Re: [SH-Discuss] cast iron repair

2013-12-31 Thread Philip P. Patnode
Martin,

Thank you for the reply and valuable information.

I will contact "Kent quick weld service" and inquire about their services
and prices.

For your address book =

*Quick Service Welding & Machine Co*
*117 E Summit St*
*Kent OH 44240*
*330.673.3818*

Locktite products are worth checking out too.  Not sure if the new seams
along the break line would withstand the torque created by the 3/4hp motor
that drives the planetary gears in the mixer.

You can watch the project develop at SH sometime after the 15th of January.
 I will be moving the pieces to SH where it will stay until I can get it
welded, rewired, repainted, and tested.

For the final test of the repaired mixer, I might make a big batch of dough
- enough for a 60in pizza to feed everybody at a Tuesday meeting.  Of
course, everybody will have to bring their own toppings.  I am sure Devin
and Craig and Alex can rig up some method to cook it.  Flamethrower?
 Lasers?

Philip








On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Martin Pinkston
wrote:

> Kent quick weld service could probably handle the welding but it would
> cost you some bucks.
>
> The other option might be taking a close look into a Loctite product.
> They have adhesives which when applied correctly, any failure will occur
> beyond the glued joint at the parent metal.
> And if you are able to install a few  strategically located steel dowel
> pins, you may be able to minimize stress at the joint making a glued joint
> more practical.
>
> Take Care & Have fun Always.
> Martin Pinkston
>
> On Dec 30, 2013, at 13:10, "Philip P. Patnode"  wrote:
>
> *Does anybody know how to repair broken cast iron?*
>
> Can cast iron be welded?
>
> Can cast iron be repaired with an adhesive?
>
> Details =
>
> I recently acquired a broken Thunderbird 20-qt commercial dough
> maker/mixer.  It is a table top appliance that is used in a commercial
> bakery to make dough or mix large batches of bread dough or cake/cookie/pie
> dough.
>
> 
>
> The previous owner, a Certified Level 3 Moron, dropped the 225 lb unit off
> a work table when he was trying to move it to another location by himself.
>   The top part of the mixer broke off.  I cut the internal wiring to enable
> me to move the unit in two large pieces to my storage unit in hopes of
> eventually repairing the mixer.
>
> <01-cast_iron_repair_63(sm).jpg>  <02-cast_iron_repair_64(sm).jpg>
>
> If anybody at SH can help me with this repair project, I will be happy to 
> *fully
> reimburse them for all expendables* used in the repair.  I will also
> thank the person who helps me with the repair with *a full-course dinner,
> as a token reward,* at Macaroni Grill or Outback Steakhouse or House of
> Hunan.
>
> The repair project - cast iron repair and rewiring -  will be done at SH
> as one of my personal DIY projects.
>
> When repaired and functional again, I plan to donate the mixer to a local
> non-profit organization that provides monthly meals to the needy families
> and homeless people.
>
> In case you are wondering, the value of a similar, used, working mixer is
> about $1250.  A new one costs $1925 plus about $175 for freight shipping, a
> total of $2100.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help available, whether just technical advice or
> welding expertise or merely a suggestion.
>
> Philip
>
>
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Re: [SH-Discuss] cast iron repair

2013-12-30 Thread Martin Pinkston
Kent quick weld service could probably handle the welding but it would cost you 
some bucks.

The other option might be taking a close look into a Loctite product.
They have adhesives which when applied correctly, any failure will occur beyond 
the glued joint at the parent metal.
And if you are able to install a few  strategically located steel dowel pins, 
you may be able to minimize stress at the joint making a glued joint more 
practical.

Take Care & Have fun Always.
Martin Pinkston 

On Dec 30, 2013, at 13:10, "Philip P. Patnode"  wrote:

> Does anybody know how to repair broken cast iron?
> 
> Can cast iron be welded?
> 
> Can cast iron be repaired with an adhesive?
> 
> Details = 
> 
> I recently acquired a broken Thunderbird 20-qt commercial dough maker/mixer.  
> It is a table top appliance that is used in a commercial bakery to make dough 
> or mix large batches of bread dough or cake/cookie/pie dough.
> 
> 
> 
> The previous owner, a Certified Level 3 Moron, dropped the 225 lb unit off a 
> work table when he was trying to move it to another location by himself.   
> The top part of the mixer broke off.  I cut the internal wiring to enable me 
> to move the unit in two large pieces to my storage unit in hopes of 
> eventually repairing the mixer.  
> 
> <01-cast_iron_repair_63(sm).jpg>  <02-cast_iron_repair_64(sm).jpg>
> 
> If anybody at SH can help me with this repair project, I will be happy to 
> fully reimburse them for all expendables used in the repair.  I will also 
> thank the person who helps me with the repair with a full-course dinner, as a 
> token reward, at Macaroni Grill or Outback Steakhouse or House of Hunan.  
> 
> The repair project - cast iron repair and rewiring -  will be done at SH as 
> one of my personal DIY projects.
> 
> When repaired and functional again, I plan to donate the mixer to a local 
> non-profit organization that provides monthly meals to the needy families and 
> homeless people.
> 
> In case you are wondering, the value of a similar, used, working mixer is 
> about $1250.  A new one costs $1925 plus about $175 for freight shipping, a 
> total of $2100.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help available, whether just technical advice or 
> welding expertise or merely a suggestion.
> 
> Philip
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Re: [SH-Discuss] cast iron repair

2013-12-30 Thread Philip P. Patnode
Devin,

Thanks for your prompt reply.

Welding the broken pieces will be Plan B.

You can have a shot at it, if I must get it welded.  Success will earn you
a steak dinner (or whatever your brain demands as food).  Failure will
require re-education and discipline in the form of 20 lashes out in the
parking lot.

I have contacted the manufacturer (Thunderbird) and inquired about buying a
new, or used, or second grade blank housing to use in the refurb/repair
project.

Would much rather use a whole, undamaged housing instead of one repaired
with a weld or glue.

When I get a reply from the CSR at T'bird, I will let you know the status
of the project.

I would like to move the item to SH at the Summit St address to work on it.


When can I do that?

Philip
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