Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK Community
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 20:34:50 a l wrote: If anything we owe it to -any- of our members to set up the CWG and determine a course of action surrounding their continued involvement. I have a draft of the proposal for a CWG but I have been focusing on school lately. I will send it out tonight. Omar had also indicated that he has suggestions for the CWG. I did not mean to imply malicious editing. There was a time when we all got along , even had fun together, and I'm just naive enough to think there's a chance we can still return to that. Andrew, I've never stopped believing in that. Regards, Andrew L On Apr 30, 2014 8:21 PM, Robert Rybicki rob...@robertrybicki.com wrote: Torrie is one of Robert W favorite people in the world. Jen or myself will be blocking this by proxy. Torrie is beyond talented in so many ways and is a huge benefit to the community. Granted she is currently using her talents to insult and flame others on the mailing list, her unexcellent behavior is a response to insults and threatening behavior. You people need to work it out because forcing each other out of the community or out of offices is not cutting it. That goes for Torrie as well. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.com wrote: Chiming in that I will block this proposal. That is all. Chris Egeland Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2014, at 19:50, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: I'm sorry but we do not have time to set up a CWG with all of the procedures and such they are supposed to follow while this type of treatment is going on. These are all publicly available on the email list and the quotes are in no way altered. I really am failing to see your logic in defending Torrie's actions today on the discuss list when she has been nothing but vile towards others. -Steve -- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:45:41 -0400 From: leit...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK Community I'm not sure we have enough facts to back up the claims made in some of these quotes. Until such time that we get the community working group involved and have all the facts rather than partial quotes and hurt feelings I cannot support this proposal. Regards, Andrew L On Apr 30, 2014 7:26 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: Proposal: Removal Torrie from the SYNHAK Community I am proposing the following: The removal of Torrie Fischer from the SYNHAK community for the following reasons. * Negatively talking about SYNHAK affecting the public opinion of the community on the mailing lists, examples being: * Never started SYNHAK, the Akron Hackerspace. - Wed, April 30 2014 17:09 * Then I hear that I'm being removed as Treasurer due to Devin and Andy's persecution complex, so I started looking for housing in the San Francisco because SYNHAK is dead to me. - Wed, April 30 2014 15:59 * It died months ago when I was convinced to rescind my proposal to remove Justin from the board. - Wed, April 30 2014 15:59 * Congrats! I'm so proud of everyone. We are now (in)famous within the hacker communities. - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 * RIP SYNHAK. Killed by bystander apathy. - Wed, April 30 2014 14:29 * Publicly attacking Steve Radonich IV and Andy B. on the mailing list by unjustly calling them names, examples being: * Remember, folks: you voted this mental midget of a person onto the board :) - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed towards Andy * Remember, folks: I'm someone who should be put up with! You all decided to go along with his plan to introduce more rules and bureaucracy to stop someone from forcing the community to address a situation where they feel completely unsafe! - Wed, April 30 2014 12:49 - Directed towards Steve * A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual fascination as if my genitals define who I am. - Wed, April 30 2014 17:09 - Directed towards Steve * Steve loves rules and has an authoritarian stance on everything. Thats the only reasonable answer that can explain this majestic piece of legalese: - Wed, April 30 2014 16:12 - Directed towards Steve * Using her position of Treasurer to target those she has a disagreement with: * Devin - It will be reimbursed just not now, but me and Andy have been told no on reimbursements and just only us. Given reciepts to others to get the money. Someone took something the wrong way, and they are attacking back using the position as treasurer. But this needs to stop right now, because it is discriminatory. - Tue, April 29 2014 - Meeting Minutes It is with these issues, and others that I may not even
Re: [SH-Discuss] [SYNHAK-Announce] Board meeting 5/5/2014 7pm
Everyone needs to get off the mailing list and come to the meetings and see for yourself what SynHak is, instead of reading long winded email stories that do not show what is really going on. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Becca Salchak blsalc...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sorry I was trying to stay out of this conversation because I feel like my points are always misconstrued over the mailing lists but I have to say something now. SYNHAK does not live and die by Torrie Fischer. We are not trying to get rid of her through removing her from her office. I can't speak for all of us but I know that most respect Torrie for her major contributions to SYNHAK. This board meeting was called because some of the membership are very VERY upset in how she is treating her office she hasn't been removed yet and we can not guarantee that she will be removed. But there are quite a few unhappy members. SYNHAK is having some internal problems right now. I was saying that we are going through some growing pains and like a child growing into an adult there are some painful moments where the body must stretch and change to accommodate as such. But the pains we are suffering now are not growing pains they are pains from a cancerous growth. (I never thought I would say something like this because I like Torrie I think for the most part Torrie has great ideas , is a very creative person, and a fun person to hang out with.) There obviously is a problem. She is perceiving hatred and judgment about personal issues when the majority of the time there isn't any judgment. The only judgment now is people judging her on her over reactions. The only fires at SYNHAK are a result of Torrie hold a magnifying glass over problems until the combust. If Torrie does get voted out of office there are people who are willing to step up and fill the void . if Torrie does decide to leave and burn SYNHAK down as she goes We will survive we will rebuild. On Apr 30, 2014 6:16 PM, Ryan Rix r...@n.rix.si wrote: RIP SYNHAK, 2011-2014 Devin Wolfe de...@midnight30products.com writes: -- Forwarded message -- From: Devin Wolfe de...@midnight30products.com Date: Apr 30, 2014 12:31 AM Subject: Board meeting 5/5/2014 7pm To: SYN/HAK discussion list discuss@synhak.org, bo...@synhak.org Cc: As per the request of the membership I call a board meeting to be held on May 5th at 7pm. The meeting will take place at 48 S. Summit st. Akron OH. The agenda of the board meeting will be: The removal of the current officer of treasurer from their position. Devin Wolfe Champion ___ announce mailing list annou...@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/announce ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Hiatus Hiatus
