Re: [discuss] Re: LibreOffice
Hi Marius, 2010/10/21 Marius Popa : > When LibreOffice 3.3 final will be released? Will you make a portable > version of it or www.portableapps.com will deal with it? This is a question, that no one can answer you on the openoffice.org lists. If you're interested, you should ask this question in the libreoffice mailinglists. You could try either disc...@libreoffice.org or us...@libreoffice.org Be warned, that discuss has high mail traffic at the moment. Sigrid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: LibreOffice
When LibreOffice 3.3 final will be released? Will you make a portable version of it or www.portableapps.com will deal with it? On 5 October 2010 09:26, Graham P Davis wrote: > On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 16:37, Marius Popa scribbled: > > > What is LibreOffice? Is it the successor of OpenOffice.org or what? > > > > http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/ > > -- > Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: "newsman", not "newsboy". > "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out." - > Carl > Sagan > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org > > -- Marius Popa
[discuss] Re: LibreOffice
On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 16:37, Marius Popa scribbled: > What is LibreOffice? Is it the successor of OpenOffice.org or what? > http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/ -- Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks. E-mail: "newsman", not "newsboy". "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: LibreOffice
On Thu Sep 30 2010 18:57:58 GMT-0700 (PDT) NoOp wrote: On 09/30/2010 09:57 AM, RA Brown wrote: On Thu Sep 30 2010 09:23:36 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marius Popa wrote: What LibreOffice will be able to do in addition to OpenOffice? When OpenOffice.org 3.3 will appear? I see the beta lasts too long. LibreOffice has some of the more stable code from Go-oo back ported. The Icons or not the "official" colorless ones seen in 3.2.1 or 3.3.0 beta. Andy Which is *very* nice on linux as you don't have to mess with antiquated JMF for sound & video as LO uses the gstreamer plugins. In one the forums I tried to point out to a poster that Go-oo was better, but I was basically told I did not know what I was talking about. Not having tried with either I could not prove the point. I had seen you referring to the problems but did not have the references handy. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: LibreOffice
On 09/30/2010 09:57 AM, RA Brown wrote: > On Thu Sep 30 2010 09:23:36 GMT-0700 (PDT) Marius Popa wrote: >> What LibreOffice will be able to do in addition to OpenOffice? When >> OpenOffice.org 3.3 will appear? I see the beta lasts too long. >> > > LibreOffice has some of the more stable code from Go-oo back ported. > The Icons or not the "official" colorless ones seen in 3.2.1 or 3.3.0 beta. > > Andy Which is *very* nice on linux as you don't have to mess with antiquated JMF for sound & video as LO uses the gstreamer plugins. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: LibreOffice - What's in a Name?
"Thorsten Behrens" wrote in message news:20100929120139.gb7...@thinkpad.thebehrens.net... Phil Hibbs wrote: Harold Fuchs: > So, am I being > paranoid in thinking that the choice of the name "LibreOffice" suggests > that > at some stage it will no longer be Gratis? Yup. Totally not - it being LGPLv3 licensed will lead to its source code being freely available eternally - and transitively, since the marginal cost of supplying binaries to users approaches zero (with some purported 100 million users of OOo), that also holds for the final product. (besides that, the notion of "gratis" is misleading at best - of course there's inherent cost in every software, FLOSS being no exception - and of course someone needs to develop it, test it, translate it, etc - either by donating time, or money) Cheers, -- Thorsten First, I think you mean "totally yes", in other words I think you think I'm being paranoid. Please correct me if I've got this wrong. Second, the fact that the source code will be freely available forever is of no interest to 99% of the users of the software who wouldn't know what to do with a single line of c++ or Java let alone several million. Those users need a supported product, either supported by a professional organisation or by a volunteer group like the existing OOo forums & mail-lists. The foundation could decide to sell LibreOffice in the same way Sun sold StarOffice. The name LibreOffice suggests this might be the plan. However, subsequent messages in other threads tell us that the foundation is hoping that Oracle will join it and donate the name OpenOffice.org, at which point the name LibreOffice will be dropped. So perhaps I was being paranoid after all. I hope so. -- Harold Fuchs London, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [discuss] Re: LibreOffice - What's in a Name?
