[Discuss-gnuradio] Benchmark_tx packet's header

2010-02-01 Thread abbasi9999

Does any body have an idea  about  construction of the Benchmark_tx packet.
Because when i transmit big files it takes long time to  be received on the
other computer.
Furthermore, I want to create a header  for my own protocol.
So any body have an idea about the GnuRadio packet's header?

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Fwd: article: No-knob radio: the futureof Warfighter communications?

2010-02-01 Thread andrew.rf.back
On (09:09 01/02/10), Dimitrios Symeonidis wrote:
 Does GPLv3 ensure that they'll release the code?

It never ensures this. It requires them as a licensee to make offer to
provide the source to those who they provide object code to, who in turn are
free to pass this on to whomever they please. However, this distribution
could still be limited to a group from which the wider community is excluded.

Alternatively, if they do not distribute object code (they take it from
the GR community and use internally) they do not need to make any offer to
provide source to anyone. As, I am led to believe, is the case with certain
large SaaS providers who use GPL code extensively, modify it, and use it in
a way that is not considered re-distribution.

Disclaimer: IANAL, the above is not legal advice and is purely personal
opinion.

Regards,

Andrew
 
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 a mosquito! - Amnesty International
 
 
 
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  On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:47, Ken N9VV n...@wowway.com wrote:
 
  Congratulations to the GNU developers !!
 
  Thanks.
 
  This URL has the (same) story on the Army lab's website, which also
  allows comments:
 
  http://armytechnology.armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/2010/01/27/
 no-knob-radio-future-warfighter-communications/
 
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[Discuss-gnuradio] problem in executing benchmark_tx.py

2010-02-01 Thread ashwini
Hi,

I am trying to run benchmark_tx.py with USRP1 from one PC, and receiving data 
with another USRP1 from another PC, with this some .dat files are getting 
generated with some junk data. 
My approach:
At TX PC:  ./benchmark_tx.py --modulation=gmsk --size=1500 --megabytes=1.0 
--from-file=payload.dat --freq=423e6 --bitrate=50 --tx-subdev-spec=A 
--tx-amplitude=12000

At RX PC:  ./benchmark_rx.py --modulation=gmsk --freq=423e6 --bitrate=50 
--rx-subdev-spec=A

Can anyone tell me what is wrong in my approach, (why junk data is getting 
written) and how to resolve this issue.

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[Discuss-gnuradio] problem in executing benchmark_tx.py

2010-02-01 Thread ashwini
Hi,

I am trying to run benchmark_tx.py with USRP1 from one PC, and receiving data 
with another USRP1 from another PC, with this some .dat files are getting 
generated with some junk data. 
My approach:
At TX PC:  ./benchmark_tx.py --modulation=gmsk --size=1500 --megabytes=1.0 
--from-file=payload.dat --freq=423e6 --bitrate=50 --tx-subdev-spec=A 
--tx-amplitude=12000

At RX PC:  ./benchmark_rx.py --modulation=gmsk --freq=423e6 --bitrate=50 
--rx-subdev-spec=A

Can anyone tell me what is wrong in my approach, (why junk data is getting 
written) and how to resolve this issue.

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Install gnu radio on to ubuntu linux 9.04 (Jaunty)

2010-02-01 Thread Makmur Hidayat
Thank you Pascal, I configured proxy setting, and then downloading
successfully without error anymore.

Thanks
Makmur

2010/1/29 Pascal Charest c.lac...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Makmur Hidayat makm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  This is the errors:
 
  W: Failed to fetch
  http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release.gpg  Could not
  connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com:80 
  http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/(91.189.88.46), connection timed out
  [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]

 Proxy? Are you behind a firewall that uses a web proxy? If so:

 System - Network proxy - Manual proxy configuration - (your settings)
 Apply System-Wide
 Restart Synaptic (and reload)

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Install gnu radio on to ubuntu linux 9.04 (Jaunty)

2010-02-01 Thread Makmur Hidayat
Thank you Johnathan, I finished installation and I found the binary packages
in the folder as you mentioned.

Thanks
Makmur

2010/1/26 Johnathan Corgan jcor...@corganenterprises.com

 On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 20:48, Makmur Hidayat makm...@gmail.com wrote:

  As far as I know that after installation then the package installed can
 be
  found in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages. But after I checked, the
  folder is empty.

 The usual place for binary packages is in /usr, not /usr/local, so
 you'll find the installed binaries in /usr/lib, Python files in
 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages, and examples in /usr/share/gnuradio.

 Johnathan

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Soft-DVB has a Brother. A Receiving Brother. And Fast...