My complaint about you Torie was built up over time from all of the things that I was trying to work out, deal with or just let slide. But as you can see by the complaint it has added up to a point that it was to much for me as a member to deal with. At the time, I was not a board member so I sent the complaint to what would be my superiors, the champions. It was never meant for you or anyone else to see. You really need to stop with the name calling. I agree with Steve it is you, Torrie. You are either delusional, or just fail to accept the obvious that you have been acting in a manner that is not constructive to the community and are the root of a lot of problems here at SYNHAK. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.comwrote: Wait, what did Justin do? All I've seen from him is a willingness to help and a voice of reason. Is this about the storage racks again? Or was there something else? On Apr 30, 2014 6:52 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual fascination as if my genitals define who I am. I find the above comment repulsive. I know of no one that is defining you by your genitals except for you constantly bringing it up. -Steve From: tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: discuss@synhak.org Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:09:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Hiatus Hiatus On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 16:40:36 Omar Rassi wrote: That email was meant to be sent to members@ as was requested. By those who were present. I asked the room if there was issues with it. No one said anything, it was even suggested to me by another member (not Chris or Torrie) that I add the preface I wrote at the beginning of it. This confused me because we are always talking about how we don't want the dirty laundry out in the open but when steps are taken to handle particular issues without escalation to the public, the champions get intentionally ignored and its viewed as as a backdoor gang up on someone else that suddenly needs transparency. It isn't mine or the champions or Torrie's fault if people don't listen to each other. I've been trying rather unsuccessfully to help people see issues differently and to encourage discussion between individuals. The biggest issue i'm seeing is that people just aren't listening each other, just simply waiting for their turn to speak. These issues won't go away no matter who comes, goes, or gets removed so long as we aren't willing to hear each other and process what is said. This is evidenced by people criticizing lengthy emails, criticizing people who take more time to complete their thoughts in a sentence, ignoring solutions that don't involve punishing people or pointing fingers and outright dismissal of ideas because they don't like the individual presenting it or the premise without presenting a solution of their own going forward. I honestly wanted to make another push along with Andrew L, its still a draft email I'm polishing. But I challenge each of you to look at yourselves in the mirror today and ask yourselves, what makes me happy? And what could I have done differently for a more excellent outcome? Don't think about what other people can do differently, remember that you can only control what you do as an individual, so start there. What makes me happy? A safe space that I feel comfortable visiting. A place where I don't feel like I'm going to get my head bitten off for asking where to put the vacuum former. A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual fascination as if my genitals define who I am. A group of people who can judge people based on the value of their contributions and not the quantity of them or their personal perception of the balance of power. A mailing list where I can write complete thoughts and not be told that I'm trying to cause drama or that my mails are too long to consider reading, or maybe actually get the issue at hand addressed. What could I have done differently for a more excellent outcome? Encouraged campaigning among the officer and board candidates to figure out what they /really/ want. Ignored any semblance of transparency, since I got the same result in the end. Never sponsored Justin. Never started SYNHAK, the Akron Hackerspace. On Apr 30, 2014 3:51 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: I feel that I have to reply to this as I was specifically named. One I have to say that if you were truly on hiatus then you would have delegated your duties to someone else as you would have no dealings with SYNHAK during the hiatus. I find it quite childish that you would act this way when no one has officially proposed that you be removed from SYNHAK but just from your office as treasurer. Seeing as it is quite obvious that you have not been performing your duties and
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK Community
Steve, if I started things as you suggest, whats my motivation? On Thursday, May 01, 2014 04:37:33 Steve Radonich IV wrote: I understand that there is going to be a lot of resistance to such a proposal, and in fact believe that the most likely outcome is having the proposal rejected by the membership. However, I do hope that we can have a productive conversation addressing an issue that we are having that is typically left to be discussed about little groups. I do feel that Torrie has been acting in a manner that is very detrimental to the community and has caused SYNHAK to start to tear itself apart. I personally don't like my name being publicly tarnished by someone who's accusations about me are unfounded. I have admitted that my wording was not acceptable and , if I haven't already I certainly meant to, apologise to Torrie for saying those unexcellent things. What I said though does not deserve me being continually called a transphobe on the public discuss list, especially after I have addressed this before I believe multiple times. How anyone can defend her comments on the discuss list the last 24 hours really baffles my mind. Not only have I tried to discuss some of these issues on the mailing list, I have not once responded to anything Torrie has said in a nasty manner. While in comparison Torrie goes into other threads in the public mail list and trashes me there as well. On top of that