[discuss] Re: RE:[discuss] Re: a more complete office suite

2005-11-20 Thread Mel Haun Sr
The only problem I see that makes this a bad move are the Thousands of 
legitimate clubs and e-mail groups. This would hurt tham as much or more 
than the spammaers.  With little or no real gain. We would lose a wondeful 
aspect of the Net by the thousands ( like this present list ), to get rid of 
a nuisance.


Bad move all around

Mel
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From: "Daniel Carrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: a more complete office suite



Randomthots wrote:

Would you be willing to spend $0.01 per email? My idea behind the 
fee-bate was two-fold: make spam a lot more expensive to send out and 
reimburse recipients and ISPs for the


A simpler way to achieve the same result without actually spending money 
(in any way you'd recognize as such) is Hashcash:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashcash

The idea is beautifully simple. Require the sender to solve a simple math 
problem, that takes about 1 second of CPU time. For a regular emailer this 
is a very minor inconvenience, but for a spammer it is magnitudes more 
expensive.


Cheers,
Daniel.
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Re: [discuss] Re: RE:[discuss] Re: a more complete office suite

2005-11-20 Thread Daniel Carrera

Mel Haun Sr wrote:
The only problem I see that makes this a bad move are the Thousands of 
legitimate clubs and e-mail groups. This would hurt tham as much or more 
than the spammaers.  With little or no real gain. We would lose a 
wondeful aspect of the Net by the thousands ( like this present list ), 
to get rid of a nuisance.


Bad move all around


I disagree. Legitimate mailing lists could find other ways to not get 
filtered out. For example, users could just set their filters to not 
require hashes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using Hashcash doesn't mean 
that you'd stop using other anti-spam tools like whitelists, blacklists, 
SpamAssassin, etc.


Hashcash would be a great move. It'd be a powerful new tool for stopping 
spam. And when properly combined with the other tools we have today, it 
would have minimal drawbacks.


Cheers,
Daniel.
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