2010-02-01 Thread Vincenzo Pellegrini
Hi Per,
carrier freq is 809.5 MHz (one of the Australian DVB-T center freqs in UHF)

Phase and frequency responses are compensated by applying estimations done
based on the (many) DVB-T OFDM pilot carriers. We do not average channel
estimates to remove noise, still we get very clean constellation when doing
lab tests.
As well as useful constellations with SNR being around 12 dB.

regards

vincenzo



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 Vincenzo Pellegrini wrote:

 SR-DVB demo video on youtube

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5nGBDCxhmk

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 Nice.

 I am curious. What is the carrier frequency ?

 Do you do anything to combat phase-noise ?

 BR/
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] problem in executing benchmark_tx.py

2010-02-01 Thread Jason Uher
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:22 AM, ashwini ashw...@adtl.co.in wrote:
 Can anyone tell me what is wrong in my approach, (why junk data is getting
 written) and how to resolve this issue.


We need more information on your set up to get an idea of what might
be going wrong (http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/gnuradio/ReportingErrors).
 For example, what do you mean by 'junk data being written'? The
benchmark files don't really write any data, they simply check if the
frames were received correctly and erase them.  Even if you use the
--log option I think you will only get the demodulated bits back in a
binary fashion, not a direct copy of 'payload.dat', but you aren't
even doing that according to your commands.

I would spend some time looking through the appropriate files to
understand what the receiver is doing so you can find out where to
appropriately save your file to disk:
http://gnuradio.org/redmine/repositories/changes/gnuradio/gnuradio-examples/python/digital/benchmark_rx.py
http://gnuradio.org/redmine/repositories/changes/gnuradio/gnuradio-examples/python/digital/usrp_receive_path.py
http://gnuradio.org/redmine/repositories/entry/gnuradio/gnuradio-core/src/python/gnuradio/blks2impl/gmsk.py

The logging is done in the modulation specific files (gmsk.py), so you
don't really have anything like framing or symbol-bit conversion done
yet, you will probably have to add a file sink later in the chain to
get the final data out (maybe there is an existing option for this?).

Jason


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] How to implement 64QAM?

2010-02-01 Thread idg101

Hi,
  I haven't looked at any of the QAM-related code in the GNU Radio baseline,
but it should be possible to design a generic MQAM demodulator.  

In fact, you should be able to build a generic MQAM demodulator for a given
constellation set.  This, I've done before in Matlab.  You start with an
AGC, feed through an equalizer which is optimized for minimizing the phase
error between recovered and truth symbols.  Another way to look at it that
for each symbol, find the symbol that matches closest to the constellation
vector (thats your decode symbol) and then feed the error into the
equalizer.  

I believe there is a way to form a generic carrier recovery and symbol
recovery loops that can deal with generic MPSK style constellation of which
MQAM is a part of.  In fact, you could write a routine that can do anything
from BPSK to 64QAM.

my 2 cents,
Isaac


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[Discuss-gnuradio] Usrp2 synchronize

2010-02-01 Thread Gaetano Mendola
Hi all,
we are using two USRP2 devices to build a CDMA communication channel,
at the moment the big issuewe are facing is the  error frequency introduced
coupling two (TX and RX) USRP2 devices.

In order to reduce the frequency error we are using an external 10Mhz
reference and we are planning to use
also a PPS source. Can you suggest any out of shelf device able to
give use both 10MHz and the PPS needed ?


Regards
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[Discuss-gnuradio] putchar function

2010-02-01 Thread Christoph Thein
Hi,

I am trying to figure out how it is possible to get more than the U message 
from the USRP2 to the host via the UART port but I am stucked at some point. 
When I try to transmit other characters than U I am receiving something 
completely unpredictable (at least it looks like that to me at the moment). I 
am using the putchar-function in the txrx.c file in the firmware/apps directory 
with the gnuradio version 3.3git-601-g18578e23 . 

I dug deeper into the code and tried the hal_uart_putc function also but with 
no results. 

Does anyone have an idea how to achieve a working signaling throught the UART 
port? 

Thanks a lot,

Cheers,

Christoph


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[Discuss-gnuradio] D8PSK Receiver with USRP1s

2010-02-01 Thread Smith L.

Hi all,

I am using benchmark_tx.py and benchmark_rx.py with USRP1. I am using d8psk
as the modulation scheme. Initially I was not able to receive any packets.
So I looked up the mailing list and found a patch for gr_mpsk_receiver_cc.cc
and some information about the parameters --costas and --gain-mu. I made
those changes and ran the above program again and was able to receive all
the packets but none of them were decoded correctly. I have tried it many
times using different data rates. I am using the latest GNURadio revision
fcf9efa7. I would appreciate if someone who has been able to receive the
packets correctly using d8psk can help me.