after no one else on the discuss list comes to my defence when I have been the civil one in this whole affair, instead I get champions and others going to the defence of Torrie. Then when I make a proposal to have her removed from the community, because not many on the list were completely fine with her comments and sat idle, multiple people express their intentions to block it, some without any reasons as to why they're going to block it. People may not want to admit it, but there are those in the group that will not criticise Torrie no matter what she says or does, I guess because either they are very good friends with her, or because she came up with the idea of SYNHAK. I honestly had a lot of respect for her in the past, as well as enjoyed hanging out with her at and outside of SYNHAK. Up until the last 24 hours I had hope that me and her could still remain friends, however she burned that bridge as she intended to with her initial email under the Hiatus Hiatus thread. Quote from her initial email: I'm also aware of a board vote to remove me from my office of Treasurer, so I figure that I might as well join the fun and burn some bridges while I go down in beautiful crimson flames. Can someone please explain to me why I am the unreasonable one because I feel that someone who acts like that has no place in a community that is supposed to be open to everyone? Is it because I feel that she has become the center of such a big issue involving many members of SYNHAK? Ask yourself the following: Has her response to many of the emails today been in line with our Code of Conduct Be excellent to each other? I really want to have a discussion on this issue, and I thought the discuss list was a place where we all are supposed to discuss things, so as not to exclude anyone who can not make it to a Tuesday meeting. Instead when I put time into a reply that really wants to get deep into the issue and truly solve it most of my points or questions go unaddressed in responses. To sum this all up as simply as I can: The biggest problem I see is that Torrie preaches how we should all be open minded to other view points and ideas, at least giving them some serious thought, and I can totally agree with that. However, open mindedness is not a one-way street but she seems to think that it works that way. As soon as I expressed a view point that was polar opposite of one of hers she started being aggressive towards me and I find that unfortunate. This all could have been avoided if she practiced what she preached. Hope to get some serious replies instead of the normal name calling and complete dismissal. -Steve From: tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: discuss@synhak.org Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 02:13:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAKCommunity On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 20:34:50 a l wrote: If anything we owe it to -any- of our members to set up the CWG and determine a course of action surrounding their continued involvement. I have a draft of the proposal for a CWG but I have been focusing on school lately. I will send it out tonight. Omar had also indicated that he has suggestions for the CWG. I did not mean to imply malicious editing. There was a time when we all got along , even had fun together, and I'm just naive enough to think there's a chance we can still return to that. Andrew, I've never stopped believing in that. Regards, Andrew L On Apr 30, 2014
[SH-Discuss] An excellent example of poison and their effects.
Having observed Synhak over the past 6 months, I too have witnessed the infectious nature and spread of the poison which now spills out all Synhak's pores. It is toxic, and palpable as soon as you cross the threshold. It matters not what the cause was or why it still thrives. The real issue from this point forward is, can the space/body survive? I believe there needs to be an impartial knife applied liberally to cut out the non-viable tissue. No consensus, no vote, no appeal. Re-application for future membership, possible. Will this hurt the cash flow from dues? Yes! But what does that matter if the space is dead? This needs to be done quickly and the surgeon given unquestioned latitude. Impossible? Not really. Difficult? Certainly! Will it happen? I truly doubt it, but without it, death is just a heartbeat away. Metaphor Martin, Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] An excellent example of poison and their effects.
Any thoughts on how to implement this? Regards, Andrew L On May 1, 2014 10:05 AM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: Having observed Synhak over the past 6 months, I too have witnessed the infectious nature and spread of the poison which now spills out all Synhak's pores. It is toxic, and palpable as soon as you cross the threshold. It matters not what the cause was or why it still thrives. The real issue from this point forward is, can the space/body survive? I believe there needs to be an impartial knife applied liberally to cut out the non-viable tissue. No consensus, no vote, no appeal. Re-application for future membership, possible. Will this hurt the cash flow from dues? Yes! But what does that matter if the space is dead? This needs to be done quickly and the surgeon given unquestioned latitude. Impossible? Not really. Difficult? Certainly! Will it happen? I truly doubt it, but without it, death is just a heartbeat away. Metaphor Martin, Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK Community
I don't know how Steve or any of us can guess your motivation at times, not sure that is even a fair question, or relevant. Perhaps you would enlighten us on your motivation, but some of your behavior doesn't seem justifiable to me in any context. In this respect I will not block this proposal, however I would like to see how the rest of the members choose to deal with this, and feel that protecting/enabling abusive behavior is not really a solution that any of us should be comfortable with. I can't say I know how all of this started, as it seems that some actions are actually reactions to prior events, but we have to start making it better. I want a community that I can be proud of. regards, On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: Steve, if I started things as you suggest, whats my motivation? On Thursday, May 01, 2014 04:37:33 Steve Radonich IV wrote: I understand that there is going to be a lot of resistance to such a proposal, and in fact believe that the most likely outcome is having the proposal rejected by the membership. However, I do hope that we can have a productive conversation addressing an issue that we are having that is typically left to be discussed about little groups. I do feel that Torrie has been acting in a manner that is very detrimental to the community and has caused SYNHAK to start to tear itself apart. I personally don't like my name