product. Someone comes > in and says "your product is not very good, can you make it better?". Now, > how would you respond to this person?1 > > I thought OOoBase was much superior to MS Access. For example, OOo Base > has the ability to connect to 12 different databases out of the box (e.g. > MySQL, Oracle) and many more thorugh other interfaces. By comparison MS > Access is just one database. We do have a database engine called HSQLDB > which provides a fuctionality vs ease of use tradeoff that is comparable > to that of Access. But if you wish for a different tradeoff (e.g. MySQL) > you can do that. > > Cheers, > -- He daniel. You haven't left yet? What happened? BTW: You got me on the april fools thing, but I waited to see if anything would come of it! Cheers! Rigel > Daniel Carrera | I don't want it perfect, > Join OOoAuthors today! | I want it Tuesday. > http://oooauthors.org | > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [discuss] data base in OOo2?
bealach wrote: > However if the PC World review of Oo2 beta is right the database is very > much like M$ Access which PC World claims is not very good and users > don't like it very much. This is very vague. Can you elaborate on exactly what is wrong with it and what should be different? Suppose for example that you are making a software product. Someone comes in and says "your product is not very good, can you make it better?". Now, how would you respond to this person?1 I thought OOoBase was much superior to MS Access. For example, OOo Base has the ability to connect to 12 different databases out of the box (e.g. MySQL, Oracle) and many more thorugh other interfaces. By comparison MS Access is just one database. We do have a database engine called HSQLDB which provides a fuctionality vs ease of use tradeoff that is comparable to that of Access. But if you wish for a different tradeoff (e.g. MySQL) you can do that. Cheers, -- Daniel Carrera | I don't want it perfect, Join OOoAuthors today! | I want it Tuesday. http://oooauthors.org | - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[discuss] data base in OOo2?
Hello, I've been reading the news on PC World about the addition of a database in Ooo2. However if the PC World review of Oo2 beta is right the database is very much like M$ Access which PC World claims is not very good and users don't like it very much. Well, OOo writer is much better than M$Word for instance so wouldn't it possible to make a great data module, even if it can't be ready for Ooo2 final release? -- can't users wait patiently until one is ready, rather than get something that isn't as good as the rest of Ooo (Ooo drawing is amazing too). Please don't see this message as a troll or anything aggressive. I'm a fan of Ooo. :-) Cheers bealach - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