I was also wondering when the demodulation block for qam would be added to
the GNURadio revision.

Thanks,
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] mac leopard install problem

2010-02-01 Thread Michael Dickens

On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Clark Pope wrote:
Didn't realize they cared as long as you purchase the OS. Guess I'll  
try dual boot instead, but I doubt that's this particular problem.  
Everything else seems to run okay.


I'm not saying they do care; my bet is that so long as you own a  
variety of Apple products, the license is honest (enough),  you don't  
go around flaunting what you've done, they probably won't care.  That  
said, postings to public forums last forever, so just be careful ...  
that's all I'm saying.



1) The MacPorts install of GNU Radio has been messed up for a long
time, and may or not work depending on many factors. I've submitted
fixes and updates multiple times, but they have yet to be integrated;
I've applied to be a MacPorts developer  maintainer of the GNU Radio
ports, but I have yet to hear even a peep back from them.


I finally received word just now that I'll be approved shortly as a  
MacPorts developer; yay!  Once I'm approved, I'll update the MacPorts  
portfiles for GNU Radio for the 3.2.2 release tarball.  I'll see if I  
can get additional 'gnuradio-devel' portfiles made for the GIT master;  
I think they allow for this option.  More when I have it in place.


yeah it seems to expect a shell script called libtool there. I'll  
keep digging.


Did you have any luck? - MLD



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[Discuss-gnuradio] Problems with scope sink

2010-02-01 Thread Jason Uher
Using the latest git checkout of gnuradio (and an older svn one, not
sure of the rev #), the scope sink will only show a single channel of
input.

If I use the float sink, only the first channel show up.  If I use the
complex sink, only the real part of the first channel shows up.  I
have verified that the same version works under an ubuntu install,
running usrp_oscope.py works fine there, but not on my osx install.
I'm not sure about gl vs wx vs qt sinks, or how to verify which one is
being used, so that may be an issue.

Is anyone else having this problem and is there a fix for it?

Thanks,

Jason

(OSX 10.5.8, built from latest git source, pre-requisites installed
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] mac leopard install problem

2010-02-01 Thread Charles Brown


On Feb 1, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Michael Dickens wrote:


On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:10 AM, Clark Pope wrote:
Didn't realize they cared as long as you purchase the OS. Guess  
I'll try dual boot instead, but I doubt that's this particular  
problem. Everything else seems to run okay.


I'm not saying they do care; my bet is that so long as you own a  
variety of Apple products, the license is honest (enough),  you  
don't go around flaunting what you've done, they probably won't  
care.  That said, postings to public forums last forever, so just be  
careful ... that's all I'm saying.



1) The MacPorts install of GNU Radio has been messed up for a long
time, and may or not work depending on many factors. I've submitted
fixes and updates multiple times, but they have yet to be  
integrated;
I've applied to be a MacPorts developer  maintainer of the GNU  
Radio

ports, but I have yet to hear even a peep back from them.


I finally received word just now that I'll be approved shortly as a  
MacPorts developer; yay!  Once I'm approved, I'll update the  
MacPorts portfiles for GNU Radio for the 3.2.2 release tarball.   
I'll see if I can get additional 'gnuradio-devel' portfiles made for  
the GIT master; I think they allow for this option.  More when I  
have it in place.


That's great news!

I am new to the hands-on portion of the project but prefer to use  
Mac equipment since I have a couple of Mac mini's laying around and am  
not a developer.


Will you be doing any testing?  I would be glad to lend assistance if  
I can.


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Soft-DVB has a Brother. A Receiving, Brother. And Fast...

2010-02-01 Thread Achilleas Anastasopoulos

Vincenzo,

this seems very impressive!

May I ask what the initials NA stand for?

best,
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] mac leopard install problem

2010-02-01 Thread Michael Dickens

On Feb 1, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
I finally received word just now that I'll be approved shortly as a  
MacPorts developer; yay!  Once I'm approved, I'll update the  
MacPorts portfiles for GNU Radio for the 3.2.2 release tarball.   
I'll see if I can get additional 'gnuradio-devel' portfiles made  
for the GIT master; I think they allow for this option.  More when  
I have it in place.


Will you be doing any testing?  I would be glad to lend assistance  
if I can.