being publicly tarnished by someone who's accusations about me are unfounded. I have admitted that my wording was not acceptable and , if I haven't already I certainly meant to, apologise to Torrie for saying those unexcellent things. What I said though does not deserve me being continually called a transphobe on the public discuss list, especially after I have addressed this before I believe multiple times. How anyone can defend her comments on the discuss list the last 24 hours really baffles my mind. Not only have I tried to discuss some of these issues on the mailing list, I have not once responded to anything Torrie has said in a nasty manner. While in comparison Torrie goes into other threads in the public mail list and trashes me there as well. On top of that after no one else on the discuss list comes to my defence when I have been the civil one in this whole affair, instead I get champions and others going to the defence of Torrie. Then when I make a proposal to have her removed from the community, because not many on the list were completely fine with her comments and sat idle, multiple people express their intentions to block it, some without any reasons as to why they're going to block it. People may not want to admit it, but there are those in the group that will not criticise Torrie no matter what she says or does, I guess because either they are very good friends with her, or because she came up with the idea of SYNHAK. I honestly had a lot of respect for her in the past, as well as enjoyed hanging out with her at and outside of SYNHAK. Up until the last 24 hours I had hope that me and her could still remain friends, however she burned that bridge as she intended to with her initial email under the Hiatus Hiatus thread. Quote from her initial email: I'm also aware of a board vote to remove me from my office of Treasurer, so I figure that I might as well join the fun and burn some bridges while I go down in beautiful crimson flames. Can someone please explain to me why I am the unreasonable one because I feel that someone who acts like that has no place in a community that is supposed to be open to everyone? Is it because I feel that she has become the center of such a big issue involving many members of SYNHAK? Ask yourself the following: Has her response to many of the emails today been in line with our Code of Conduct Be excellent to each other? I really want to have a discussion on this issue, and I thought the discuss list was a place where we all are supposed to discuss things, so as not to exclude anyone who can not make it to a Tuesday meeting. Instead when I put time into a reply that really wants to get deep into the issue and truly solve it most of my points or questions go unaddressed in responses. To sum this all up as simply as I can: The biggest problem I see is that Torrie preaches how we should all be open minded to other view points and ideas, at least giving them some serious thought, and I can totally agree with that. However, open mindedness is not a one-way street but she seems to think that it works that way. As soon as I expressed a view point that was polar opposite of one of hers she started being aggressive towards me and I find that unfortunate. This all could have been avoided if she practiced what she preached. Hope to get some serious replies instead of the normal name calling and complete dismissal. -Steve
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK Community
Of course you ignore all points I have made in the email. I have no idea what your motivations are, but you obviously started this. I love how even you can't defend what you've said. -Steve Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 11:31:51 -0400 From: mgriesac...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK Community I don't know how Steve or any of us can guess your motivation at times, not sure that is even a fair question, or relevant. Perhaps you would enlighten us on your motivation, but some of your behavior doesn't seem justifiable to me in any context. In this respect I will not block this proposal, however I would like to see how the rest of the members choose to deal with this, and feel that protecting/enabling abusive behavior is not really a solution that any of us should be comfortable with. I can't say I know how all of this started, as it seems that some actions are actually reactions to prior events, but we have to start making it better. I want a community that I can be proud of. regards, On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: Steve, if I started things as you suggest, whats my motivation? On Thursday, May 01, 2014 04:37:33 Steve Radonich IV wrote: I understand that there is going to be a lot of resistance to such a proposal, and in fact believe that the most likely outcome is having the proposal rejected by the membership. However, I do hope that we can have a productive conversation addressing an issue that we are having that is typically left to be discussed about little groups. I do feel that Torrie has been acting in a manner that is very detrimental to the community and has caused SYNHAK to start to tear itself apart. I personally don't like my name being publicly tarnished by someone who's accusations about me are unfounded. I have admitted that my wording was not acceptable and , if I haven't already I certainly meant to, apologise to Torrie for saying those unexcellent things. What I said though does not deserve me being continually called a transphobe on the public discuss list, especially after I have addressed this before I believe multiple times. How anyone can defend her comments on the discuss list the last 24 hours really baffles my mind. Not only have I tried to discuss some of these issues on the mailing list, I have not once responded to anything Torrie has said in a nasty manner. While in comparison Torrie goes into other threads in the public mail list and trashes me there as well. On top of that after no one else on the discuss list comes to my defence when I have been the civil one in this whole affair, instead I get champions and others going to the defence of Torrie. Then when I make a proposal to have her removed from the community, because not many on the list were completely fine with her comments and sat idle, multiple people express their intentions to block it, some without any reasons as to why they're going to block it. People may not want to admit it, but there are those in the group that will not criticise Torrie no matter what she says or does, I guess because either they are very good friends with her, or because she came up with the idea of SYNHAK. I honestly had a lot of respect for her in the past, as well as enjoyed hanging out with her at and outside of SYNHAK. Up until the last 24 hours I had hope that me and her could still remain friends, however she burned that bridge as she intended to with her initial