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, John Thompson wrote: On 2010-09-29, Robert Funnell wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Phil Hibbs wrote: Harold Fuchs: So, am I being paranoid in thinking that the choice of the name "LibreOffice" suggests that at some stage it will no longer be Gratis? Yup. This does seem a bit paranoid. 'Libre' nicely emphasizes the 'free speech' aspect. Isn't the 'free beer' aspect assured by the GPL licence? As long as you don't mind compiling it yourself. On linux this isn't a huge issue, but on Windows I seem to recall that a proprietary compiler is required. As long as the source code is 'libre', there is presumably enough of an existing community that someone will compile and distribute the binaries 'gratis', so I would expect the free beer to continue to be available for some time, regardless of what any one group or organization might do. Of course, the strength of on-going development is another question. - Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: LibreOffice - What's in a Name?
"Harold Fuchs" wrote in message news:i7v3tv$gc...@dough.gmane.org... The word "free" in English is ambiguous. It can mean "at no cost", free as in beer - "Gratis". It can also mean "at liberty", free as in speech, "Libre". In normal conversation context usually distinguishes between the possibilities. However, here we are deep in the world of F(L)OSS where the distinction is widely used, recognised and made explicit. So, am I being paranoid in thinking that the choice of the name "LibreOffice" suggests that at some stage it will no longer be Gratis? -- Harold Fuchs London, England The following message was sent to the us...@openoffice.org list today. The sender was Marc Paré (m...@marcpare.com) = begin message === At this point, the Document Foundation is hoping that Oracle will be kind and donate the "OpenOffice" trademarked name to them. If this is done, the Document Foundation will then abandon the "LibreOffice" name and go back to the "OpenOffice" name. At this point, OpenOffice has a great brand name that is recognized the world over. Let's hope that Oracle will be generous enough to join the Document Foundation and participate. This would create fewer disturbances in the OpenOffice development. But, if they do not donate the name to the Document Foundation, then the "LibreOffice" name will be kept and it will then be officially known as a fork of OpenOffice. At this point, the Document Foundation doesn't consider the LibreOffice as a fork but just as a temporary name change of the community software till Oracle decides what it will do with the OpenOffice name which they own. Cheers Marc = end message === -- Harold Fuchs London, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: LibreOffice - What's in a Name?
On 2010-09-29, Robert Funnell wrote: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Phil Hibbs wrote: > >> Harold Fuchs: >>> So, am I being >>> paranoid in thinking that the choice of the name "LibreOffice" suggests that >>> at some stage it will no longer be Gratis? >> >> Yup. > > This does seem a bit paranoid. 'Libre' nicely emphasizes the 'free > speech' aspect. Isn't the 'free beer' aspect assured by the GPL > licence? As long as you don't mind compiling it yourself. On linux this isn't a huge issue, but on Windows I seem to recall that a proprietary compiler is required. -- -John (j...@os2.dhs.org) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: LibreOffice - Why Beta?
On 9/29/2010 5:35 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: The subject line say it. Why is the new LibreOffice only a beta? What has been done to OpenOffice.org that turns it from "production" (or "stable" or whatever) to beta? Would someone please either list the, presumably new features or point me at a web site that does so. The release is beta because it is OOo 3.3 beta, not 3.2.1 which is the current stable Clair - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
[discuss] Re: LibreOffice - Why Beta?
"Harold Fuchs" wrote in message news:... The subject line say it. Why is the new LibreOffice only a beta? What has been done to OpenOffice.org that turns it from "production" (or "stable" or whatever) to beta? Would someone please either list the, presumably new features or point me at a web site that does so. -- Harold Fuchs London, England Sorry, forgot to ask: when can we expect to see the first non-beta version? -- Harold Fuchs London, England - To unsubscribe, e-mail: discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: discuss-h...@openoffice.org