Hi Charles - When I get far enough along, I'll put together a how to  
 tarball for those interested  you can try it out.  MacPorts allows  
you to use local Portfiles to do installs; you do have to be careful,  
but they work for testing purposes quite well so long as you remove  
them after testing.  I'll post details once I get there.  Thanks for  
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Usrp2 synchronize

2010-02-01 Thread Matt Ettus

On 02/01/2010 07:37 AM, Gaetano Mendola wrote:

Hi all,
we are using two USRP2 devices to build a CDMA communication channel,
at the moment the big issuewe are facing is the  error frequency introduced
coupling two (TX and RX) USRP2 devices.

In order to reduce the frequency error we are using an external 10Mhz
reference and we are planning to use
also a PPS source. Can you suggest any out of shelf device able to
give use both 10MHz and the PPS needed ?


Regards
Gaetano Mendola




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[Discuss-gnuradio] What kind of frequency hop rate is achievable with the RFX Boards?

2010-02-01 Thread wbahn
We have been requested to provide some signals for another  
organization to detect and analyze. We don't have to receive anything  
and so it is perfectly acceptable to pregenerate the outgoing waveform  
and just play it back over the air.


Here are a couple of the requests that, hopefully, are within the  
capabilities of the USRP with the RFX2450 daughterboard.


===
Request #1:

Frequency Hopped Spread Spectrum in the 5.8GHz ISM band. They want a  
data rate of at least 500kbps and want 9 channels in the hopping  
sequence with a channel separation of at least 16MHz.


The issue I see here is that each hop will require a retuning of the  
daughterboard's center frequency. How long does it take the USRP to  
retune?


One thought I had was to use two daughterboards and ping pong back and  
forth between them. While one is transmitting the other can be tuning  
to the next hop. Does this sound feasible? How quickly can the  
transmit signal be switched from one daughterboard to the other?


===
Request #2:

5.8GHz COTS WiMAX link at a data rate of 1Mbps.

Is this doable with the USRP? Again, all I need to do is transmit a  
realistic signal. I don't need to receive anything.


===

TIA!


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Usrp2 synchronize

2010-02-01 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 02/01/2010 04:39 PM, Matt Ettus wrote:
 On 02/01/2010 07:37 AM, Gaetano Mendola wrote:
 Hi all,
 we are using two USRP2 devices to build a CDMA communication channel,
 at the moment the big issuewe are facing is the  error frequency
 introduced
 coupling two (TX and RX) USRP2 devices.

 In order to reduce the frequency error we are using an external 10Mhz
 reference and we are planning to use
 also a PPS source. Can you suggest any out of shelf device able to
 give use both 10MHz and the PPS needed ?


 Regards
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] putchar function

2010-02-01 Thread Eric Blossom
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 05:57:04PM +0100, Christoph Thein wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am trying to figure out how it is possible to get more than the U message 
 from the USRP2 to the host via the UART port but I am stucked at some point. 
 When I try to transmit other characters than U I am receiving something 
 completely unpredictable (at least it looks like that to me at the moment). I 
 am using the putchar-function in the txrx.c file in the firmware/apps 
 directory 
 with the gnuradio version 3.3git-601-g18578e23 . 
 
 I dug deeper into the code and tried the hal_uart_putc function also but with 
 no results. 
 
 Does anyone have an idea how to achieve a working signaling throught the UART 
 port? 
 
 Thanks a lot,
 Cheers,
 Christoph

Christoph,

It's just about impossible to get anything more than a few characters
out in the hard real-time part of the code (pretty much everything
after start-up), without causing a problem.  This is because we don't
have infinite buffering, and eventually the code calling the uart
output primitive blocks, causing all kinds of bad things to happen.
You could make the uart output code interrupt driven, but in general,
that will only buy you another 128 bytes or so (whatever memory you're
willing to dedicate to the buffer) before the problem occurs.

If you've got a logic analyzer to grab the data, and the ISE tools,
it's not too hard to add an additional setting register that when
written to, will end up on the mictor debug connector on the
motherboard, or on the GPIO pins of a Tx or Rx Basic/LF daughterboard.
(In lib/memory_map.h add an entry to output_regs_t, and add the
setting register itself in fpga/top/u2_core/u2_core.v).

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Benchmark_tx packet's header

2010-02-01 Thread Eric Blossom
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 02:36:22AM -0800, abbasi wrote:
 
 Does any body have an idea  about  construction of the Benchmark_tx packet.

Yes.

 Because when i transmit big files it takes long time to  be received on the
 other computer.

OK.

 Furthermore, I want to create a header  for my own protocol.

OK.

 So any body have an idea about the GnuRadio packet's header?

Yes.

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Usrp2 synchronize

2010-02-01 Thread Josh Blum

http://www.trimble.com/timing/thunderbolt-e.aspx?dtID=overview

On 02/01/2010 07:37 AM, Gaetano Mendola wrote:

Hi all,
we are using two USRP2 devices to build a CDMA communication channel,
at the moment the big issuewe are facing is the  error frequency introduced
coupling two (TX and RX) USRP2 devices.