email under the Hiatus Hiatus thread. Quote from her initial email: I'm also aware of a board vote to remove me from my office of Treasurer, so I figure that I might as well join the fun and burn some bridges while I go down in beautiful crimson flames. Can someone please explain to me why I am the unreasonable one because I feel that someone who acts like that has no place in a community that is supposed to be open to everyone? Is it because I feel that she has become the center of such a big issue involving many members of SYNHAK? Ask yourself the following: Has her response to many of the emails today been in line with our Code of Conduct Be excellent to each other? I really want to have a discussion on this issue, and I thought the discuss list was a place where we all are supposed to discuss things, so as not to exclude anyone who can not make it to a Tuesday meeting. Instead when I put time into a reply that really wants to get deep into the issue and truly solve it most of my points or questions go unaddressed in responses. To sum this all up as simply as I can: The biggest problem I see is that Torrie preaches how we should all be open minded to other view points and ideas, at least giving them some serious thought, and I can totally agree with that. However, open mindedness is not a one-way street but she seems
Re: [SH-Discuss] ART SUPPLIES Q
Barbara, Yes, SH is interested in your stuff! Can you bring it to the building or should we arrange pickup? I will be at SH tomorrow evening from 6pm to 10pm. Philip SH Member Barbara Donnola bdonn...@neo.rr.com wrote: Hi. I have a personal stash of creative-type stuff I collected "because you could make something really cool out of THAT...etc." I'm finally realizing I may not get around to doing even 1/2 of my ideas. I would like to donate this stuff to anyone else who might be inspired, see the potential repurpose it. With the end of the school year so close, I'm hesitant to contact school art departments at this time. I read something about SYNHAK doing rocketry of some sort. AND I happen to have an amazing assortment of really nice strong tubes rings (among other things) that I'd like to bring to your space. Interested? I can arrange to photograph if you want to see. I look forward to your reply a great reason to stop by for an initial visit. Who knows? Maybe I'll stay make something. Thanks, b. Barbara Donnola Graphic Design Tel: 330-676-0674 Fax: 330-676-0717 bdonn...@neo.rr.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Hi.I have a personal stash of creative-type stuff I collected "because you could make something really cool out of THAT...etc." I'm finally realizing I may not get around to doing even 1/2 of my ideas.I would like to donate this stuff to anyone else who might be inspired, see the potential repurpose it.With the end of the school year so close, I'm hesitant to contact school art departments at this time.I read something about SYNHAK doing rocketry of some sort.AND I happen to have an amazing assortment of really nice strong tubes rings (among other things) that I'd like to bring to your space.Interested?I can arrange to photograph if you want to see.I look forward to your reply a great reason to stop by for an initial visit.Who knows? Maybe I'll stay make something.Thanks,b. Barbara DonnolaGraphic DesignTel: 330-676-0674Fax: 330-676-0717bdonn...@neo.rr.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] ART SUPPLIES Q
Hi. I have a personal stash of creative-type stuff I collected because you could make something really cool out of THAT...etc. I'm finally realizing I may not get around to doing even 1/2 of my ideas. I would like to donate this stuff to anyone else who might be inspired, see the potential repurpose it. With the end of the school year so close, I'm hesitant to contact school art departments at this time. I read something about SYNHAK doing rocketry of some sort. AND I happen to have an amazing assortment of really nice strong tubes rings (among other things) that I'd like to bring to your space. Interested? I can arrange to photograph if you want to see. I look forward to your reply a great reason to stop by for an initial visit. Who knows? Maybe I'll stay make something. Thanks, b. Barbara Donnola Graphic Design Tel: 330-676-0674 Fax: 330-676-0717 bdonn...@neo.rr.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Proposal: Removal of Torrie from the SYNHAK Community
On Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:57:16 Steve Radonich IV wrote: Of course you ignore all points I have made in the email. I have no idea what your motivations are, but you obviously started this. I love how even you can't defend what you've said. If you have no idea what my motivations are, then why are we fighting? You're just arguing with me for the sake of arguing unless you are trying to change my mind about something. I like to think that I know what your motivations are. I know that you want the best for SYNHAK. The two of us obviously have a very different opinion about how to accomplish it. However, mine was solidified three years ago when all this started. One simply cannot come into a community of any size and decide to completely change how it all works. This is why there is resistance from the folks who have been around SYNHAK and myself for a very long time. They understand the goal of the space and the purposes of why I do what I do. This is my analysis of what has happened: We wanted a hacker space in Akron. A safe space where we can come in, and hack. Nobody wanted to vote on things every week. We never used Robert's Rules of Order. Professionalism was scoffed at and rules were bent because that is what hackers do. We void warranties, do strange things with electricity, cook amazing food, and build fire pits from washing machine drums. I think the biggest hack we've accomplished so far as a group is convincing the Federal Government of the United States that this idea doesn't need to pay taxes. I know that this is something you can resonate with. The second biggest would be the fact that the Knight Foundation gave this idea a check for $15,000, no questions asked. SYNHAK was envisioned as a hub of creative expressions within art and science based on do-ocracy, consensus, and excellence a la Noisebridge's design. A big inspiration was this often repeated quote from Noisebridge's Vision page: For we're excellent to each other here We rarely ever block We value tools over pre-emptive rules And spurn the key and the lock. — Danny O'Brien, 2010-11-09 general meeting notes I am a very principled person who sticks to her guns. Those racks that were brought in did not have the consent of all the members. Even fewer people consented once the sublease was published. The argument was that they were do- ocractically done. Thats not how it works though. All three values should be held at the same time. They're not exclusive, rather three facets of the same idea. Consensus, one of our core values, was thrown aside and many of us found that unacceptable. We all saw how that went down. It boggles my mind that some would still try to defend it because Someone was trying to help the space. I could also help the space by calling in a city inspector to make sure our permits...oh, well then. Helping is a very relative term depending on if you're short-sighted or looking at the big picture. In concert, tensions were growing with the move-in and buildout period. Everyone wanted to get back to hacking as fast as possible, but some of us had different opinions about how fast we should move and who should take on what responsibility. As a result, everyone was afraid of stepping on toes. We were all walking on eggshells. I briefly asked someone a question about the overhead lighting, and was told that They did it all wrong and one of these days I'm going to just rip it out and rewire it. That is not an exact quote, but you get the idea. Those sorts of people refused to participate in discussions about what they were doing and how everyone else could help out. Since most everyone was busy with their own things, I thought I could play project manager for a short period and try to get everyone in sync. The whiteboard in the front entrance was updated daily with who is working on what, and I'd ask everyone their guess on what they would do next. Didn't help though. People stopped giving input and caring about what others thing. Excellence was just an afterthought. We're all guilty of that from time to time, but never before all of us at once. Everything was done in the name of do-ocracy because thats all that was left. Those tensions turned into bitterness towards others in the space. Some of it amplified issues started back at 21 W. North nearly a year ago that remained unresolved, despite the best efforts of everyone to mediate the dispute. It culminated in a meeting a few weeks ago where I was told that the source of the issue was marijuana. Only later did I find out that there was a fourteen point list of items covering everything about me, which personally I think could be summed up in this image: http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1324596542030_7713053.png Some of it was directed at my gender identity, which is a core facet of every human. Additionally, I've pointed out in your email what was offensive. Your rebuttal
Re: [SH-Discuss] Hiatus Hiatus
Regardless of the intended viewer intentional improper use of pronouns and various other inflammatory comments about a persons life style are not ok. Part of being excellent to each other is being respectful while disagreeing with a persons actions. Regards, Andrew L On May 1, 2014 3:51 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: My complaint about you Torie was built up over time from all of the things that I was trying to work out, deal with or just let slide. But as you can see by the complaint it has added up to a point that it was to much for me as a member to deal with. At the time, I was not a board member so I sent the complaint to what would be my superiors, the champions. It was never meant for you or anyone else to see. You really need to stop with the name calling. I agree with Steve it is you, Torrie. You are either delusional, or just fail to accept the obvious that you have been acting in a manner that is not constructive to the community and are the root of a lot of problems here at SYNHAK. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, what did Justin do? All I've seen from him is a willingness to help and a voice of reason. Is this about the storage racks again? Or was there something else? On Apr 30, 2014 6:52 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual fascination as if my genitals define who I am. I find the above comment repulsive. I know of no one that is defining you by your genitals except for you constantly bringing it up. -Steve From: tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: discuss@synhak.org Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:09:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Hiatus Hiatus On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 16:40:36 Omar Rassi wrote: That email was meant to be sent to members@ as was requested. By those who were present. I asked the room if there was issues with it. No one said anything, it was even suggested to me by another member (not Chris or Torrie) that I add the preface I wrote at the beginning of it. This confused me because we are always talking about how we don't want the dirty laundry out in the open but when steps are taken to handle particular issues without escalation to the public, the champions get intentionally ignored and its viewed as as a backdoor gang up on someone else that suddenly needs transparency. It isn't mine or the champions or Torrie's fault if people don't listen to each other. I've been trying rather unsuccessfully to help people see issues differently and to encourage discussion between individuals. The biggest issue i'm seeing is that people just aren't listening each other, just simply waiting for their turn to speak. These issues won't go away no matter who comes, goes, or gets removed so long as we aren't willing to hear each other and process what is said. This is evidenced by people criticizing lengthy emails, criticizing people who take more time to complete their thoughts in a sentence, ignoring solutions that don't involve punishing people or pointing fingers and outright dismissal of ideas because they don't like the individual presenting it or the premise without presenting a solution of their own going forward. I honestly wanted to make another push along with Andrew L, its still a draft email I'm polishing. But I challenge each of you to look at yourselves in the mirror today and ask yourselves, what makes me happy? And what could I have done differently for a more excellent outcome? Don't think about what other people can do differently, remember that you can only control what you do as an individual, so start there. What makes me happy? A safe space that I feel comfortable visiting. A place where I don't feel like I'm going to get my head bitten off for asking where to put the vacuum former. A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual fascination as if my genitals define who I am. A group of people who can judge people based on the value of their contributions and not the quantity of them or their personal perception of the balance of power. A mailing list where I can write complete thoughts and not be told that I'm trying to cause drama or that my mails are too long to consider reading, or maybe actually get the issue at hand addressed. What could I have done differently for a more excellent outcome? Encouraged campaigning among the officer and board candidates to figure out what they /really/ want. Ignored any semblance of transparency, since I got the same result in the end. Never sponsored Justin. Never started SYNHAK, the Akron Hackerspace. On Apr 30, 2014 3:51 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: I feel that I have to reply to this as I was specifically named. One I have to say that if you were truly on hiatus then you