In order to reduce the frequency error we are using an external 10Mhz
reference and we are planning to use
also a PPS source. Can you suggest any out of shelf device able to
give use both 10MHz and the PPS needed ?


Regards
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RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] Unable to tune Tx or Rx with XCVR2450 on USRP2

2010-02-01 Thread Ian Holland
Thanks Josh

I can now confirm that it is definitely failing to lock. I have noticed
on some rare occasions that it actually does lock. However, as soon as
the USRP2 is power-cycled it goes back to the default behaviour of being
unable to lock.

What can be done to make sure that it will lock? Is this likely to be a
hardware issue specific to our daughtercards, or is there something else
we can do in software to get around it?

Thanks

Ian.

It could be failing to lock. You may want to watch the debug port on
the 
usrp2. If the lock detect is failing, it will print out on the serial 
console. attach a 3.3v level serial port

On 01/28/2010 10:09 PM, Ian Holland wrote:
 Hi Josh

 The xcvr has a high band and a low band, which means there is a gap
in
 the tunable frequency range for the xcvr. Therefore, the
 auto-calculated mid-point frequency is an invalid frequency for the
 xcvr. Pick a frequency in the high band or low band range:

 #define LB_FREQ_MIN U2_DOUBLE_TO_FXPT_FREQ(2.3e9)
 #define LB_FREQ_MAX U2_DOUBLE_TO_FXPT_FREQ(2.6e9)
 #define HB_FREQ_MIN U2_DOUBLE_TO_FXPT_FREQ(4.8e9)
 #define HB_FREQ_MAX U2_DOUBLE_TO_FXPT_FREQ(6.1e9)

 Thanks - I will keep that in mind when using usrp_siggen.py in future.

 However, I have tried 2.4G with the source code from my original post
 (relevant code snippet for Tx tuning just below this paragraph, for
 which successTx is 0 and all frequency properties in TxTuneResult are
 0), and also with usrp2_fft.py -f 2.4G, after burning the latest
images.
 I still face the same problem that neither the Tx nor the Rx will
tune.

 /* try tuning Tx to a test frequency */
 double Fc = 24.0;
 usrp2::tune_result TxTuneResult;
 bool successTx = device-set_tx_center_freq(Fc,TxTuneResult);


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Usrp2 synchronize

2010-02-01 Thread Firas Abbas
Hi,


 From: Matt Ettus m...@ettus.com

 
 
 Jackson Labs Firefly:
 
 http://jackson-labs.com/
 
 Matt


Just an idea, if this device is recommended by you, can you offer it (with 
cables and other needed staff)  as a synchronization tool kit in Ettus sales so 
it will be a one stop shop ?

Best regards,

Firas



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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] putchar function

2010-02-01 Thread Christoph Thein

 On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 05:57:04PM +0100, Christoph Thein wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am trying to figure out how it is possible to get more than the U
  message from the USRP2 to the host via the UART port but I am stucked at
  some point. When I try to transmit other characters than U I am
  receiving something completely unpredictable (at least it looks like that
  to me at the moment). I am using the putchar-function in the txrx.c file
  in the firmware/apps directory with the gnuradio version
  3.3git-601-g18578e23 .
 
  I dug deeper into the code and tried the hal_uart_putc function also but
  with no results.
 
  Does anyone have an idea how to achieve a working signaling throught the
  UART port?
 
  Thanks a lot,
  Cheers,
  Christoph
 
 Christoph,
 
 It's just about impossible to get anything more than a few characters
 out in the hard real-time part of the code (pretty much everything
 after start-up), without causing a problem.  This is because we don't
 have infinite buffering, and eventually the code calling the uart
 output primitive blocks, causing all kinds of bad things to happen.
 You could make the uart output code interrupt driven, but in general,
 that will only buy you another 128 bytes or so (whatever memory you're
 willing to dedicate to the buffer) before the problem occurs.
 
 If you've got a logic analyzer to grab the data, and the ISE tools,
 it's not too hard to add an additional setting register that when
 written to, will end up on the mictor debug connector on the
 motherboard, or on the GPIO pins of a Tx or Rx Basic/LF daughterboard.
 (In lib/memory_map.h add an entry to output_regs_t, and add the
 setting register itself in fpga/top/u2_core/u2_core.v).
 
 Eric
 


Hi Eric,

thanks! 
I just want to get a 16 bit value to the host, so basically only a few 
characters. 

BR
Christoph



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