Re: [SH-Discuss] Hiatus Hiatus
I agree with your comment that: Part of being excellent to each other is being respectful while disagreeing with a persons actions. Except that people are defending Torrie when her actions are completely opposite of this. -Steve Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 13:36:19 -0400 From: leit...@gmail.com To: discuss@synhak.org Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Hiatus Hiatus Regardless of the intended viewer intentional improper use of pronouns and various other inflammatory comments about a persons life style are not ok. Part of being excellent to each other is being respectful while disagreeing with a persons actions. Regards, Andrew L On May 1, 2014 3:51 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: My complaint about you Torie was built up over time from all of the things that I was trying to work out, deal with or just let slide. But as you can see by the complaint it has added up to a point that it was to much for me as a member to deal with. At the time, I was not a board member so I sent the complaint to what would be my superiors, the champions. It was never meant for you or anyone else to see. You really need to stop with the name calling. I agree with Steve it is you, Torrie. You are either delusional, or just fail to accept the obvious that you have been acting in a manner that is not constructive to the community and are the root of a lot of problems here at SYNHAK. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Michael Griesacker mgriesac...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, what did Justin do? All I've seen from him is a willingness to help and a voice of reason. Is this about the storage racks again? Or was there something else? On Apr 30, 2014 6:52 PM, Steve Radonich IV nesfr...@outlook.com wrote: A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual fascination as if my genitals define who I am. I find the above comment repulsive. I know of no one that is defining you by your genitals except for you constantly bringing it up. -Steve From: tdfisc...@hackerbots.net To: discuss@synhak.org Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:09:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [SH-Discuss] Hiatus Hiatus On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 16:40:36 Omar Rassi wrote: That email was meant to be sent to members@ as was requested. By those who were present. I asked the room if there was issues with it. No one said anything, it was even suggested to me by another member (not Chris or Torrie) that I add the preface I wrote at the beginning of it. This confused me because we are always talking about how we don't want the dirty laundry out in the open but when steps are taken to handle particular issues without escalation to the public, the champions get intentionally ignored and its viewed as as a backdoor gang up on someone else that suddenly needs transparency. It isn't mine or the champions or Torrie's fault if people don't listen to each other. I've been trying rather unsuccessfully to help people see issues differently and to encourage discussion between individuals. The biggest issue i'm seeing is that people just aren't listening each other, just simply waiting for their turn to speak. These issues won't go away no matter who comes, goes, or gets removed so long as we aren't willing to hear each other and process what is said. This is evidenced by people criticizing lengthy emails, criticizing people who take more time to complete their thoughts in a sentence, ignoring solutions that don't involve punishing people or pointing fingers and outright dismissal of ideas because they don't like the individual presenting it or the premise without presenting a solution of their own going forward. I honestly wanted to make another push along with Andrew L, its still a draft email I'm polishing. But I challenge each of you to look at yourselves in the mirror today and ask yourselves, what makes me happy? And what could I have done differently for a more excellent outcome? Don't think about what other people can do differently, remember that you can only control what you do as an individual, so start there. What makes me happy? A safe space that I feel comfortable visiting. A place where I don't feel like I'm going to get my head bitten off for asking where to put the vacuum former. A community that doesn't treat me like some strange sexual fascination as if my genitals define who I am. A group of people who can judge people based on the value of their contributions and not the quantity of them or their personal perception of the balance of power. A mailing list where I can write complete thoughts and not be told that I'm trying to cause drama or that my mails are too long to consider reading, or maybe actually get the issue at hand addressed. What could I have done differently for a more excellent outcome? Encouraged campaigning among the officer and board candidates to figure out what they /really/ want. Ignored any semblance of
Re: [SH-Discuss] ART SUPPLIES Q
TF I will resend the message to her personal address now. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 12:24:25 Ppatnode wrote: Barbara, Yes, SH is interested in your stuff! Can you bring it to the building or should we arrange pickup? I will be at SH tomorrow evening from 6pm to 10pm. Sorry, I should've added that they're not subscribed and that I just redirected this here but it took a while to show up in my inbox. You'll want to CC any replies to her. Philip SH Member Barbara Donnola bdonn...@neo.rr.com wrote: Hi. I have a personal stash of creative-type stuff I collected because you could make something really cool out of THAT...etc. I'm finally realizing I may not get around to doing even 1/2 of my ideas. I would like to donate this stuff to anyone else who might be inspired, see the potential repurpose it. With the end of the school year so close, I'm hesitant to contact school art departments at this time. I read something about SYNHAK doing rocketry of some sort. AND I happen to have an amazing assortment of really nice strong tubes rings (among other things) that I'd like to bring to your space. Interested? I can arrange to photograph if you want to see. I look forward to your reply a great reason to stop by for an initial visit. Who knows? Maybe I'll stay make something. Thanks, b. Barbara Donnola Graphic Design Tel: 330-676-0674 Fax: 330-676-0717 bdonn...@neo.rr.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Hi. I have a personal stash of creative-type stuff I collected because you could make something really cool out of THAT...etc. I'm finally realizing I may not get around to doing even 1/2 of my ideas. I would like to donate this stuff to anyone else who might be inspired, see the potential repurpose it. With the end of the school year so close, I'm hesitant to contact school art departments at this time. I read something about SYNHAK doing rocketry of some sort. AND I happen to have an amazing assortment of really nice strong tubes rings (among other things) that I'd like to bring to your space. Interested? I can arrange to photograph if you want to see. I look forward to your reply a great reason to stop by for an initial visit. Who knows? Maybe I'll stay make something. Thanks, b. Barbara Donnola Graphic Design Tel: 330-676-0674 Fax: 330-676-0717 bdonn...@neo.rr.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
what is phrobo asking for em? in USD what can you do with em? On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
Way cool! What do they do? Will they repel marauding zombies? On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:33:29 Philip P. Patnode wrote: Way cool! What do they do? Will they repel marauding zombies? RFID entry system. This is the board that goes on the outside of whatever secured area is controlled by the entry system. The other half attaches to a RaspberryPi running Spiff and Graviton through JP1. This entire module is meant to go into a small case I've designed for production on a Prusa 3d printer. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] friday night at synhak
FYI The SH building will be open on Friday night from 6pm to 10pm. If enough people show up and express an interest in seeing a movie, I will show Her at 7.30pm. It is rated at 8.2/10 on IMDb. That ranks it in the Top 500 movies. From IMDb = A lonely writer develops an unlikely relationship with his newly purchased operating system that's designed to meet his every need. Director: Spike Jonze Writer: Spike Jonze Stars: Joaquin Phoenix, Amy Adams, Scarlett Johansson Hope to see some smiling faces at SH tomorrow night! Philip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
Congratulations! On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
Very nice! On Thursday, May 1, 2014, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations! On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ppatn...@gmail.com'); wrote: TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tdfisc...@hackerbots.net'); wrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tdfisc...@hackerbots.net'); wrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.orgjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Discuss@synhak.org'); https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Discuss@synhak.org'); https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Discuss@synhak.org'); https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
On Thursday, May 01, 2014 22:43:09 Philip P. Patnode wrote: TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? Well, it was going to be for SYNHAK's front door. I'm not sure about that anymore, but keep an eye out for a kickstarter this month from Phong Robotics about a hackerspace entry system. More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Circuit Boards
Just wanted to make sure everyone in the back knew you were still mad huh? :) Anyway, looking forward to the kickstarter. Would love to see this give spiff more recognition too. There is a decent inventory scanner downstairs, I don't remember if it's a psion or winCE based one but eitherway it can be made to dump to mysql. Spiff would make actual inventory, loan, skill, and donation tracking a ridiculous amount easier after a large amount of setup. What's involved in feeding an amp or so to a solenoid from this? (spiff based B.F.Tool authentication) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 22:43:09 Philip P. Patnode wrote: TF Is this the device that I will be assembling for ten bucks an hour later this summer? You do know that I work very, very slowly. JK! When can I see the finished product or at least the final prototype? Well, it was going to be for SYNHAK's front door. I'm not sure about that anymore, but keep an eye out for a kickstarter this month from Phong Robotics about a hackerspace entry system. More later. PPP On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, May 01, 2014 19:31:48 gs volt wrote: what is phrobo asking for em? in USD The boards? $5 each. The entire RFID entry system? $100 each. what can you do with em? Part of an RFID entry system. Described elsewhere in the thread. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: After a long few months of work, these showed up today with the made at synhak branding for Phong Robotics: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmlHXXHCMAA28N2.jpg Collector's items, surely. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[SH-Discuss] c-bog
I am working on a proposal for a C-BOG (community build-out group, (hyphen added for awesomeness when saying out loud)) In neo-synhak fashion I'm trying to talk with groups of people individually before making a proposal that someone would go as far as to block. As with the last one I researched (laptop-gate era), I'm willing to drop if it will start a civil war. I feel most of our drama comes from too many cooks in the kitchen; the sooner many of us can feel like they can do their own projects again without feeling selfish if they are at the space and not working on infrastructure, the better. It has breed entitlement, countless disagreements on how things must be done, and the worst: fights on who the space owes more. (hint: the answer should be nobody, ever.) The idea of the proposal is to create a separate and temporary standard forman/project-lead/helper organizational structure of volunteers working towards a build-out goal consensed by the membership, funded by a cash-on-card budget (in the area of $2-4k). The treasurer would be instrumental in this process. In my head, this is little more than walls, details, and purchasing of tools so many members who have walked away (during this struggle) have de-donated. Other than the piles of stuff being where the racks were, the place looks mostly the same since March. Thoughts? p.s. If we had a guideline that: don't say anything you wouldn't say to someone's face. I'm guessing the bulk of the last few days email would not have been sent thanks to knowledge of what responses words can have when your not looking at your target through a computer screen. We will all see each other again, we live in the same community and share the same love of something that exists at a single physical location. Why people would use such strong words over email instead of directly to their adversary's face I must not grasp. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
